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Expert: Arm Teachers, Ban Gun-Free Zones to Halt Mass Shootings!
Newsmax ^ | 12/15/12 | David A. Patten

Posted on 12/15/2012 8:16:45 PM PST by Nachum

Banning gun-free zones and allowing teachers to carry concealed weapons could help eliminate mass shootings at schools, gun-control expert John R. Lott told Newsmax in an exclusive interview Saturday.

Lott, an author and college professor, told Newsmax that gun-free zones become “a magnet” for deranged killers who hope to burn their names into the history books by running up a big body count.

Lott’s landmark book "More Guns, Less Crime: Understanding Crime and Gun Control Laws" is in its 3rd edition. He told Newsmax there is a “very good chance” the Connecticut school shooting could have been averted, if teachers there were permitted to carry concealed handguns.

It is no accident, he said, that mass shootings repeatedly have occurred in designated gun-free zones, which attract lunatics looking to murder as many souls as possible before they turn their guns on themselves.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: arm; ban; banglist; guncontrol; gunfree; gunfreezone; massshootings; sandyhookgundefense; secondamendment; teachers
People have been saying this for a while now
1 posted on 12/15/2012 8:16:59 PM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum

“Banning gun-free zones and allowing teachers to carry concealed weapons could help eliminate mass shootings at schools”

No kidding....


2 posted on 12/15/2012 8:18:51 PM PST by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: Nachum

Teachers have to be armed here, just like they are armed in Israel. Every teacher in Israel carries a gun, its the norm over there and no one makes a fuss..yes Israel its a different way of life but they are protecting themselves in the exact same way we should be protecting ourselves here


3 posted on 12/15/2012 8:21:29 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Nachum

Most teachers are liberals who faint at the sight of a gun. IMHO, tt would be better to hire retired policemen and military types who know their way around firearms to protect the kids.


4 posted on 12/15/2012 8:21:51 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (It's not about the guns. It's about the control.)
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To: Nachum

I’d settle for opening back up the mental institutions and locking all the crazy people up like they should be.


5 posted on 12/15/2012 8:21:58 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: Nachum
Custodians should be trained and armed. Teachers should have that same option.
6 posted on 12/15/2012 8:26:47 PM PST by oldenuff2no
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To: Nachum
Exactly. However, being the truthful, right answer, the liberal left is going to have extreme difficulty with this one.

Also, seems like a lot of the mass shooting involve caucasians shooting caucasians. I haven't read too many stories of Blacks or Hispanics shooting their own for what seems like no reason. The only exception would be the killings in Mexico. However, most of that is drug-trafficking related, isn't it?

7 posted on 12/15/2012 8:26:56 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Nachum

The Israelis have us all beat to hell on keeping terrorists off airplanes and keeping school kids safe. Maybe someday we’ll wake up.


8 posted on 12/15/2012 8:27:11 PM PST by upchuck (America's at an awkward stage. Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: GenXteacher

Guess what? Liberals have so brainwashed our country that I would bet ANY amount of money that the LIBERAL teachers would NOT carry. Liberals are lilly livered cowards and would NEVER pack. My brother is a liberal and a coward, hates any kind of “confrontation”. Also, the young brainwashed skulls of university mush, believe that no one should ever own a gun because of the astounding numbers of “accidental” deaths from gun which FAR outweigh the help guns give; I’ve heard that from so many newly graduated kids that I guess it’s the truth! We’re toast.


9 posted on 12/15/2012 8:28:31 PM PST by hulagirl (Mother Theresa was right)
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To: Nachum
I have great respect for John Lott as a researcher, but I doubt seriously that mass killers are focussed on their postmortem fame. That is facile and unlike the kind of motivation that energizes ultimate aggression. These people are in another world by the time they get around to their fate. "What people will think after I'm gone" is not a big deal for them.

The fact is, mass killing is rare. We can't have perfection in this world. Arming teachers is not a bad idea, but it will be very disappointing when it fails to deter or stop aggression.

