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Twelve little girls and eight little boys: Police name Connecticut massacre victims as it is
dailymail.co.uk ^ | 12/15/12 | David Mccormack

Posted on 12/15/2012 2:00:38 PM PST by ColdOne

full title...Twelve little girls and eight little boys: Police name Connecticut massacre victims as it is revealed gunman shot each child up to 11 times in 'revenge' attack after fighting with teachers the day before

The manner of death for each of the victims was homicide, Carver said.

He added that two of the victims were shot at extremely close range, and each child was shot between three and 11 times.

Carver told reporters: 'I think everybody was hit more than once.'

Parents were not called in to identify their children. Rather, Carver's staff compared photos of the children given by the parents to the bodies.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: banglist; connecticut; sandyhook; sandyhookshooting; sandyhookvictims
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1 posted on 12/15/2012 2:00:47 PM PST by ColdOne
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To: ColdOne

Prayers.

I was waiting for this list just to see the ages. We all knew it was kindergarteners but yesterday, in his teary eyed speech, hussein couldn’t pronounce the town’s name correctly and said the victims ranged up to 10 years old. He is so far removed from this and the list just proved it.

I saw the coroner’s talk. He should never be allowed within 50 of a microphone again.


2 posted on 12/15/2012 2:03:57 PM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: bgill

“hussein couldn’t pronounce the town’s name correctly”

It is incredible the difference in coverage on this issue; CNN and MSNBC are constantly scrolling and referring to Obama’s comments, while Fox makes no mention of him at all. Obama’s media rolls on...


3 posted on 12/15/2012 2:06:28 PM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: bgill

Did Barack give a shout out again before going on mic?


4 posted on 12/15/2012 2:09:15 PM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: ColdOne

The son of one of my friends would have been on that list, but a teacher risked her life to save his.


5 posted on 12/15/2012 2:10:09 PM PST by Our man in washington
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To: bgill

“I saw the coroner’s talk. He should never be allowed within 50 of a microphone again.”

The guy may be an expert at his work, but he has some issues.
I thought some of his answers were just strange.


6 posted on 12/15/2012 2:16:47 PM PST by Rennes Templar (Be positive: America is greater than Obama.)
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To: ColdOne

Incomprehensible evil and prayers for these families, this community, and the first responders. This is an event that will scar all involved and many who were not there. My precious ones are all around this age and I can’t imagine.


7 posted on 12/15/2012 2:17:26 PM PST by volunbeer (We must embrace austerity or austerity will embrace us)
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To: ColdOne
If anyone doubts evil exists...

Satan is very happy today.

8 posted on 12/15/2012 2:23:30 PM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: Rennes Templar

Doing that kind of work for 30 years has to take its toll, and you have to be sort of an odd duck to want the job in the first place.


9 posted on 12/15/2012 2:25:27 PM PST by Callahan
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To: kearnyirish2; bgill

County ME? He probably took the job where he was because he figured he wouldn’t have to be in this position. I can’t imagine how difficult this would be for him and his staff. How do you practice for something like this so you can be more polished.


10 posted on 12/15/2012 2:28:30 PM PST by ican'tbelieveit (School is prison for children who have commited the crime of being born. (attr: St_Thomas_Aquinas))
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To: Our man in washington

OMG!


11 posted on 12/15/2012 2:31:07 PM PST by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11 0bie don' t eatl my dog!)
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To: ColdOne

I heard this asshole Lanza didnt just kill them, he shot each of these innocent kids multiple times.

Prayers for the family’s and all those caught in the wake of this tragedy.


12 posted on 12/15/2012 2:32:54 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Our man in washington

God bless her.


13 posted on 12/15/2012 2:34:13 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Our man in washington

Thank God they are alright!


14 posted on 12/15/2012 2:35:11 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Callahan

Agreed.

Even if you enter into that work with the best intentions, it takes a toll.

EMT’s and nurses are a prime example.
After a while it takes a toll.


15 posted on 12/15/2012 2:38:24 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: ColdOne

Evil.

What else do you call it?


16 posted on 12/15/2012 2:39:25 PM PST by Rightly Biased (Avenge me Girls AVENEGE ME!!!! ( I don't have any son's))
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To: bgill

What did the coroner say?

