Skip to comments.The Great California Commercial Vehicle Purge is underway
Posted on 12/15/2012 11:20:45 AM PST by twistedwrench
All registered owners of vehicles weighing more than 26,000 GVW have received this letter over the past couple weeks. This edict, only applies to diesel powered vehicles used as a function of business. Privately used vehicles are exempt, at this time. Compliance is very expensive, Diesel Particulate Filters, start around $10,000.00 per vehicle. New vehicles are as high as, $140,000.00. This is an enormous expense to California business owners, which obviously will be passed on. California business also has to comply with a carbon credit scam and undoubtedly, the future recension of Prop 13 protection of commercial property.
There are no words that can describe the insanity of the people controlling this state.
I wish everyone a Very Merry CHRISTmas
Agenda 21 by any other name...
My husband and I own a place out in the high desert of Riverside County, the HOA was formed to maintain the dirt roads there.
We have five large machines that fall in this category. To fit them to what the state wants and cover the costs (even using the reserves for truck maintenance) our HOA fees are going to double.
We can use the reserves for this purpose but when they are depleted, there is time limit on build back...
that community is screwed either way.
I can’t imagine what a small or medium business will go through, probably many will just shut down.
Surely this will apply to all those vehicles coming over the border from our great neighbors to the south as well.
Yes, I agree. Im very familiar with Agenda 21. Its just maddening to watch it happen in this beautiful state, with no resistance what so ever.
I found an old fuel truck that had it's tank coated with asbestos insulation and had to leave Calif., but didn't go back to buy it. Looks like there is going to be number of those available in a couple of years.
I would imagine they are exempt also, due to their Political compliance.
Only our trading partners to the East and North will be harassed
It will filter down to the other States in time. But, what the hell, On November 6,2012 the people had a choice and stuff like this is what they chose.
Why don’t they just ban all trucks and get it over with?
If I had one of the described vehicles and got a haul to California I would refuse the haul.
I’m sure they’re doing it for “the children”.
No cost is too great in the quest for zero pollution, not even zero economy.
Several years ago our sister-in-law (a liberal environmental lawyer in DC) was bragging how they got Albuquerque to pass an emissions test requirement for all vehicles registered in the county. She stated it would remove almost all the smog in the city. When I asked what about the 40% of the population that lives outside the county that drives up to 40 miles each way every day to go to work in Albuquerque, shouldn't they also undergo the testing? She said no, because they live outside the county. Yet they add tons of matter to the air every day I said. She said it doesn't matter.
End result, Albuquerque still looks like LA, no change, yet thousands of people have to pay good money every year for nothing. Big waste.
Typical Lib Logic, move the pollution somewhere else. It really makes you heart sick to see perfectly good equipment, go through the shears at the scrap yards, then head to China.
This evil blob is >>>> HEAD OF THE CALIFORNIA AIR RESOURCES BOARD
Mary D. Nichols
Ms. Nichols, born April 10, 1945, in Minneapolis, was one of the first female journalists hired by The Wall Street Journal. She served briefly as campaign manager for Tom Bradley, the mayor of Los Angeles, in his unsuccessful 1986 run for governor. She graduated from Cornell and Yale Law. Her husband is John F. Daum, a lawyer who represents Exxon Mobil. They have two children, both lawyers.
There will be a large number of truckers who will avoid delivering in CA due to those reg’s. Supply and demand will raise the transportation cost of everything brought to the state.
It depends on air quality. Absolutely no emissions tests in this state. I had a mechanic repeat what you just posted over ten years ago. Still hasn’t happened. As long as the air quality doesn’t deteriorate, it won’t.
One of the most destructive dangerous people in the us
This is what i’m hoping will happen. When the shelves run low, maybe more people will wake up.
Our son has a 1986 Porsche 911. The shops around here (Silicon Valley, CA) keep telling us that new California air regs are going to make it impossible for all older cars to pass the smog check in a couple of years. This will effectively end all classic cars.
The ratchet will keep tightening until we are all in trains or on bicycles.
My DH and I drove team... glad we are out of the biz. Don’t these people know everything from their shoelaces to their cell phones, to their car keys spend time on a truck. When we were driving I just thought if all drivers quit delivering to DC we could get rid of this crap. Corporate truckers may have some deals going on, but this is bad news for every consumer. I guess we will be using more of Warren Buffet’s trains.. weird huh? Wait, how do things get from the train to the distribution center? Hmmm Agenda 21 for sure.
Any analysis yet on what the car “black box” mandate will lead to?
You would be prudent to do so. The letter clearly states this edict applies to out-of-state vehicles. A lot of long-haulers are going to start refusing CA loads as soon as word of the fines starts to spread.
