They hired school psychologists, and then added more!
But all their Vain Actions were those of Blind Fools.
THE Only reason for failure: removing prayer and God from their schools!
Posted on 12/15/2012 10:03:16 AM PST by xsrdx
The gunman in the Newtown massacre had an "altercation" with four staff members at Sandy Hook Elementary School the day before he killed 20 children, six adults and himself there, Connecticut and federal officials told NBC News Saturday.
Three of the four staff members were killed Friday in one of the worst school shootings in U.S. history. The fourth staff member was not at school that day and is being interviewed by federal and state investigators, NBC News’ Pete Williams said.
Two days before that, Adam Lanza, 20, went to a sporting goods store in Danbury, Conn., and tried to purchase a rifle, but was rebuffed because the state has a waiting period for gun sales, the officials said.
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What was the nature of the "altercation" the day prior?
I really look forward to knowing more about this. I’m wondering now if the personality disorder wasn’t Narcissism. Folks like that get absolutely outraged over any personal slight, from what I’ve seen. They have this “How dare you offend me, I will show you what happens when you offend ME...”
I’m very curious to know the nature of this “altercation” as well. Fortunately, the fourth person is still around to tell the tale. Smells like a motive.
There’s nothing worse than a person who bears a grudge.
And now we enter the phase known as “filling in the blanks” when we find out that it was some horrible “gun nut” that wanted to just take out a random school, but a known headcase that had contact with the school before, and committed a number of thefts and a murder in order to get to the point where he went on his spree.
Look at all the “laws” and people that failed to stop this. How would some more help?
that it was = that it wasn’t
Look which network gets that scoop, as a reward for being good little stenographers for the admin...
So they did not beef up security after the altercation ? Sounds like Benghazi.
> Narcissism. Folks like that get absolutely outraged over any personal slight, from what I’ve seen.
> They have this “How dare you offend me, I will show you what happens when you offend ME...”
The Obama Syndrome, in other words.
Reading that article, I was thinking the exact same thing.
Probably won't stop the Gestapo from outlawing scary black rifles.
Does it matter?
Really?
YEP, but then we can’t rely on them for the truth of what they said.
The law worked as intended. But he found an alternate source,
his mother after he killed her.
America's law abiding gun owning citizens will be persecuted for his actions.
BAN ASSUALT RIFLES!!!!!!!..............even though hand guns were used. The truth will never be told because it will hurt thier cause. Never let a generated or real crisis go to waste. Will we find out that he was on all kinds of prescribed drugs by his psych or is this information private? We already know the theater shooter in Arizona was seeing a psych so we can assume he to was on psych drugs? no? Instead of institutionalizing these sickos the god doctors, politicians liberals and school administrators play russian roulette with our children!
Me too, but you know the truth will not be told if it does not fit with the Regime program.
I suggest also, that this manchild was just mad at his mother. Perhaps she would not GIVE him something he "wanted".
Maybe she would not let him have the car, let him buy that next Demonic video game...told him to clean his room or take out the trash..go live with his Dad... or whatever.
He's 20 years old, still living at home and he doesn't want to be told what to do, in other words SPOILED.
Hind sight is 20/20 but the series of events is very important.
It DOES stand out doesn't it? It appears clear that there WAS a prior incident, so maybe they can use that as a starting point for motive.
I realllly want to hear the voice and see the FACE of the person claiming he TRIED to buy a gun but could NOT.
No evidence that it’s a lie, but such a story would have the effect of validating waiting periods, and with regard to guns this administration has a historically unprecedented level of lying.
I’ll bet this is a lie —I’ll bet he made no rejected attempt to buy.
Definite possibility, but killing anyone after her makes no sense. She wouldn't be around to suffer for what he did. Frankly, if she were alive, knowing he murdered 20 children to get even with her, that would be the most vicious form of retribution I can imagine for a mother. But she isn't. So... it's still just very weird.
Police find "good evidence" on motive for Connecticut school massacre
We will see, but it appears that someone may have offended a narcissistic type. And it starts leading to other questions. Why was he at the school? Did the school officials tell him to stay away from the school because he had no business there? Is that what may have offended him? Might he have had an unusual interest in children? Did he reason that if he couldn’t have access to children then he would deny access to others to them also? Did he have a problem with female authority? He killed his mom and a female principal.