Hussein wiped away fake tears. He’s a fraud, even during a national tragedy.


17 posted on 12/15/2012 2:47:01 PM PST by Mountain Mary (Pray for our Republic...)
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To: ColdOne

That explains his kill ratio being so noteworthy. With 30 victims, and 10 shots each (many might not have been shot 10 times, but he certainly didn’t hit with every shot either), that’s 300 rounds. With handguns, that’s likely about 30 clips.(Did he carry a backpack? 30 clips is not going to fit in a few pockets.) He had to reload many, many times. Too bad nobody rushed him during those moments.


18 posted on 12/15/2012 2:48:07 PM PST by Teacher317 ('Tis time to fear when tyrants seem to kiss.)
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To: ColdOne
As a father of six I cannot fathom the pain these parents are going though knowing the absolute terror their children went though watching their classmates gunned down multiple times...

Damn, I'm starting to cry...

19 posted on 12/15/2012 2:50:03 PM PST by Popman
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To: ColdOne

I thought it was a kindergarten class, but here it is December and they’re all six or seven?


20 posted on 12/15/2012 2:51:55 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: ColdOne

Execute his entire family. Maybe then people will “police their own”.


21 posted on 12/15/2012 2:53:17 PM PST by Born to Conserve
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To: Rightly Biased

Pure evil.


22 posted on 12/15/2012 2:53:26 PM PST by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11 0bie don' t eatl my dog!)
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To: Rennes Templar

He deals with murder and accident victims for a living, of course he is strange.


23 posted on 12/15/2012 2:53:58 PM PST by MrNeutron1962
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To: Popman

Our youngest is approaching kindergarten, wish I didn’t read the article now.


24 posted on 12/15/2012 3:13:09 PM PST by jughandle
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To: 9YearLurker

From what they were reporting on the news this morning, it sounded like they were first graders.


25 posted on 12/15/2012 3:14:51 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Popman
Damn, I'm starting to cry...

This grandpa is right there with you. There's a reason I pay for my grandbabies nanny to practice with her .40 cal. Not my babies.

/johnny

26 posted on 12/15/2012 3:16:17 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Teacher317

He had a Bushmaster which appears to have been his primary weapon. They sell a 30 round magazine on the Internet. I don’t know if that is what he used though.


27 posted on 12/15/2012 3:23:28 PM PST by exhaustguy
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To: exhaustguy
He had a Bushmaster which appears to have been his primary weapon. They sell a 30 round magazine on the Internet. I don’t know if that is what he used though

The murderous psycho could have used a single action revolver, a knife, club or sword. Who was going to stop him from killing 6 year old defenseless children?

28 posted on 12/15/2012 3:29:28 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Grandfather of eight myself...most are home schooled...

Their parents (my kids) are all armed and weapons trained...

29 posted on 12/15/2012 3:30:21 PM PST by Popman
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To: ColdOne
Apart from the death of those innocent people (particularly the kids) the thing that nauseates me the most is Osama Obama’s phony...phony...PHONY...tears.That God damned pig! Axelrod probably told him that this can get him 10 points on his approval rating.
30 posted on 12/15/2012 3:35:53 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Benghazi: What Did Baraq Know And When Did He Know It?)
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To: volunbeer

Where I have my morning coffee there is often a young oriental mother and her little boy. He is very well behaved and is usually walking around and visiting other tables. (small town) Today everyone there was watching the news and she was holding him like she would never let go.


31 posted on 12/15/2012 3:38:55 PM PST by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: Alaska Wolf
The murderous psycho could have used a single action revolver, a knife, club or sword...

Or a baseball bat or metal pipe...

32 posted on 12/15/2012 3:39:57 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Benghazi: What Did Baraq Know And When Did He Know It?)
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To: Our man in washington

God bless the teacher and the little boy.

CT needs to raze that place. Seriously.


33 posted on 12/15/2012 3:42:27 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: CrazyIvan

So far there really has been very little revealed about this kid or his motives. Information seems very slow in coming out. Just strange all around.

I had a feeling something horrid like this was going to happen with our new “gun free” zones. These are literally “killing zones” for anyone who works or goes to school inside one. I feared everyday that I went into work at the hospital with those signs on the doors.


