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Gunman's mother owned weapons used in Connecticut school massacre
NBC ^ | Dec 15 2012 | Pete Williams and Kari Huus

Posted on 12/15/2012 9:07:22 AM PST by WilliamIII

The weapons used in Friday’s shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., were legally purchased and registered to Nancy Lanza, the mother of the gunman, Adam Lanza, two law enforcement officials told NBC News.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: banglist; nancylanza; sandyhook; sandyhookmother; sandyhookshooting; sandyhookweapons

1 posted on 12/15/2012 9:07:25 AM PST by WilliamIII
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To: WilliamIII

This obviously proves that we need more gun laws, right?

How about a law against GUN FREE ZONES and allowing citizens to carry concealed EVERYWHERE.

You never hear about any “massacres” at gun stores or ranges, do you?


2 posted on 12/15/2012 9:13:26 AM PST by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: WilliamIII
That's it! We need to pass a law prohibiting mothers from owning guns!

I really don't need a sarc tag, do I?

3 posted on 12/15/2012 9:15:53 AM PST by COBOL2Java (GOPe: Already prepping for their 2016 loss - Jeb Bush!)
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To: WilliamIII
the AR too? did she buy it for her son???
4 posted on 12/15/2012 9:16:22 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: 43north
You never hear about any “massacres” at gun stores or ranges, do you?

There was a pubic school graduate that shot a clerk at a gun store in Indianapolis a while back. He was room temperature when he left the store.

5 posted on 12/15/2012 9:16:28 AM PST by IamConservative (The soul of my lifes journey is Liberty!)
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To: WilliamIII

Well, it’s OBVIOUS to all that MOTHERS should be banned! Let the Government raise your children, cradle to grave, and this kind of stuff wouldn’t be happening! *SMIRK*


6 posted on 12/15/2012 9:18:27 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: COBOL2Java

Another mass murder enabled by the Democrat Party/Liberals/RINO’s via making sure no potential victim has means of defense.

So when a nut case with whatever weapon attacks, the nut case is free to kill until the bullets run out.

All authors of gun-bans should be charged with murder anytime a “gun free zone” or related is the site of a mass killing.

And in other news, the Governments, starting with NYC’s Bloomberg should disarm all cops and politician’s body guards, to unilaterally set a good example. After all, we all KNOW that if the law abiding (I’m being very, very generous and perhaps delusional to include the political class in that category) disarms, the nut cases and criminals will be inspired do also disarm.

Right?
Right?
(Standing O from Democrat voters....)


7 posted on 12/15/2012 9:22:56 AM PST by OldArmy52 (The question is not whether Obama ever lies, but whether he ever tells the truth.)
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To: WilliamIII

It’s likely the guns were community property at stake in the divorce.

If so, the divorce might have been messy, as lawyers know men are HIGHLY emotional about guns.

The wife getting something so personal and male suggests to me that her lawyer was very aggressive about, “sticking it to him”.


8 posted on 12/15/2012 9:24:17 AM PST by gaijin
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To: WilliamIII
They don't have mass shootings in Israel, because EVERYBODY is armed, and they have no "gun free" zones.

And Israel has more would-be terrorists per square block than any other place on earth.

9 posted on 12/15/2012 9:25:39 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the state." - Cornelius Tacitus, Roman Senator)
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To: WilliamIII

So he stole the guns from his mother......he broke the law and illegally obtained guns to commit the murders.....yep more gun control would have solved that.


10 posted on 12/15/2012 9:26:43 AM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: WilliamIII

Just wait and see, all the liberals are going to make such an emotional issue of this event, lead by Comrade O’bummer, Nancy Polecat and Harry Inbreed that they will try to pass a law making all guns illegal, just like in Europe.
I think this was a copy-cat shooting following the mall-shooting outside Portland Oregon. The young thug tried to do it better.


11 posted on 12/15/2012 9:27:46 AM PST by Vinylly
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To: 43north

Actually suicide rates at gun ranges are high. Lots of ranges won’t rent a gun to a single person who they don’t know.


12 posted on 12/15/2012 9:29:47 AM PST by Blackirish (Forward Comrades!!!!!!!!!)
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To: WilliamIII

Our SeeBS channel out of Birmingham has been running SeeBS news continuously with this only. It is sickening how they are running this event. I doubt seriously we will see a breaking headline out of them that the guns were legally purchased. This is the FOLLY of gun control. The bad guys have guns. They are NOT going to turn them in. Regardless of how they got them. Most probably illegally, stolen, etc. All you have to do is what TV and COPS and see all the stolen guns they come up with on traffic stops. I agree that homeowners should lock up weapons, I do, just to prevent theft if we are gone. But, the bad guys will have guns and the cops will not have enough people to protect us. My cousin is the sheriff of this county. I live out in the county. He told me it would take THIRTY (30) minutes to get a car to me in an emergency, if one was not close by already. 30 MINUTES. I would be long dead if I were not armed. Simple. I am not giving up my guns.


