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Senate Judiciary Chairman: Letís Legalize 1 Oz. of Pot Nationwide
Cybercast News Service ^ | December 14, 2012 | Pete Winn

Posted on 12/15/2012 4:00:13 PM PST by Olog-hai

The Democratic chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee says he plans to hold a hearing in January to consider changing federal drug laws to allow people to possess up to one ounce of marijuana.

On Thursday, Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.) released a letter that he sent earlier this month to Gil Kerlikowske, the director of the Office of National Drug Control Policy (ONDCP), asking the nation’s drug czar how the administration intends to proceed now that two states have legalized marijuana use. …

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Colorado; US: District of Columbia; US: Vermont; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: 112th; choomcongress; choomgang; choomsenate; choomusa; leahy; legalpot; legalthc; liberalism; patrickleahy; potheads
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1 posted on 12/15/2012 4:00:19 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Sure, let’s make the speed limit 55 and wonder later why everyone drives 64.


2 posted on 12/15/2012 4:04:05 PM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: Olog-hai

Great idea. Now, all that has to happen is 50 (57?) states pass their version of the law.

This should NEVER EVER happen on a national scale. And, as ‘Rats tend to do, EVERYTHING they propose has some backdoor agenda, and this one is aimed at putting another nail in federalism.


3 posted on 12/15/2012 4:04:20 PM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: Olog-hai

I suspect there will be more than a few Republicans willing to take him up on this.

Obama has just de-facto legalized it by announcing he will not enforce existing Federal law in CO or WA. Hence he is giving the green light for more states to follow suit. By 2016 I suspect a minium of 6 and probably more will have taken him up on this, and the GOP will be fighting a losing battle against the Electoral College fumbling over whether or not to reverse course and go after them.

I think Sen. Depends will find a lot of Pubbies eager to diffuse that ticking bomb.


4 posted on 12/15/2012 4:04:39 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Olog-hai

I looked at that headline and thought, “Man! Try to divide that up among 340 million people... you won’t even get one hit out of it.”


5 posted on 12/15/2012 4:05:57 PM PST by redpoll
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To: Olog-hai

Will the homeless and food stampers get free “Obama-bones”?


6 posted on 12/15/2012 4:07:24 PM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Olog-hai

will moochelle approved of this??


7 posted on 12/15/2012 4:08:00 PM PST by 1st Division guy
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To: C210N

I was just going to say exactly that. Let each state decide its own drug laws.

Keep the feds out completely.


8 posted on 12/15/2012 4:08:50 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: redpoll
But if you're close enough, you'll get a great contact high.

/johnny

9 posted on 12/15/2012 4:11:08 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Olog-hai

Yeah! And then we’ll “tax the hell out of it!” Good idea Leaky! LOL!


10 posted on 12/15/2012 4:11:51 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (It's not about the guns. It's about the control.)
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To: P.O.E.

I don’t want to see the “Minority got Obama-Bone” video . . . “he gave us a bone—he gonna do more!”


11 posted on 12/15/2012 4:12:02 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: C210N

>>>This should NEVER EVER happen on a national scale. And, as ‘Rats tend to do, EVERYTHING they propose has some backdoor agenda, and this one is aimed at putting another nail in federalism.<<<

Actually, the nail has already been hammered. Obama has essentially declared another federal law (about marijuana) null and void, in the same manner as he declared the Defense of Marriage Act null and void. No debate. No vote. Just a decree from the executive branch.

This sadly reminds me of what I can recall dimly from my History of Rome class back in college. Augustus becomes the supreme ruler, and, ironically, his first decree is the re-establishment of the Republic. (I’m probably wrong about this, but I think my gist is close to the mark.) Obama has decreed that states can violate a federal law. He’s acting like a dictator - in this case, a benevolent dictator, but a dictator nonetheless. He’s not advancing the ideal of limited government and shared power among the states - he’s advancing the idea that the federal government is the ultimate arbiter of what can and can’t be done.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it. (Bad joke...)