34 posted on 12/15/2012 3:42:48 PM PST by LibsRJerks
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To: Popman
Their parents (my kids) are all armed and weapons trained...

Because you are a good man that loves your children and grandchildren.

That is something that must be handed down from generation to generation.

/johnny

35 posted on 12/15/2012 3:44:32 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: ColdOne
"as it is revealed gunman shot each child up to 11 times in 'revenge' attack after fighting with teachers the day before"

This "overkill" and the shooting of his mother in the face really makes this personal to him. His rage is off the chart.

36 posted on 12/15/2012 3:47:24 PM PST by hummingbird
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To: Mountain Mary

The coroner is a bozo. He sort of laughed and answered questions he said he shouldn’t be answering. I eventually zoned him out but at the end he was trying to describe something... I dunno... he went wack-a-doodle in his description... didn’t understand what it was but maybe some sort of police equipment. He was just way out there. You’ll have to watch it to understand. I don’t have a link but there should be a video up on youtube or somewhere.


37 posted on 12/15/2012 3:54:02 PM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: ColdOne
Sometimes I think I have lived too long. This is one such moment. I feel relief that I do not understand how a 'person' could do such a thing as this. Unspeakable.
38 posted on 12/15/2012 3:56:13 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: 9YearLurker

I have four daughters and a beautiful granddaughter. I have have my problems in my life, but they are nothing compared to what the families of these innocent children must be be going through. You drop them off at school one bright December morning, and they are gone. This wrenches the heart more than anything else I can imagine. Many of them probably went home to a Christmas tree that already had presents under them. It is just so very sad.


39 posted on 12/15/2012 3:58:11 PM PST by fhayek
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To: Alaska Wolf

Someone could wear a suicide vest laced with nails and marbles. Or drive a car into a bunch of people or sports stands. Or rig an explosion with a Timex. Or just take a machete to people like in Rwanda.

If someone wants to do evil, the Evil One will help find a way, gun or no gun.


40 posted on 12/15/2012 4:00:18 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: Verginius Rufus

Thanks, that makes sense.

Really almost none of the initial information has held here.


41 posted on 12/15/2012 4:20:04 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: ColdOne

Did I hear this guy right??? All yesterdand and today we heard about the handguns being the weapons with the long gun found in the trunk of the car. Now this ME says that all the shots came from the long gun. What gives???


42 posted on 12/15/2012 4:22:35 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: 9YearLurker

My son was 5 when he started kindergarten, but turned 6 in October. He would have been 6 at this point in the school year. It’s timing and cut-off dates. Seven-year-olds, though would be in 1st or 2nd grade, depending on birth date.


43 posted on 12/15/2012 4:23:36 PM PST by IYAS9YAS (Rose, there's a Messerschmitt in the kitchen. Clean it up, will ya?)
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To: exhaustguy
He had a Bushmaster which appears to have been his primary weapon.

All reports I've read said the Bushmaster was in the trunk of the car and not used. Just two hand-guns. Is this a new revelation? Not saying you're wrong, just everything up to this morning said it was found in the trunk of his mom's car, which he drove to the school, after the shooting stopped.

44 posted on 12/15/2012 4:27:18 PM PST by IYAS9YAS (Rose, there's a Messerschmitt in the kitchen. Clean it up, will ya?)
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To: ColdOne

I just got the coldest shiver I ever felt. The hair on my neck is still standing up.

This is beyond horrific.


45 posted on 12/15/2012 4:28:43 PM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Mountain Mary
Hussein wiped away fake tears. He’s a fraud, even during a national tragedy.

This was the 1st time I've ever seen someone brush the tears (such as they were) towards his eye.


46 posted on 12/15/2012 4:31:17 PM PST by definitelynotaliberal
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To: Uncle Chip

When I first heard that there were only a few wounded and most were DOA, I thought that he must have used the handguns since a .223 is designed to wound and not kill (wounded soldiers require a lot of support, thus depleting the enemy’s ability to fight).

Now it makes sense - the .223 did not kill easily — it took 3-11 shots to kill each small child.

If the killer had used a shotgun or a handgun, it would have been one shot each.

In some odd way, he used the least lethal weapon he had access to. And at 30 rounds per clip, he was changing clips pretty often.

