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Rupert Murdoch, Fox News Owner, Calls for Automatic Weapons Ban
Politico ^ | Dec. 14, 2012 | Dylan Byers

Posted on 12/15/2012 3:29:02 PM PST by VitacoreVision

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To: VitacoreVision
Uh, Rupert -- or "A-hole," if you prefer -- for all intents and purposes, automatic weapons are already banned. The only people who can readily get automatic weapons in this country are --

(get ready for it)...
(drum roll......)

CRIMINALS.

51 posted on 12/15/2012 5:28:25 PM PST by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: VitacoreVision

Oral Flatulence from the Jerk from Australia who had his henchmen help defeat conservative candidates and replace them with a flip-flopping RINO destined to loose.

Banning Semi-Automatic Weapons will NEVER take them out of the hands of lunatics and criminals - just law abiding citizens. FURTHER, when such a ban does NOT work, they will be coming after every other gun anyone owns.

THis is not logic, its emotion, And the world’s BIGGEST Emotion Pimp, Barack Hussein Obama, is ALREADY triangulating to try and disarm America using this and similar human tragedies for his own nefarious and evil ends.


52 posted on 12/15/2012 5:37:15 PM PST by ZULU (See video: http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-first-siege-of-vienna.html)
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To: VitacoreVision

These @$$h@les just don’t get it. The right to keep and bear arms is the last defense against tyranny. Hitler proved that in Germany when he confiscated guns.


53 posted on 12/15/2012 5:40:31 PM PST by kenmcg (scapegoat)
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To: ZULU

54 posted on 12/15/2012 5:48:32 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

“We hold these truths to be self-evident......governments are instituted among men deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever a government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it...”

one of the MOST IMPORTANT PHRASES in the Declaration, and, of course IMPOSSIBLE without access to firearms. And the Emotion Pimp in the White House knows it.


55 posted on 12/15/2012 5:56:17 PM PST by ZULU (See video: http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-first-siege-of-vienna.html)
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To: ZULU

Yep. The next overreaching law they pass, might be the straw that broke the long-suffering camel’s back.

Would you surrender your semi-auto pistols and rifles, if so ordered?

I wouldn’t, and neither would millions of us. The statists might be calculating that this is just the crisis they need, to totally crack down on and smash the “bitter clingers.”

Classic overreach. A law too far.


56 posted on 12/15/2012 6:01:30 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Can’t stand sweet drinks and I like to stay warm and dry


57 posted on 12/15/2012 6:10:30 PM PST by 4everontheRight (And the story began with..."Once there was a great nation......")
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To: ZULU

Criminals and assassins often use guns to commit their crimes because they are in fact the most effective and also most convenient means to their ends.

They are also the most effective way to prevent criminal activity and this is not just for convenience.

Even if we lived in a total dictatorship with all weapons banned, the criminal element would still find all the weapons they would ever need.

I have read that one reason Robert Bruce defeated the English at Bannockburn despite being outnumbered 3 to 1, was that many of the Scottish fighters used their farming tools as weapons. Since they used them on a daily basis they were very familiar with how they handled.

A screwdriver makes a fine dagger, a kitchen knife works on people too. A bucket of gasoline and a match would likely kill everyone in a schoolroom. An axe is a fearsome weapon as is a short shovel, a pitchfork or a hiking stick.

Gun control not only doesn’t prevent crime, it helps the criminal element while harming the innocent.


58 posted on 12/15/2012 6:14:05 PM PST by yarddog (One shot one miss.)
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To: Travis McGee

I do not intend to turn my guns over either, assuming that I have any which would be made illegal.

On the other hand I also don’t intend to stand in the door with my rifle and dare them to come and get them.

The whole subject could spark a lot of ideas and discussions. I don’t think the old “I lost them in a boating accident” would work either.

Saying I needed the money and sold them at gun shows etc. might be believed. I am sure others have better ideas than I do as to elude them. In the end it just might be a firefight which I know I would lose but there would be a lot of ideas tried before it came to that.

If I and a lot of others made the job too dangerous that might be enough, even tho many of us would lose our life.


59 posted on 12/15/2012 6:28:41 PM PST by yarddog (One shot one miss.)
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To: cripplecreek

Or Mr. Murdoch, no amount of gun control laws would have stopped a demon possed gun shooter who was intent on slaugthering little children and their teachers.


60 posted on 12/15/2012 6:43:19 PM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: VitacoreVision

I’ve been a NRA member for most of my life and here are a few of my observations. After which I will get flamed.
1. As an owner of many firearms, I would give them all up if I thought they would save the lives of these precious kindergarteners.( I do not think this would happen)

2. This horrific, demonic, evil killing is an extension of liberals wantonly killing over 50 million babies via abortion.

3. Our country is a post Christian country that wanats nothing to do with God’s laws. Evil always attacks the innocent children 1st.

4. There are some aspects of the gun culture that I believe need to be curbed. People obsessed with AR type rifles and extended magazines should carefully check their motives to make sure they are there to protect the truly innocent.

