Skip to comments.Killerís Mother, His First Victim, Was a Gun Enthusiast, Friends Say
Posted on 12/15/2012 12:54:40 PM PST by BunnySlippers
She often went to a local restaurant and music spot, My Place, where she sat at the bar, according to a manager there who gave her name only as Louise. Ms. Lanza typically came to My Place alone, said another acquaintance, Dan Holmes, owner of Holmes Fine Gardens, a landscaping company in Newtown, who also met her at the bar.
At craft beer tastings on Tuesday evenings, he recalled, she liked to talk about her gun collection.
She had several different guns, he said. I dont know how many. She would go target shooting with her kids.
Law enforcement officials said they believed that the guns were acquired lawfully and registered.
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Please add MATT FLEGENHEIMER and RAVI SOMAIYA as authors.
She would go target shooting with her kids
Wow, bad woman..!
She was single and OWNED GUNS...!
She even SPOKE about them..!!! //
How many places outside of NYC, Madison or Berkeley does this sound evil...?
I refuse to read this, but I’ve got an idea that the NYT is trying to cleverly hint that, as a gun owner, she had it coming.
I really hope the people that write this crap burn in hell . . . soon.
Marksmanship might help him focus his mind a bit more and, with his busy dad out of the house, teach him a little about being a man.
I don’t follow how this is bad at all.
Nuking the NYT. i approve!
As for the mother having guns, well, there are many gun enthusiasts who don't go on crazed rampages. Geez, how many guns did George Washington have? Oh, yeah, he was a radical who turn on his English countrymen. The msm will spin this so there's nothing close to reality. Just like yesterday where there wasn't 10% of the truth from them.
Won’t be long before the shooter is the victim.
One has to question mom training her psychiatrically ill son how to shoot and giving him free access to her gun collection. Flame away, but I sense something was a little off about this mother.
Hate to say this, but if it were me, and my son was a bit of a problem, then I wouldn’t have guns in the house. She had to know he had some ‘issues’...
I don’t see how this does ANYTHING but hurt the gun control argument. The legal owner used them for TARGET SHOOTING and the murderous family member STOLE her guns, used them to MURDER her and 25 other innocent people.
There’s only one detail that matters - her son was nuts.
That was painful to watch..was the coroner on something?? Someone should’ve jumped in to save him.
As for the details..absolutely horrific. this was an angry, enraged, vengeful killing. But why innocent children?
In most of these massacre cases people drop the ball. The way they drop it is by not taking responsibility for the situation. The professor/shrink in aurora who ignored the threats including drawings. The VA tech shooter whose parents shipped him off to school without treatment. This case appears to have a mother who may have been in denial. She may be dead, but that doesn’t lessen her responsibility if she knew the kid was a threat.
There is no “gun control argument”. We have controls. They’re interested in gun elimination...period.
You’ll now see localities already with stringent gun regulations requiring a visit by Child Protective Services & a number of other agencies before permits are allowed (more so denied)
hurts the kids the most
“A different picture of mom.”
She sounds like someone I would like.
She had a lot of private worries, I am sure, with Adam. Seems like she tried to live a “normal” life with a child that wasn’t normal.
Twenty years is a long time to deal with these issues. It is unfortunate that her life had to end this way.
The low class anti-gunners had better tread lightly dealing with her. She comes from a very interesting family and her brother is a well respected law enforcement officer. Something that this article didn’t bother to mention.
RIP Nancy Champion Lanzer
I keep wondering if the mom has a FR account. :(
I think they’re going to try and paint her as a survivalist kook. The shooter was definitely not quite ‘normal’ but at this point my guess is he was on some kind of medication that affected his mental state.
notice how the times had a cute photo of him?
what about the dad that couldn’t handle having a troubled son and ducked out leaving the mom holding the bag
They hired school psychologists, and then added more!
But all their Vain Actions were those of Blind Fools.
THE Only reason for failure: removing prayer and God from their schools!
No. It’s misguided to think target practice will possibly be therapeutic for a person with significant mental illness. Dangerous lunatics need to be hermetically sealed from weaponry. My guess, from the data available, this mom dropped the ball.
When you have children, you might want to sit in Church with them sometimes and talk about Christ.
Now she is laying in the morgue.
Yeah, no surprise the dad left. I have a kid like that in the neighborhood, nothing but trouble and dad has washed his hands and moved out of state. I try to deal with him as best I can (I am stuck for particular reasons). The mother is mostly useless and mom’s new husband is useless.
I should add the neighborhood kid is a prankster and troublemaker but does not seem mentally ill to me. Just clever and quite destructive.
NYT’s point is:
A right wing gun fanatic (sleazy bar hopping beer drinking chick) turned this adorable innocent child (see lame photo) into a serial killer....
Why are they even mentioning who owned the guns? Guns do this all on their own. Every Liberal knows that.
“...but Ive got an idea that the NYT is trying to cleverly hint that, as a gun owner, she had it coming.”
No, I disagree. They have written this to show that buying guns and practicing at a range are why he killed so many. Without reading the piece I would bet the majority of comments are all about how ranges need to be shut down and without ranges and guns there would be no more gun violence.
They are going to move to elimination of homeschooling. Just watch.
A bullet can enter and then exit the body creating 2 wounds, exit and entry.
Did he really say 3 to 11 wounds each, that would mean according to his investigation, each person was shot at least twice?
"Murdered FSO Sean Smith, Assuming we dont die tonight. We saw one of our police that guard the compound taking pictures...
So, we know there ARE government employees or agencies using these gaming boards to communicate and perhaps a shadowy group for recruiting operatives to further a gun ban agenda.
We can't imagine children being killed for such purpose, but what better way to evoke sympathies of the masses? Remember the four dead Americans, including an Ambassador where NO ATTEMPT WAS MADE TO RESCUE THEM, even after 7 hours of sheer hell trying to stay alive. They were ignored and abandoned to die that night.
“Dangerous lunatics need to be hermetically sealed from weaponry.”
Actually, dangerous people in general need to be hermetically sealed from “SOCIETY”. Loughner, in the Arizona shootings, is a good case to study when it comes to the legal hurdles that prevents removing these individuals from society.
We don’t know anything about Nancy Lanzer. So why speculate or try to judge her before more is known. The leftist NYTs is not the source I want for my information.
Where is Adam Loughner’s psychologist? This man has a history and it is out there somewhere. Let’s wait and not let the socialists define this man and his mother. I want the truth...not propaganda.
Is there a pic of her posted somewhere?
Is there a pic of her posted somewhere?
Yes I did. Why are all the photos of the perpetrator from his elementary years? Isn’t he about 20 years old? Doesn’t he even have a senior picture?
She was probably blinded by her love for her son and didn't see it. Or chose not to. Friends and relatives said they were not surprised.
As firearms go, a Glock, a Sig and a Bushmaster are fairly mundane although more than decent. That her brother is a LEO was mentioned above, and that might help explain her choices. My wife's family comes from upper midwest farm country and guns are just tools to her. They probably are even more so to a LEO's family.
Whichever Connecticut government agency was charged with taking care of Adam obviously failed miserably. Since Kennedy's Community Mental Health Act of 1963 (CMHA) this has been a lose-lose situation for the mentally ill and the people who come in contact with the mentally ill.
No doubt there will be lawsuits and there is a lot more information that will come out.
I agree with you I’m appalled that this disgusting animal was able to have access to all those guns.
Picture of the Mom on this site.
exactly my thoughts - its inexcusable that all of those weapons were available to the killer son.