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Far Left Groups Defeated Connecticut Mental Health Protection Laws Just Months Before Shooting
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/ ^ | December 15, 2012 | Jim Hoft

Posted on 12/15/2012 5:00:43 PM PST by Para-Ord.45

Months before the Newtown massacre far left groups defeated a Connecticut mental health protections law. Counter Contempt reported:

Here’s a fact you might not know – Connecticut is one of only SIX states in the U.S. that doesn’t have a type of “assisted outpatient treatment” (AOT) law (sometimes referred to as “involuntary outpatient treatment”). There’s no one standard for these types of laws, but (roughly speaking) these are laws that allow for people with mental illness to be forcibly treated BEFORE they commit a serious crime. Whereas previous legal standards held that the mentally ill cannot be institutionalized or medicated until they harm someone or themselves, or until they express an immediate intent to do so, AOT laws (again, roughly speaking) allow for preventativeinstitutionalization or forced medication (I highly recommend reading the data cited in the link I provided in this paragraph, especially regarding what is known as “first episode psychosis”).

AOT laws vary state-by-state, and often bear the name of a person murdered by an untreated mentally ill person (“Kendra’s Law” in New York, “Laura’s Law” in California, etc.).

Earlier this year, Connecticut considered passing an AOT law (and a weak one, at that), and it failed, due to protests from “civil liberties” groups.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: California; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: aclu; banglist; connecticut; democrats; guncontrol; lanza; liberalism; liberallunacy; liberals; mentalhealth; newtown; sandyhook; secondamendment; sourcetitlenoturl
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To: RicocheT

We maybe we should blame the mother. At least partially.

If an owner of a dog knows that the dog is violent and could hurt people, is it not the responsibility of the owner to correct the situation? Isn’t the owner the responsible party when damage is done?

Now before everyone has a fit, I know this is a human and I know he was 20. But if he is that bad off that she needed to separate him from other kids, well isn’t that a red flag?


21 posted on 12/15/2012 5:58:02 PM PST by Aurorales (I will not be ridiculed into silence!)
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To: steve86

I don’t know... Lithium, Thorazine??


22 posted on 12/15/2012 6:00:45 PM PST by Aurorales (I will not be ridiculed into silence!)
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To: Aurorales

Those aren’t typically used to treat personality disorders, but even if they were — should all autistics, Aspergers, schizoids, schizoaffectives, etc., etc., be prophalactically medicated to pacify them? Why not just go for the lobotomy? I don’t think we want to go there.


23 posted on 12/15/2012 6:15:47 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not NurtureĀ™)
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To: RicocheT

I blame her. She knew her son’s mental condition better than anyone and she made weapons available to him.

The mother might have never imagined that others besides herself would pay the price for her poor judgement.


24 posted on 12/15/2012 6:17:15 PM PST by chronicles
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To: cripplecreek

The left may have wanted it, but Reagan had possession of the veto pen, didn’t he? I’m a strong lover of RR, but this as well as the amnesty were 2 very foolish things he did as president. None of them is perfect, and RR was probably the best we have had in decades, but he, wasn’t perfect either.


25 posted on 12/15/2012 6:18:44 PM PST by Catsrus
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To: Para-Ord.45

Here is where the blame belongs.


26 posted on 12/15/2012 6:19:00 PM PST by CPT Clay (Follow me on Twitter @Clay N TX)
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To: Para-Ord.45

There’s just not going to be an easy fix for this no matter who claims there can be. Irrational behavior cannot be rationally explained. The “Opportunity Costs” on this are high. Every decision made and action taken has a cost. If you buy a McDonalds hamburger, there is a “cost” to that Burger King restaurant next door. Your decision “cost” them some business. The money you spent on that hamburger also “cost” that panhandler because you didn’t give him the money. “Opportunity Costs” are usually discussed in describing a decision a business has made to allocate resources. Spending money for advertising means that money wasn’t spent for employee training. There is nothing good that is going to come from this horror, but, perhaps, an analysis of opportunity costs as it relates to this murderer could be useful.


