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Minnesotans prepare for possible shootings
grandforksherald.com ^ | 14 December, 2012 | Don Davis

Posted on 12/15/2012 6:45:18 AM PST by marktwain

ST. PAUL -- Minnesota officials say they have tried to prepare for school shootings like one Friday in Connecticut, but there always is more they can do.

“We need to collaboratively do a better job of securing those kids,” said state Sen. Bill Ingebrigtsen, R-Alexandria, a law enforcement officer for 34 years, 16 as Douglas County sheriff.

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“We’re going to have to have some people who are armed in our schools,” Ingebrigtsen said. “As sad as that can be, and I think (former Gov.) Jesse Ventura brought it up, maybe some of these teachers are going to have to have guns.”

Ingebrigtsen said he fears the Connecticut shooting will bring more calls for gun restrictions.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: armedteachers; banglist; guncontrol; mn; school; secondamendment
A courageous state senator in Minnesota.
1 posted on 12/15/2012 6:45:23 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

kudos for recognizing the subject that should be the national discussion, how to keep the kids safe.


2 posted on 12/15/2012 6:47:43 AM PST by Kenny (<p)
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To: marktwain

School shootings are part of the Obama program, and will likely increase exponentially.


3 posted on 12/15/2012 6:51:19 AM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: marktwain
“We’re going to have to have some people who are armed in our schools,”

Hello!!!!!

4 posted on 12/15/2012 6:51:45 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: marktwain

Here`s a letter I sent to Gov. of NY:
Dear Governor Cuomo: if you really want to do something about school safety, then contact Oakland School district, California- They had gun gang trouble in their classrooms/campuses early 1980`s and they stopped it fast. They have metal detectors, armed police and armed personnel including armed teachers on a their school campuses.It works- Wise up and call them. It`s called CRIME PREVENTION- have you ever heard of it? Have you ever hear of DEFENSE? It`s on every Sunday with the JETs.It works- Defend the schools with arms- Most big corporations and big movie stars and even the Pope have armed guards, why not the schools- The Israeli`s have armed parents at all their schools- Why not here/ Wise up—There are millions of dollars in Homeland Security grants- go get it-Oakland schools have been pretty safe for 30 year in spite of having the worst gang violence in the country -well DUHHHHH~~s. Put some of that Homeland Security money into securing homeland Schools in NY and then you will be using your brain not your emotion. Be practical. Defend the schools with guards with guns and no one with guns will ever dare to tread on you there-guaranteed. Please do this instead of treading on our Constitutional rights. Use your brain. If Oakland did it, what in tarnation is stopping NY from implementing a solution that actually works for 30 years- Gimme a break- any NY or Oakland 6th grader could figure this one out -Where`s your common sense- give Oakland schools a call and talk to them- I double-dare you- maybe you will be EDUCATED! Awaiting the results of your Oakland ohone call-Best regards,


5 posted on 12/15/2012 6:52:57 AM PST by bunkerhill7
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To: marktwain
“We’re going to have to have some people who are armed in our schools,” Ingebrigtsen said. “As sad as that can be, and I think (former Gov.) Jesse Ventura brought it up, maybe some of these teachers are going to have to have guns.”

Maybe they should make gun ownership and four or more years of shooting experience a condition of employment. Teachers should be required to take Military Science (ROTC) for two years in college, along with one credit per semester for four years in shooting. Those courses would be much more valuable than most of the liberal tripe that teachers are required to take.

6 posted on 12/15/2012 7:00:58 AM PST by ConservativeInPA (It is impossible to have a good faith negotiations with terrorists or any Muslim.)
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To: marktwain
"“We’re going to have to have some people who are armed in our schools,” Ingebrigtsen said. “As sad as that can be, and I think (former Gov.) Jesse Ventura brought it up, maybe some of these teachers are going to have to have guns.”

As looney as Jesse Ventura is wont to be, he has moments of occasional brilliance, QED.

Good to see someone (besides the Israelis) is thinking clearly about guns in schools.
7 posted on 12/15/2012 7:01:56 AM PST by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: marktwain

Sounds like a good idea. The reason I like concealed carry over open carry is that you never know who’s carrying.


8 posted on 12/15/2012 7:03:57 AM PST by stevio (God, guns, guts.)
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To: marktwain
“We’re going to have to have some people who are armed in our schools,” Ingebrigtsen said. “As sad as that can be, and I think (former Gov.) Jesse Ventura brought it up, maybe some of these teachers are going to have to have guns.”