12 posted on 12/15/2012 4:12:40 PM PST by redpoll
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To: Olog-hai

If it’s so great and on a legal push now (due to obamaland) why limit it at all? Seriously? If it’s ok to have, why have any limits on amount?


13 posted on 12/15/2012 4:13:22 PM PST by Monty22002
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To: Olog-hai

So Obama’s union buddies kill Twinkies and now he’s gonna legalize the munchies? Go figure.


14 posted on 12/15/2012 4:13:27 PM PST by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: umgud

Probably to induce hunger for those “healthy choices” . . . ?


15 posted on 12/15/2012 4:14:29 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

IMO this is being proposed because of Florida new law for drug testing welfare recipients...Imagine if every state passed such(Georgia up next), people would have to decide to get high or get free money...this cuts it off at the pass...hidden agenda..

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/04/20/2758871/floridas-welfare-drug-tests-cost.html


16 posted on 12/15/2012 4:15:56 PM PST by rolling_stone
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To: Monty22002

Great point. Why not 16 ozs? Or 32 oz?


17 posted on 12/15/2012 4:16:19 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (It's not about the guns. It's about the control.)
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To: rolling_stone

That sounds pretty likely. And with obamacare there will be a lot of government profit in getting people hooked on weed and then supplying it as well.


18 posted on 12/15/2012 4:17:36 PM PST by Monty22002
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To: umgud

LOL! No kidding.....And I’m sure “Food Czar” Moochelle will have something to say about the foods your “ALLOWED” to have while having the munchies. That’s right citizen enjoy your gov’t approved marijuana but no salty/fatty snacks are allowed afterwards....also no large sodas for your dry mouths.


19 posted on 12/15/2012 4:18:39 PM PST by jakerobins
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To: Olog-hai
Legalization is inevitable, IMHO.

There's lots of money to be made in the drug trade, and gov't needs a new revenue stream. Enforcement and detention will morph into regulation and taxation. The DEA, rather than costing $Billions a year, could actually show a profit...

20 posted on 12/15/2012 4:18:49 PM PST by ZOOKER ( Exploring the fine line between cynicism and outright depression)
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To: Olog-hai

I support it not because I use it (I confess I inhaled it in the late 60s, early 70s), but because I’m tired of paying for double standards and the government telling us what we can and can not do. This is about enforcing mickey mouse laws that cost us billions in law enforcement and incarceration costs just as prohibition did.

The next big crunch in government overreach will be to go after our firearms. We need to be prepared for that fight because ultimately it is about the media brainwashing and turning average people into serfs who will attempt to overturn the Constitution for the elite that want disarmed.

I’ll guarantee you that Wall St, Hollywood and DC big wigs are using marijuana at will and no one ever throws them into jail. This is a little person crime.


21 posted on 12/15/2012 4:19:03 PM PST by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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To: redpoll
Obama has essentially declared another federal law (about marijuana) null and void,

Even worse, he will selectively enforce the law. Friends caught with pot will be let free. Political enemies will be prosecuted tot he fullest extent of the law.

Most marijuana decriminalization laws are ridiculous. You can have a small amount of pot, but you can't grow it for yourself and it is illegal to be sold. Thus you get a combination of the worst parts of an intoxicated populous and the ongoing black markets and war on drugs.

Either legalize it or don't. But don't screw around with the half way measure.

22 posted on 12/15/2012 4:19:23 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Big Bird is a brood parasite: laid in our nest 43 years ago and we are still feeding him.)
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To: umgud
Obamugabe has a difficult time following the script when he's not using a teleprompter.

What I still don't understand is why he sent that kid in Connecticut out to kill all the little kids ~

23 posted on 12/15/2012 4:19:59 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Olog-hai

I’m in favor of some legalizing myself. This is clearly a case of the cure worse than the disease.


24 posted on 12/15/2012 4:21:00 PM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: Olog-hai

A doped-up populace is a compliant populace. Big-government statists seem to be waking up to trading the power-growing benefits of the “war on drugs” to the potentially larger power-growing benefits of being a dope peddler.