27 posted on 12/15/2012 6:21:06 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Para-Ord.45

In reviewing some information regarding Adam Lanza. The newest DSM 5 which comes out in 2013. the researchers are battling over the issue Aspergers Syndrome. It has only been since 1991, that Aspergers Syndrome has been part of the discussions as a learning disability Pervasive Developmental Disorder. Basically to sum up = Adam fell through the cracks of the Psychologists in America whom are bickering over what is and what is not Aspergers Syndrome a autism spectrum disorder, or sometimes referred to a social disorder.

the liberals want to ban guns - wait a moment Adam.s mother took him along to the shooting range. his mother was a gun collector. so most likely he knew how to shoot a gun how to aim and so forth. Wonder did he go through a course on CCW, hunter safety when younger?

Note he tried to buy a gun recently but the gun Laws of Connecticut stopped him from making the purchase, because of the waiting period.

It is not known yet if he was under the treatment of a psychiatrist.


28 posted on 12/15/2012 6:23:49 PM PST by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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To: cripplecreek

One of the solutions to these “senseless” violence episodes is increasing the number of inpatient psychiatric beds to the 150K it was in the 1950s.


29 posted on 12/15/2012 6:30:40 PM PST by tbw2
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To: steve86
It appears, unfortunately, that Adam Lanza would not have been helped by anything a doctor could do for him.
30 posted on 12/15/2012 6:36:24 PM PST by darkangel82 (8 years on Free Republic)
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To: hondact200

I know two families who have school-age children with severe developmental problems. In the one case, online schooling is the only solution because the child is so unhappy when in a school setting. Unfortunately I’m afraid everyone will start looking at these kids as the next shooter to go off the deep end. Do not blame the Mom for this, the Mom has probably been going thru hell for years.


31 posted on 12/15/2012 6:39:35 PM PST by Ciexyz
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To: darkangel82

How do you know that?


32 posted on 12/15/2012 6:40:13 PM PST by Aurorales (I will not be ridiculed into silence!)
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To: steve86

My mother had “borderline personality disorder”.

Not treated. Personality disorders are the hardest to treat..the person affected thinks they are fine. Plus they are very good liars.

My mother was unbelievably abusive to my sister and I. I SURE AS HELL wish someone would have force fed her lithium or had given her a Thorazine shot from time to time.

It was utter hell living with her. Some a##holes just need to be highly medicated.


33 posted on 12/15/2012 6:47:29 PM PST by Aurorales (I will not be ridiculed into silence!)
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To: RicocheT

Apparently it has been reported that she pulled him out of school because she did not like what the school was doing. So there was conflict between her and the school with the autistic child between the two. So he was 20 years old and still finishing High School education ?


34 posted on 12/15/2012 6:48:29 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: steve86

“Just out of curiosity which particular medication would this be? I understand the USSR outpatient clinics in Siberia offered some mighty potent ones. “

Well, what *was* done didn’t work out very well, did it?

A crazy person has an inalienable right to walk around unrestrained and unmedicated until after he hurts someone. But the Left/Gov’t will blame this tragedy on *your* gun and expect you to be happy to give it up.

Don’t forget to smile. :)


35 posted on 12/15/2012 6:49:22 PM PST by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: Aurorales

Anyone who could do something this horrific probably wouldn’t be helped by modern medicine.


36 posted on 12/15/2012 7:08:05 PM PST by darkangel82 (8 years on Free Republic)
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To: Para-Ord.45

I’m sure the MSM will get right on this.
/s


37 posted on 12/15/2012 7:12:08 PM PST by matt04
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To: darkangel82

The psyc meds they COULD give him sure as hell would have helped those little kids.

If nothing else, sedate him. Something tells me that would have stopped this.


38 posted on 12/15/2012 7:16:39 PM PST by Aurorales (I will not be ridiculed into silence!)
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To: RicocheT

This hit it home for me. The perp I had to put down had shot a gun into a house with someone he was mad at inside, back when he was a minor.

30 years later he was threatening to kill his ex and me and the law could not and would not do anything. Fortunately, he was chased off at his ex’s house by shotgun and then headed to my place to gun me down. I was waiting in the dark house with a .44 and survived his attack. 911 had over an hour to intercept him and didn’t. They held me in jail on murder 2 for lack of half a million bail while they “sorted” it out.

The system is broken.


39 posted on 12/15/2012 7:21:21 PM PST by soycd
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Para-Ord.45.

Link any AWB to a ban on violence in Hollywood movies
[basically, blame Hollywood for these shootings]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2969159/posts


40 posted on 12/15/2012 7:24:09 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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