Bravo! Yes, it is a sad state of affairs that people are sick enough and evil enough to want to harm children. Arming teachers and/or staff is probably the most cost-effective way to provide protection. It is simply impractical to turn our schools into sealed encampments, and counter-productive to their education mission.

Having people on-site trained and equipped to deal with the evil and insane is probably the best way to go. It bears researching, and there won't be a one-size-fits-all solution. But the discussion of options for keeping kids safe should include armed active solutions not just passive defenseless ones.

9 posted on 12/15/2012 7:07:21 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Hardraade

DING, DING, DING! We have a winner

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10 posted on 12/15/2012 7:08:51 AM PST by carriage_hill (Don't whiz on the electric fence. Awwwww-yeah!)
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To: marktwain

I grew up in Michigan gun country and there has never been a shooting at my old alma mater (Or any of the other half dozen school districts in this county)


11 posted on 12/15/2012 7:13:10 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: marktwain

The school recently spent roughly $50,000 for a fancy security system to automatically lock doors at a certain time each day so that only those with id can get inside. If they had put a tenth of that into buying three shotguns and training people how to use them, and publicized it, I sincerely doubt this maniac would have picked that school to go out with a bang at.

Or maybe it’s just a coincidence that these suicidal murderers happen to go to gun free zones rather than take on their local police station.


12 posted on 12/15/2012 7:19:33 AM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: marktwain
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13 posted on 12/15/2012 7:20:22 AM PST by MtnMan101
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To: Hardraade

Careful ... you’ll be labeled a kook with that kind of statement


14 posted on 12/15/2012 7:25:19 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: cripplecreek

“I grew up in Michigan gun country and there has never been a shooting at my old alma mater (Or any of the other half dozen school districts in this county)”
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When I was a schoolboy we all carried pocketknives, some of the girls did too. I can still remember my fourth grade teacher asking to borrow a pocketknife from one of us to open a package but I don’t recall a single time that anyone was attacked with a knife. People often drove onto the school grounds with a rifle or shotgun clearly visible in a rear window mount in a pickup truck but no one was ever shot. I am sure that many of the teachers had loaded guns in their cars parked on school grounds. Anyone who would have tried to come and start shooting would have been at risk from WWII and or Korean war veterans in their twenties, thirties or forties who worked as teachers or in other jobs around the school, not to mention that most of the non vets could shoot the eyes out of a squirrel at a hundred feet with open sights. Not exactly a soft target as compared to the situation today.


15 posted on 12/15/2012 8:32:18 AM PST by RipSawyer (I was born on Earth, what planet is this?)
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To: kingu

Yeah, it makes me wonder why someone who intends to shoot himself after wreaking havoc doesn’t just go and attack a police station or a fire house or a bunch of people at a gun range. Are they afraid someone will disable them before they can commit suicide?


16 posted on 12/15/2012 8:36:32 AM PST by RipSawyer (I was born on Earth, what planet is this?)
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To: marktwain

I will be contacting his office on Monday to see what I could do to help.

He’s from a different District, but my Reps are from one of the most Conservative Districts in MN...


17 posted on 12/15/2012 8:42:58 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: RipSawyer
When I was a schoolboy we all carried pocketknives...

In my youth we brought our .22 rifles to school on Mondays because we used the range in the school basement for target practice (under adult supervision of course). Try that today and get swarmed by the local SWAT team.

Regards,
GtG

PS In high school shop class I refinished the stock on my .22 auto loader.

18 posted on 12/15/2012 1:10:49 PM PST by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray
In my youth we brought our .22 rifles to school on Mondays

We never took weapons into school, but during dove season those of us old enough to drive had a shotgun, or three (ours and two friends) in our truck, and in the dead of winter we had a .22 for running trap lines before and after school.

19 posted on 12/15/2012 1:20:42 PM PST by Pilsner
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To: ConservativeInPA
Maybe they should make gun ownership and four or more years of shooting experience a condition of employment. Teachers should be required to take Military Science (ROTC) for two years in college, along with one credit per semester for four years in shooting. Those courses would be much more valuable than most of the liberal tripe that teachers are required to take.

Good start, I would add - Must Range qualify each Quarter.

20 posted on 12/15/2012 8:07:52 PM PST by Petruchio (I Think . . . Therefor I FReep.)
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