Just give Ca. back to Mexico, it’s a lost cause anyway which is why I left 15 years ago.
Just give Ca. back to Mexico, it’s a lost cause anyway which is why I left 15 years ago.
CARB, not only screwing over CA residents but the rest of the country with their idiotic CARB-complaint gas cans which take about 4 hands to operate and spill more gas then a regular can.
They have also forced (for the same reason) changes to our auto engines that have driven up costs of new vehicles.
The residents have gotten even worse in recent years; they were always a bit off. One time on Elmendorf AFB I was talking with a guy who just transfered in and having a decent conversation with him until he said something really stupid. I asked, “You are from California, aren't you?” He was. I don't think he ever spoke to me again....
Looks like the Big Truckers want to put the small truckers out of business. This is an excellent plan to do just that.
I would guess, here in California, tracking your miles driven. Replace the gas tax with per mile tax.
And heres why:
The law encourages an integrated approach to reducing emissions changing land use patterns to reduce the need to drive, investing in mass transit and other alternatives to driving, and increasing the cost of driving and parking to encourage the use of these alternatives. But it will be up to regional and local leaders to turn the vision into reality,
Kalifornica is trying their hardest to be the first business-free state in the country.
Except for the current state of the US Department of “Just Us” I don’t think this would stand up to a challenge in a Federal Court. This is a violation of the Interstate Commerce Clause if ever there was one.
A lot of women revel in participating in stupid stagnant hierarchies where they can exert some power no matter how vindictive and nasty. Where everyone knows their place within the hierarchy. Like the middle ages where everyone knew if he was a knight, a serf or a king and there was little progress. Men are the adventurous free spirits who innovate and invent and progress the human race
This is the cow herd instinct they have have. Not all of course so take it easy lady freepers.
As Horowitz quoted the 60s radical, “The issue is never the real issue: the real issue is always the Revolution. The cause is never the real cause: the real cause is the acquisition of power.”
This is about the tyrannical government establishing carbon credits to gain wealth/control/power. The issue - clean air - is obviously not the real issue.
I visited much of California in May. I visited a good friend in Mountin View for three days and traveled the length of the State and much of the way back.
My conclusion was that California is over populated. The insanity of which you speak is the method implemented to reduce the population.
Last night at our annual Class of ‘60 Christmas party there were two (actually 3 with the wife counted) classmates who in their retirement fled California for the peace of East Tennessee. The policy, insane as it seems, is working.
If you bought it, a truck brought it. And California consumers are about to learn that they are paying for these new devices as well. Anyone know how many commercial trucks are operating in the Peoples’ Republic of Californistan?
Yep, I found that to be true and wuz most annoyed at all the gas going into the ground and then at all the money wasted.
It was a Blitz (may they rest in piece) plastic can. I had to go get a metal funnel with a flexible neck as the new (improved) spout wouldn't even reach into the filler neck to pop open the CARB flap door.
"Blitz USA, which had about 70 percent of the gasoline can market, spent more than $30 million defending 42 product liability lawsuits after consumers were injured pouring gasoline out of the can onto an open fire, according to the company. That's forced the company to lay off virtually its entire workforce, a few will remain until all of the company's assets are sold off -- robbing them off their pay, their health care, and their stability."
Welcome to Nevada, California businesses!!!
No income taxes—lower property taxes, lower prices on property & plenty of people ready to work for you!!!
Just one of the reasons when I owned a trucking company I never once allowed any of my trucks to cross the California border. They can keep their produce or whatever and find another source for trucking stuff in as far as I was concerned.
Want to stop this insanity? Truckers hit by this just refuse to deliver goods and services in or to CA. Three days without food in LA should be enough. SF, on the other hand, would be OK with homosexual cannibalism.
If your HOA owns and operates the equipment for its own property, the requirement does not apply. Don’t let the HOA staff cave in on this.
The equipment is owned by the HOA, not an individual.
Our HOA is a cooperation, so I am thinking we get the squish.
However, they are working with the HOA lawyer on this issue, so if that is an option they will invoke it. (Sure hope you are correct)
Sorry, Getty doesn’t allow us to post their images.
As long as the HOA owns the roads (as easements) it does not apply.
They cannot apply it to out of state vehicles.
California has no control of interstate commerce. They are still under a court order from the requirement to add smog equipment to cars purchased out of state.
Early in his first term, Illinois governor, Rod Goblowabitch proposed a special tax on trucking companies. A group of independent truckers formed a delegation and visited with him.
They reminded him just how mobile their businesses were and that they would move, as a group, to neighboring states if he pushed a new tax on them. Good old crook Rod let it quietly drop.
Sounds like a good chance to pick up a 10 year old or so truck at a discount and move it out of state.
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