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Far Left Groups Defeated Connecticut Mental Health Protection Laws Just Months Before Shooting ^ | December 15, 2012 | Jim Hoft

Posted on 12/15/2012 5:00:43 PM PST by Para-Ord.45

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To: Lera

There are two ways that Prozac usage can negatively affect the likelihood of someone ding something terrible:

1. Depressed person develops suicidal/homicidal ideation, but the depressed state saps the person’s gumption to do anything about it. Anti-depressants fix the depression, but the suicidal ideation remains. My personal theory is that this affects children/young adults more commonly than adults simply because someone that young is unlikely to have any OTHER ideation to revert to: they’ve only known suicidal ideation.

2. ADHD is often comorbid with depression. Anti-depressants negate the stimulant effect of ADHD medications, such as amphetamines. If a kid quits taking his anti-depressants but continues to take his ADHD meds, he can get the worst sort of high you can imagine, which combined with depression can make someone desperate, violent and juiced up.

In neither case are the anti-depressants really the problem.

51 posted on 12/16/2012 6:19:55 AM PST by dangus
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To: RicocheT

I do blame her somewhat, her being a teacher, had to know that when a child is not doing well in school to the point of removing him, that perhaps, he was bullied in school, she should have removed the guns from her house.

How many people like Adam, Goth types, have residual anger from being bullied, have shot up schools. Columbine comes to mind.

She isolated him thinking that was the best thing to do. But I suspect, he had a lot of built up anger at the school. Not sure though, why he targeted the little ones....

Mom has some share of blame here; and how involved was the father? Why was not he shot as well....

52 posted on 12/16/2012 7:42:53 AM PST by Engedi
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To: livius

‘California had a gem of a hospital for this purpose - - -’

Would that have been in Ventura County, by any chance?

If so, many years ago it became a 2 year university, and now is a 4 year one . .
To me, some of the buildings are creepy - - - knowing them from the past, but is okay when unknown , I guess.

53 posted on 12/16/2012 11:33:00 AM PST by USARightSide (S U P P O R T I N G OUR T R O O P S)
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To: Lera

I agree, and ritalin and adderol. My son was tested for ADD in 8th grade and was said not to have it. The doctor wanted to put him on ritalin any way. I said no.

I also believe all depression/anxiety medications are over-prescribed. But I’m also against aricept for alzheimer’s, separate issue but it was given to my mother-in-law in a nursing home. The family wasn’t notified, I found out a year and a half later that she was on it, during that time she was hallucinating seeing dead people, crying, nasty, sweet..all ranges of emotions. I only found out she was on it because she needed a heart procedure and the surgeon at the hospital called me to say they had to take her off the aricept to do the procedure.

When I questioned her doctor at the nursing home as to why he put her on the aricept, he said and I quote, “She said she couldn’t remember some things from the past”...THAT WAS HIS TEST for her to be put on a mind-altering drug, and it did alter her mind..I’m sure the pharmaceutical salesmen reward the doctors well in these nursing homes to drug up the residents. I am a huge skeptic and possible cynic when it comes to doctors. After another year my mother-in-law got off the aricept but damage was done. Now she’s on cymbalta, lovely side effects with that..she’s still in and out of moods, incoherent, unable to have normal conversations (couldn’t with the aricept either), she was still coherent before the aricept took her mind away. I am livid over it all and helpless to do anything about it. I am caring for my dying mother 24/7.

Drugging little boys IMO may be creating the monsters we are seeing today. Not the only reason no doubt but a possible part of it all.

54 posted on 12/16/2012 12:57:10 PM PST by tina07 (In loving memory of my father,WWII Vet. CBI 10/16/42-12/17/45, d. 11/1/85)
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To: USARightSide

It was Agnews State, in Sta Clara County. They had a special division for adolescents, and it was one of the leading places in the country. Also, there was a short-term emergency adolescent psych medicine facility in SF, although I don’t remember the name now.

Strangely enough, looking at it as it is now, CA had one of the best mental health systems in the country. NY also had a good one.

Gov. Reagan dumped institutionalization in CA (although I read later that he regretted it) mostly at the advice of the ACLU, on the one hand, and the urgings of fiscal conservatives on the other. They obviously didn’t realize that the cost of free-range mentally ill would be a heck of a lot higher than any institutional costs.

I was living there when he did this, and it’s really the only thing that has made me not like Reagan. He was an excellent President, but this was a serious blight on his record as Governor.

55 posted on 12/16/2012 1:12:28 PM PST by livius
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To: chronicles

I wondered after reading about the shooting how that kid knew how to shoot. Later I found out it was his mother who took the kid to the target range and got them to learn how to shoot. “She” trusted her kid with guns. Neighbors who knew the family said that the younger son was likely to committ such a crime: killing lots of people. It seems she is to blame.

56 posted on 12/17/2012 12:53:43 PM PST by annajones (Please Act)
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