13 posted on 12/15/2012 9:30:38 AM PST by RetiredArmy (1 Cor 15: 50-54 & 1 Thess 4: 13-17. That about covers it.)
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To: WilliamIII

And stored them in a manner that allowed her personality disordered son to have access to them. And thats being charitable,, my suspicion is that she was most likely a straw purchaser for him, and bought them for him because he was too young.


14 posted on 12/15/2012 9:31:53 AM PST by DesertRhino (ofx was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: WilliamIII
Meanwhile, in Israel a teacher escorts her class:

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Ever since teachers and older students were allowed to carry arms there has not been any school shootings there.

15 posted on 12/15/2012 9:32:24 AM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: WilliamIII
Where is the father in all this. Maybe divorce should be outlawed.
16 posted on 12/15/2012 9:35:01 AM PST by The Old Commander (Anyone who voted for Obama did so to steal from the productive class.)
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To: svcw

I wonder what was going on with the mother. As Charles Krauthammer expressed on Fox last night he must of had intense rage against how mom. He kills her first thing then goes kills her pupils and co workers. There had to be previous outbursts...
So why’d she leave all these guns around that he could get a hold of?
..


17 posted on 12/15/2012 9:35:57 AM PST by Blackirish (Forward Comrades!!!!!!!!!)
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To: SkyDancer

That looks like an M1 Carbine. I would have expected an M4 or maybe a Galil.

Perhaps the teachers get second hand weapons and the new stuff is reserved for active IDF.

Anyway, I had a couple of the Universal M1 Carbine knock offs, and they were accurate, reliable weapons.

Their overall quality was not the best, but they worked.


18 posted on 12/15/2012 9:42:44 AM PST by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was, as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: Blackirish

Actually, I’ve been active with guns for decades. I can’t think of a single case where a suicide was committed in a gun range. I know ranges are inquisitive about new shooters to their range and want to know if they know about safety etc. but I also haven’t seen anyone who’s willing to answer questions and fill out paperwork refused, either.

I’m not saying I don’t believe you - I just have not seen or heard of it until now. The only way I can see this being the case if the suicidee doesn’t own a gun and goes to a range to rent one to shoot. If I owned a weapon and wanted to off myself, I’d do it in the comfort of my home.


19 posted on 12/15/2012 9:44:28 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: MikeSteelBe

The M1 Carbine replaced the Garand for standard issue in WWII, particularly in the Pacific Front. I own 4 of them and they aren’t pea shooters, despite how they look.


20 posted on 12/15/2012 9:47:59 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

I’ve also read where the M1 Carbine was also intended as a replacement for the 1911A1 because it was cheaper to produce.


21 posted on 12/15/2012 9:51:10 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: The Old Commander
Where is the father in all this. Maybe divorce should be outlawed.

That is where we lost the moral battle.

22 posted on 12/15/2012 9:51:47 AM PST by aimhigh ( Guns do not kill people. Planned Parenthood kills people.)
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To: Blackirish

That is what I do not understand. She had a son who was old enough to be living on his own. She apparently had him living there because he was emotionally disturbed in some way and she wanted to baby him due to his problems.

So why leave guns unlocked with a troubled child in the home?


23 posted on 12/15/2012 9:57:17 AM PST by angry elephant (Endangered species in Seattle)
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To: Gaffer
I can’t think of a single case where a suicide was committed in a gun range.

Do a Google, news search for 'suicide" and 'shooting range'. I've read a dozen articles on them. Not uncommon.

24 posted on 12/15/2012 9:58:02 AM PST by aimhigh ( Guns do not kill people. Planned Parenthood kills people.)
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To: WilliamIII

No mention of the fact that he also stole her car, after killing her, to get to the school. Why is there no outrage and calling for “car control”?


25 posted on 12/15/2012 10:01:39 AM PST by Fireone (Impeach and imprison, NOW! Treason and murder are still crimes.)
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To: aimhigh

Okay...I believe you...I just said I’d never heard of it. And, in this day and age, I’d think the anti-gun media wouldn’t miss a chance to spread the news.


26 posted on 12/15/2012 10:02:35 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Fireone

Chinese guy enters school in gun free China a slices 22 children on the same day. If these nimrods want to talk lets talk the truth and come up with a solution instead of an agenda on the backs of our dead children, what do you say despicable political rat bastards?