25 posted on 12/15/2012 4:22:15 PM PST by greene66
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To: greene66
Certainly sounds like a shift towards Brave New World versus 1984 . . .
26 posted on 12/15/2012 4:24:33 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: KarlInOhio

>>>Even worse, he will selectively enforce the law. Friends caught with pot will be let free. Political enemies will be prosecuted tot he fullest extent of the law.<<<

You got that right. In fact, I believe that’s the intent. God help us.


27 posted on 12/15/2012 4:28:47 PM PST by redpoll
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To: Olog-hai

Leftwing jackass pretending to be libertarian...

These proponents of deregulating THC give the impression they’re for smaller govt, but in actuality, they’re pandering Leftwing assholes. Smaller govt is a vexing proposition to these control freaks.


28 posted on 12/15/2012 4:30:30 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: Olog-hai

Plus, I’ve always been squeamish enough about the government profiting off of lotteries. But to profit off of dope-peddling? Good grief. It would be hard for me to regard such a government as having any moral legitimacy whatsoever. Well not hard. Impossible.


29 posted on 12/15/2012 4:35:12 PM PST by greene66
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To: redpoll

And like any good Alinskyite, it’s all part of a deliberate strategery.

I know many voters (and I’m sure you do too) who vote Conservative based on social issues, even though in their heart they lean Left on economic ones. This describes the typical Catholic voter here in Pittsburgh pretty well. Barry is on a mission to totally defuse those social issues by 2016.

Gay Marriage? Already a done deal with 14 million queer couples and rising. Abortion? Totally paid for under national health care. Marijuana? Legal in any state that chooses to decriminalize.

Once these voters look and see that all the social issues they care about are settled and lost, and there is no putting the toothpaste back in the tube, they are going to be free to go back to voting their Liberal instincts on the economy. And they will.


30 posted on 12/15/2012 4:38:08 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: redpoll
I looked at that headline and thought, “Man! Try to divide that up among 340 million people... you won’t even get one hit out of it.”

My first thoughts as well, almost down to the word.

31 posted on 12/15/2012 4:50:36 PM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Olog-hai

local Gubmints and attorneys make way too much from those drug classes and fines and lawyer fees to ever let this happen.

do this....watch for BAC limit to go down to .04 to make up for the revenue loss


32 posted on 12/15/2012 5:01:53 PM PST by digger48
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To: Olog-hai

How do you okay 1 oz. of pot without okaying the sale of larger amounts for sale? Somebody selling the stuff has to have more than 1 oz. in his possession. The Democrats are either stupid or evil.


33 posted on 12/15/2012 5:04:34 PM PST by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: Olog-hai

And since stoned people can’t be trusted with guns, it would finally make sense to do away with that pesky 2nd amendment!

Peasants shouldn’t have guns anyway...


34 posted on 12/15/2012 5:07:34 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: redpoll

It should be easy for Barry. He could take the 1 ounce of pot, a family size bag of Cheetos and a 40-ouncer of Colt 45 up the hill to Fort Reno Park. He could then divide it up among the 340 million Americans and use the left overs to feed Mexico for a week. After all, he is the Black Messiah! -(sarc)-


35 posted on 12/15/2012 5:09:41 PM PST by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was lost but now I'm found; blind but now I see.)
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To: Olog-hai

I think we will legalize it. We should have provisions for retards in there. Either they support themselves or go to prison. No welfare for pot users.

It makes for super dysfunctional citizens. Big Pot will make victims out of users if we fail to address that in legalization leglislation. If you want welfare, make the choice to stay off of pot. Drug tests.


36 posted on 12/15/2012 5:15:46 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Olog-hai

I’ve got a better idea: limit the Federal role in dealing with psychoactive substances (or any other material goods for that matter) to the plain meaning of the Commerce Clause, not its expansion in Wickard. Let the Feds ban the importation of whatever and forbid transport across state lines for the purpose of selling if they want, but let the states decide what they want to allow or criminalize within their borders.