I am starting to think that we should have more aggressive registration of the mentally ill, not guns.


47 posted on 12/15/2012 4:32:03 PM PST by Andy from Chapel Hill
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To: Uncle Chip
What gives??? I have no clue.
48 posted on 12/15/2012 4:50:22 PM PST by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11 0bie don' t eatl my dog!)
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To: ColdOne

http://www.gunfacts.info/pdfs/gun-facts/6.1/gun_facts_6_1_screen.pdf

EXTRACTS:

MYTH: Guns are not a good deterrent to crime

FACT: Guns prevent an estimated 2.5 million crimes a year or 6,849 every day.[120] Often the gun is never fired and no blood (including the criminal’s) is shed.

FACT: Every day 550 rapes, 1,100 murders, and 5,200 other violent crimes are prevented just by showing a gun. In less than 0.9% of these instances is the gun ever actually fired.[122]

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[120] Targeting Guns, Dr. Gary Kleck, Criminologist, Florida State University, Aldine, 1997
[122] Ibid

——————AND:

MYTH: Citizens are too incompetent to use guns for protection

FACT: About 11% of police shootings kill an innocent person - about 2% of shootings by citizens kill an innocent person. The odds of a defensive gun user killing an innocent person are less than 1 in 26,000 [198] despite American citizens using guns to prevent crimes almost 2,500,000 times every year.
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[198] Shall Issue: The New Wave of Concealed Handgun Permit Laws, C. Cramer, and D. Kopel, Independence Institute Issue Paper. October 17, 1994

——————AND:

MYTH: Private ownership of guns is not effective in preventing crime

FACT: Every year, people in the United States use guns to defend themselves against criminals an estimated 2,500,000 times – more than 6,500 people a day, or once every 13 seconds.[243] Of these instances, 15.7% of the people using firearms defensively stated that they “almost certainly” saved their lives by doing so. Firearms are used 60 times more often to protect lives than to take lives.

FACT: The number of times per year an American uses a firearm to deter a home invasion alone is 498,000.[244]

FACT: In 83.5% (2,087,500) of these successful gun defenses, the attacker either threatened or used force first, proving that guns are very well suited for self-defense.

FACT: The rate of defensive gun use is six times that of criminal gun use.[245]

FACT: Of the 2,500,000 times citizens use guns to defend themselves, 92% merely brandish their gun or fire a warning shot to scare off their attackers.

FACT: Less than 8% of the time does a citizen wound his or her attacker, and in less than one in a thousand instances is the attacker killed.[246]

FACT: In one local review of firearm homicide, more than 12% were civilian legal defensive homicides.[247]

FACT: For every accidental death (802), suicide (16,869) or homicide (11,348)[248] with a firearm (29,019), 13 lives (390,000)[249] are preserved through defensive use.
[243]

FACT: When using guns in self-defense, 91.1% of the time not a single shot is fired.[250]

FACT: After the implementation of Canada’s 1977 gun controls prohibiting handgun possession for protection, the “breaking and entering” crime rate rose 25%, surpassing the American rate.[251]

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[243] Journal of Criminal Law and Criminology, Kleck and Gertz, Fall 1995
[244] Estimating intruder-related firearm retrievals in U.S. households, 1994. Robin M. Ikeda , Violence and Victims, Winter 1997
[245] Crime statistics: Bureau of Justice Statistics - National Crime Victimization Survey (2005). DGU statistics: Targeting Guns, Kleck (average of 15 major surveys where DGUs were reported)
[246] Targeting Guns, Kleck, from the National Self-Defense Survey, 1995
[247] Death by Gun: One Year Later, Time Magazine, May 14, 1990
[248] Unintentional Firearm Deaths, 2001, U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, National Center for Injury Prevention and Control
[249] Targeting Guns, Gary Kleck, Aldine de Gruyter, 1997
[250] National Crime Victimization Survey, 2000
[251] Residential Burglary: A Comparison of the United States, Canada and England and Wales, Pat Mayhew, National Institute of Justice., Wash., D.C., 1987


49 posted on 12/15/2012 4:51:07 PM PST by pyrless (If you're gonna burn our flag, make sure you wrap yourself in it first!)
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To: IYAS9YAS

Exactly —


50 posted on 12/15/2012 4:52:50 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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