27 posted on 12/15/2012 10:46:31 AM PST by ronnie raygun (bb)
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To: Gaffer

The M1 Carbine was issued to squad leaders and officers as a lighter weapon along with the M1911. Smaller and lighter weapons were necessary for leaders, tankers, airborne, vehicle drivers etc. If you have a M1 Carbine made by the Rock-Ola juke box company in excellent condition, they are rare and sought by collectors.


28 posted on 12/15/2012 10:46:36 AM PST by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: BerryDingle

They were also issued to Paratroopers. In both “War Baby and “War Baby comes home” you will see few pictures of Garands in the Pacific in the later war years - not just to officers and squad leaders.

The best M1 I have is a fully-correct Inland Paratrooper M1 seconded by a complete Winchester carbine with high-wood and I-hole stock. Both are top of the line...


29 posted on 12/15/2012 10:53:11 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: WilliamIII

Women in Switzerland. The second photo is traditionally dressed participants of the "Wyberschiesset" (women shooting contest).

30 posted on 12/15/2012 11:01:57 AM PST by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: IamConservative
There was a pubic school graduate that shot a clerk at a gun store in Indianapolis a while back

It's always sex with you people.

31 posted on 12/15/2012 11:18:19 AM PST by Oztrich Boy (By doubting we come to inquiry, and through inquiry we perceive truth. -; Peter Abelard)
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To: MikeSteelBe; SkyDancer; Gaffer
The M1 Carbine has been a very popular weapon in Israel since its founding. Although it never caught on, Israeli Military Industries (IMI) developed the Magal as a weapon for Israeli police which was chambered in .30 carbine, and used regular M1/M2 magazines:


32 posted on 12/15/2012 11:25:07 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: 43north
This obviously proves that we need more gun laws, right?

I expect we'll soon see a new federal law (among many new federal laws) that prohibit gun possession in any household where any resident has been prescribed any SSRI/ADD type psychotropic drug or any resident has been under psychiatric care. Meaning if your kid is taking Adderall or Ritalin, no guns will be allowed in your home. Won't be surprised to see it include any prior misdemeanor drug or DUI conviction. Gun control is coming folks. You can count on it. This isn't going to quietly disappear after a week like so many of the other mass shootings did. Twenty dead kindergartners a week before Christmas changes things.

33 posted on 12/15/2012 11:38:40 AM PST by Drew68
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To: 43north

Remember “The Great Gun Show Massacre”?

Me neither.


34 posted on 12/15/2012 11:45:06 AM PST by Chuckster (The longer I live the less I care about what you think.)
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To: Gaffer

You should pick up a Ruger Blackhawk in .30M1. Really fun and accurate.


35 posted on 12/15/2012 12:34:12 PM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to, otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: gaijin
The wife getting something so personal and male suggests to me that her lawyer was very aggressive about, “sticking it to him”.

How very misogynistic of you! I didn't know that firearms were "male". Tell that to mine!!!! You're an ass.

36 posted on 12/15/2012 12:34:32 PM PST by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: gaijin

The guns were in her name so she probably bought them herself. Some women can buy guns without help from men.


37 posted on 12/15/2012 12:43:25 PM PST by rabidralph
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To: angry elephant

It’s being reported that his brother said Adam was autistic. Another report claimed that the mother home schooled him for some of his high school years and also that the mother had retired in order to care for Adam

Many autistic people cannot live on their own.

It’s being reported that the parent’s divorce was amicable and that the mother was receiving close to 300K/year in alimony-a very generous sum.

My take is that the alimony payment was to take the place of the salary the mother gave up by retiring. It seems that the family was trying its best to take care of the son themselves rather than institutionalize him. If true, that’s noble, IMO.

Perhaps the mother’s interest in guns/shooting was because the son showed an interest in it and she was trying to do something with him that he liked. The father will shed light on this. Maybe he liked to shoot with his son when we came to visit him.

We’ll find out eventually. The father and probably brother know, but have no doubt been advised by lawyers not to say anything that would put themselves in jeopardy.


38 posted on 12/15/2012 1:13:54 PM PST by randita
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To: stuartcr

Will look it up. I have a Ruger Bisely Blackhawk in 45 Colt. It does well.


39 posted on 12/15/2012 1:14:03 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

The M1 Carbine was also Audie Murphy’s preferred weapon.


40 posted on 12/17/2012 6:34:49 AM PST by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was, as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: MikeSteelBe

Yes.....except for the time atop that burning tank spraying the Ma Deuce at the Germans


41 posted on 12/17/2012 8:49:39 AM PST by Gaffer
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