Ping me if they come out with it in case I miss it.
“The gunman in the Newtown massacre had an “altercation” with four staff members at Sandy Hook Elementary School the day before...”
Was Adam Lanza under private care of school psychologist, Mary Sherlach?
Got scared last night because my wife came home from work and said that maybe we (Americans) should start looking at some gun control legislation.
This shooting spooked her in a brand new way.
This is a southern bell who is pro-gun, pro-hunting, and pro-self defense in all of its forms. She’d be cool if I brought home claymores.
We had a great discussion and I convinced her that we should not surrender our Constitutional Rights because 0.01% of the population are certifiably insane and that any gun legislation at this point in our political reality would be un-wise, short-sighted, and probably dangerous.
What this incident shows is not that guns are too easy to get — it shows the horrible state of our mental health system in America at the private and public levels. THAT’s the real story here.
They hired school psychologists, and then added more!
But all their Vain Actions were those of Blind Fools.
THE Only reason for failure: removing prayer and God from their schools!
Real Or Fake? “I’m Going to Kill Myself on Friday and it Will Make the News”
It has become nearly impossible to get violent psycopaths off the streets and into institutional treatment. Lawsuits by the left over decades have let loose these people who see mass murder as a good solution to their delusional state.
This kind of thing will continue until the asylum doors are opened again.
Is all of this an unintended consequence of liberal compassion for the mentally ill? I think not. Destruction of the society is their goal and allowing the violent insane to wander the streets and kill at will is a good way to hasten the chaos.
Me too, frankly. This is the one they've been waiting for.
She's not alone.
But I think we should be talking more about the illusory "benefit" - and real danger - of "gun free zones", and less about disarming the law abiding.
I agree, makes no sense, unless it was jealousy.
He was most likely an out of control lazy BRAT.
“You love those children more than ME!”
If he had any type of mental issues (which he obviously did), shouldn’t his mother have kept her guns locked or locked up and HIDDEN THE KEY? She failed miserably in not keeping her guns locked up, given her sons mental instability. EVERYONE should keep their firearms locked up and HIDE THE KEY (and ONLY the person the guns are registered to knows where the key(s) are just in case they’re stolen if not for any other reason!!
Maybe if we lived in a more sane / civilized, stabilized, less fearful and moral society we wouldn’t be here. Maybe if people were allowed to follow the teachings of God, dicipline their children without the fear of CPS being called for the smallet indiscretion or drones or the NSA spying on them, were able to put nativity scenes on the courthouse lawns or display the 10 Commandments without liberal / atheist condemnation,, and teach right from wrong in the classrooms we wouldn’t be at this insane juncture in our history. Which the government all had a hand in some way or another.
So. Have we had enough psychotropic-induced massacres yet?
Maybe if we lived in a more sane / civilized, stabilized, less fearful and moral society we wouldn’t be here. Maybe if people were allowed to follow the teachings of God, dicipline their children without the fear of CPS being called for the smallet indiscretion or drones or the NSA spying on them, were able to put nativity scenes on the courthouse lawns or display the 10 Commandments without liberal / atheist condemnation,, and teach right from wrong in the classrooms we wouldn’t be at this insane juncture in our history. Which the government all had a hand in some way or another.
Maybe if we lived in a more sane / civilized, stabilized, less fearful and moral society we wouldn’t be here. Maybe if people were allowed to follow the teachings of God, dicipline their children without the fear of CPS being called for the smallet indiscretion or drones or the NSA spying on them, were able to put nativity scenes on the courthouse lawns or display the 10 Commandments without liberal / atheist condemnation,, and teach right from wrong in the classrooms we wouldn’t be at this insane juncture in our history. Which the government all had a hand in some way or another.
So. Have we had enough psychotropic-induced massacres yet?
Whoa. The message, if real, was posted Wednesday night.
From the article above.