37 posted on 12/15/2012 5:16:34 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: redpoll

That there’s funny, I don’t care who you are!

I thought it was “interesting” that a lot of folks seem to want to “legalize” it, however it seems that what they are most interested in are tax receipts - e.g. money. I think in Washington state, “they” made sure that individuals cannot grow their own, at home, or whatever for personal consumption.

This is truly a schizophrenic nation. Believe it or not, there was one (1) good bill that J.E. Carter signed into law - ending prohibition era laws, ah, prohibiting home brewed beer. I don’t smoke pot, this should be handled the same way. Let people grow their own weed at home (but not sell it, just as alcohol sales are unlawful) and they won’t be criminals anymore, and are mostly harmless anyway. Useless, maybe, but that’s another issue.


38 posted on 12/15/2012 5:26:38 PM PST by Freedom4US
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Olog-hai.

They already plan to have a federal imprimatur on homosexual unions, federalizing legal pot will seal the deal between the Demagogic Party and the “libertarians”.


39 posted on 12/15/2012 5:44:35 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: maxwellsmart_agent

Both!


40 posted on 12/15/2012 5:51:57 PM PST by GreatMan
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To: C210N

It was n a national scale when the outlawed it. Why should it not be a national repeal?


41 posted on 12/15/2012 6:20:50 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Why is the government more concerned about protecting a microbe on Mars than an unborn baby here?)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Why not 16 ozs? Or 32 oz?

They will slowly scale it up every year until we get there and beyond. And lower the age to 12. But all those kids will have already raided their stoned parents' stash.

It's not fun teaching stoned kids with their bloodshot eyes and shit-eating grins. At least they aren't usually violent. Hey, maybe it would be a GOOD thing! Just keep the "low ambition" kiddies stoned.

42 posted on 12/15/2012 6:26:48 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Right Wing Assault

I know what you mean. Stoned and easier to contol and program. The Russkis used vodka but a lot of people living in this country don’t like vodka.


43 posted on 12/15/2012 6:31:16 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (It's not about the guns. It's about the control.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

and if some of these crazy shooters are high, is it still the fault of the gun?


44 posted on 12/15/2012 6:47:32 PM PST by nevermorelenore
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To: Olog-hai

I’ve received numerous posts over the last few days from people advocating criminal behavior, cowardice and insanity. Let’s see. That sounds familiar. Oh, yeah, Connecticut. Gosh, he felt like he could choose what laws he had to obey. Shooting six year olds? There’s a coward for you. Insane? Don’t need to say anything here. So, come on! Let’s hear it from those who advocate for criminal behavior, cowardice and insanity! People who take illegal drugs to escape reality are cowards, and no culture values cowards. Come on! Assuage your guilty conscience now!


45 posted on 12/15/2012 6:48:52 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Olog-hai

In the future ‘drug evasion’ becomes a crime.


46 posted on 12/15/2012 6:49:27 PM PST by IDFbunny
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To: nevermorelenore

Oh yeah. The crazy libs wouldn’t never blame it on a pothead.


47 posted on 12/15/2012 6:50:08 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (It's not about the guns. It's about the control.)
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To: Olog-hai

Is that my fair share? Taken from the richest 1% I hope.

Actually, I’d rather have my share from a DEA agent. They always have the best dope.


48 posted on 12/15/2012 7:17:48 PM PST by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Good point.

So, to clarify the case here... we have an old national law that a ‘Rat is suggesting be tweaked - ie, keep it national, but modify it slightly.

So, seems to me the right thing to do is to strike the law in its entirety, and let states pick up the pieces.

Sure looks like cleaning up from a national govt to a federal one, with years and years of krap, is going to be messy like this...


49 posted on 12/15/2012 7:22:13 PM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: Olog-hai

Good old “Leaky” Leahy.

What a putz.


50 posted on 12/15/2012 7:31:51 PM PST by Venturer
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