5. This is the 5th or so senseless slaying of innocents in the past few years, Something is seriously amiss in American Culture.

6. People with any degree of aggressive mental health problems should be prevented from owning firearms (I know this would not have helped the present situation)

7. Because of our nihilistic culture and our dismissal of God from our public life, It is necessary to put metal detectors and armed policeman in our public schools.

8. having said all of this I do stand by my moniker. All competent Americans have a constitutional right to keep and bear arms. With it comes tremendous responsibility. Anything we say in the days ahead should be prefaced with concern and prayers for the 20 some innocent children that had their lives snuffed out by a deranged, probably video-gamed brainwashed moral cretin who should have been institutionalized at the 1st hint of homicidal behavior.


61 posted on 12/15/2012 6:53:32 PM PST by 2nd Amendment
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To: Biggirl

I have a carpenter’s hatchet which I believe would have killed just as many as the handguns. It has a wide but fairly thin blade and a hammer on the other side.

It strikes me as a particularly deadly weapon if it were used as that. I also have a double edged full size axe. It would probably be even more efficient.

Erich Maria Remarque in his book “All Quiet on the Western Front” describes how the Germans would sharpen the edge of their entrenching shovels and use them in close quarters battle. He said they worked far better than bayonets.

The point is there will always be enough weapons to commit atrocities. In fact British Constable Colin Greenwood who was a fellow at Cambridge, besides being a British cop, says there will always be enough guns to supply the criminal element even on and island like Great Britain.

He also points out that in Victorian Britain, weapons were freely available to all citizens including machine guns cannons etc. The only thing which required any effort was it was necessary to get a stamp at the post office to purchase a handgun. He said the stamp was issued as routine.

At that time the number of armed robberies in all of Great Britain per year could be counted on the fingers of one hand.


62 posted on 12/15/2012 7:00:27 PM PST by yarddog (One shot one miss.)
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To: blueunicorn6
"I’ll bet you he has bodyguards.....armed bodyguards."

Maybe his bodyguards use muzzle loaders.

63 posted on 12/15/2012 7:11:20 PM PST by UnwashedPeasant
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To: Travis McGee

Re post 56, it seems to me that the banning of semi-automatic handguns and rifles and magazines that hold more than 10 rounds (you had mentioned this on another thread) and making it a felony to own or possess any of these products, would have an interesting side effect.

What if a person is caught with a forbidden product and is tried and convicted and declared a felon. Wouldn’t the authorities be obliged to go take this person’s firearms? What if they attempted this and he or she chooses to blast away? There is no way the MSM could cover that one up. Can you just imagine the reaction in the gun community? Do the authorities want to stir up that kind of hornet’s nest?

They had better think before they act.


64 posted on 12/15/2012 7:43:31 PM PST by OldPossum
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To: VitacoreVision

Again lets ban the 1st amendment sooooooooooo all these anti gun people can’t express their thoughts or the news... also again another foreigner trying to tell us how to run our country...


65 posted on 12/15/2012 7:56:35 PM PST by angelcindy ("If you follow the crowd ,you get no further than the crowd!")
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To: OldPossum

Yeah, I think a lot of them DO want to stir up the hornet’s nest, you bet. Then they will have all the excuse they need to totally smash the “bitter clingers” once and for all.

It might play out like this:

“What I saw at the coup”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2929658/posts

Some of the hate radio hosts began to fan the flames with crazy rumors that really weren’t so crazy, not to us. When they were taken off the air through a variety of means (but mainly for violating the “fomenting domestic terrorism” laws), the right wing nut jobs went absolutely mad with fury. The accusations about a secret purge continued. The plan was being laid out for all to see, even while it was being officially denied at every level, and was never reported on at all by our cooperating media networks and other friendly outlets.
And then the shooting started.


66 posted on 12/15/2012 8:19:16 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: VitacoreVision

Rupert, it’s about NUT control, NOT gun control.


67 posted on 12/15/2012 8:25:41 PM PST by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: ought-six

That is exactly where I find myself right now.

LLS


68 posted on 12/17/2012 5:21:47 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (A child is born in Bethlehem KING of KINGS)
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To: OldPossum
Actually... I do not. We have not watched fox for a long time... except during the election or a crisis. Now my family will not have that option. fox is worse than the rest... they are the only media that tries to hide their leftist agenda.

LLS

69 posted on 12/17/2012 5:23:53 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (A child is born in Bethlehem KING of KINGS)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Good for you. I don’t have a TV and have not hadthe”pleasure” of watching Fox but I have read Freeper comments and concluded that it is a two-faced network.

Sorry for the jumbling of words above. The space bar just quit working and I cannot go back and correct words.


70 posted on 12/17/2012 7:39:00 AM PST by OldPossum
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To: OldPossum

No problem... TV isn’t worth the effort. There are a few decent documentaries etc but the networks and most cable channels are just plain evil.

Merry Christmas!

LLS


71 posted on 12/17/2012 7:49:21 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (A child is born in Bethlehem KING of KINGS)
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