“The gunman in the Newtown massacre had an “altercation” with four staff members at Sandy Hook Elementary School the day before”
I wonder if there was a recent crisis intervention of some sort.
Sherlach, 56, was an expert in psychology, having earned her undergraduate degree in that subject at SUNY Cortland and a master’s degree at Southern Connecticut State University.
Before becoming a school psychologist, she worked as a rehabilitation assistant at a psychiatric facility, at a group home for disabled adults and as a community mental health placement specialist.
Her experience in education included stints in the Redding, North Haven and New Haven public school systems before landing at Sandy Hook Elementary in 1994. During her time in Newtown, Sherlach kept busy as a member of numerous groups such as the district conflict resolution committee, safe school climate committee, crisis intervention team and student instructional team.
If he got three of the four that he had confronted the day before, that would explain half of the staff fatalities. I imagine that he was looking for the fourth one as well and not finding her took out her class. Assumably the other adults were in the wrong place at the wrong time or trying to intervene.
If something beyond vengance against the four he had had the confrontation with had been a motive, it probably could have been much worse, as it sounds like it wouldn’t have been that difficult to take out more classes given the lock-down respons adopted.
In that part of the country it will occasion a groundswell of demands that more laws be passed to outlaw the shooting of schoolchildren as well as laws to outlaw gun possession by sane people who don’t shoot schoolchildren. In a more rational area they just might consider that schoolteachers should be allowed to be armed and that fact be made public.
No they didn't work. The law stopped that purchase the perp still found a way. Someone hell bent to commit a crime WILL find a way. Yesterday in China, 20 schools kids were killed with a knife.
I'll see you that question (Yes, it matters. Dispute over a parking ticket? Angry about a mural? Upset the Principal may have an inappropriate relationship with his mother?) and raise you another question: Do you really believe it doesn't matter?
Been there, spent time in jail for defending myself, would do the same again.
This POS should have been immobilized either right after his altercation or at his gun purchase attempt. This kind of trash is allowed to continue their BS until they kill someone.
The whole pansy a$$ system is broken. The psycho should have been dealt with before he was able to kill.
Agreed.
This shooting spooked her in a brand new way.
I think there's going to be a lot of people who now feel the same way as your wife.
I've previously posted that I wasn't too worried about Obama taking up gun control, that it wasn't worth the political capital he'd have to expend. Twenty dead kindergartners changes things. I now firmly believe that we'll see myriad new gun control laws coming down the pipe in response to yesterday's tragedy and there won't be a damn thing the NRA can do to stop it. Obama now has the political capital he needs and, most importantly, he'll have full support from those minority and female voters who returned him to the White House.
Come Christmas morning when Americans turn on their TVs and see images of grieving parents, unopened presents and little kid-sized coffins being lowered in to the ground, every minivan-driving soccer mom in the land is going to be screaming for Obama to do something.
Does it matter?
Really?
Actually, it may matter. If it was the kind of beneign altercation that happens a thousand times a day across the country and is forgotten a few minutes later (i.e., a verbal dispute over a parking space, who's next at McWendy Kings, or abuse of the express lane at the grocery store, that never goes beyond a dirty look, mumbling under the breath, or an obscene gesture), then that's one thing; but if this guy became enraged, took the altercation to the next level and made specific threats of violence, and nothing was done about it, then there are a lot more questions to ask.
That’s damned interesting.
It’s 4Chan, so yeah, it could be a fake, but then again, it could be real. Only way to know is to get into the kids’ computer and see what he had on there, provided he didn’t wipe it first.
Graphic, but interesting. Where the hell did he find a photo of Harris and Klebold dead, I wonder? I should say, who posted that on the web? Pretty morbid.
Does it matter?
Really?
Actually, it may matter. If it was the kind of beneign altercation that happens a thousand times a day across the country and is forgotten a few minutes later (i.e., a verbal dispute over a parking space, who's next at McWendy Kings, or abuse of the express lane at the grocery store, that never goes beyond a dirty look, mumbling under the breath, or an obscene gesture), then that's one thing; but if this guy became enraged, took the altercation to the next level and made specific threats of violence, and nothing was done about it, then there are a lot more questions to ask.
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