10 posted on 12/15/2012 8:29:55 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Nachum
Harrold Independent School District

Packing for school: Guns on campus one year later

Just for a reference.

11 posted on 12/15/2012 8:31:50 PM PST by Theoria (Romney is a Pyrrhic victory.)
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To: Nachum

12 posted on 12/15/2012 8:32:19 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

“tt would be better to hire retired policemen and military types”

NO, no retired police types. The guard needs to be physically fit, agile, fast and a crack shot. A retired cop doesn’t fit that bill. Shooters tend to be young and fast. A guard as physically fit as the shooter is vitally important. Otherwise, add one dead guard to the rest of the dead.


13 posted on 12/15/2012 8:32:24 PM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Galt is freedom.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Ermegerd! That’s not PC!


14 posted on 12/15/2012 8:34:19 PM PST by Lady Jag (If you can't make them see the light, let them feel the heat. - Reagan)
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To: Nachum

While their at it stop the lock down policy. Creates sitting ducks.


15 posted on 12/15/2012 8:35:25 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: hulagirl

“Liberals have so brainwashed our country that I would bet ANY amount of money that the LIBERAL teachers would NOT carry.”

Honestly, I wouldn’t expect them to. It would be useless to arm and train people who are not inclined to protect themselves in the first place. But it would be illogical not to arm those who are willing.


16 posted on 12/15/2012 8:37:40 PM PST by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: hulagirl
Liberals have so brainwashed our country that I would bet ANY amount of money that the LIBERAL teachers would NOT carry.

That's OK, we conservative teachers would carry and save their *sses in the process!

17 posted on 12/15/2012 8:40:24 PM PST by CAluvdubya (We're doomed....)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Just a humble opinion here....but as stressed out and frustrated that most American teachers in urban schools are....I’d consider them to be as big a threat as some nut entering the school. Arming them might not be a safe strategy.


18 posted on 12/15/2012 8:47:46 PM PST by pepsionice
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Most teachers are liberals who faint at the sight of a gun. IMHO, tt would be better to hire retired policemen and military types who know their way around firearms to protect the kids.

You'd be better off arming the janitor than the teachers. We have armed guards on planes, why not schools?

19 posted on 12/15/2012 8:49:51 PM PST by CommieCutter
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To: Nachum; All
BAN THESE DRUGS

http://www.ssristories.com/

These facts are known by the politicians.

These side effects have been acknowledged by the drug companies.

One begins to wonder if the fascists in our gov’t - who know the first step in taking over a country is the necessity of stripping citizens of their guns - didn't go to the drug companies and make a deal to develop these drugs - for this purpose. The fact that these gun-controllers, from the president on down, were loud and clear in demanding gun-control, using this tragedy for their agenda, while those little bodies were still in that school speaks volumes!

Yes, such evil exists. It operates on such high levels because decent people can't conceive of such raw evil.
We need to acknowledge it.

We need to let our politicians and media KNOW we know - and know THEY know - and demand they answer us individually.

BAN THESE DRUGS...and those that demand gun-control. They are even more dangerous.

20 posted on 12/15/2012 8:56:06 PM PST by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: hinckley buzzard
"I have great respect for John Lott as a researcher, but I doubt seriously that mass killers are focussed on their postmortem fame..."What people will think after I'm gone" is not a big deal for them."

While I agree that most of them don't think of leaving a legacy in the same terms you or I do, I think many of these killers are so egocentric they certainly intend to make their mark and go out in twisted "blaze of glory."

Klebold and Harris wrote specifically about making an impression and outdoing Mcveigh's body count. Cho (VA Tech) made sure that his videotape to ABC and NBC was in the mail before he set out. Anders Breivik repeatedly asked his interrogators if he had broken any records for body count.

Certainly these people are all mentally ill and I would wager that they all have their own unique reasons, but I think in many cases, they have the intent of making sure others know they are somebody *important*. There are many other examples in those caseswhere we have at least some insight to motive that these people were driven by the impression they were trying to make. Their agression and violence are simply a means to that end.

21 posted on 12/15/2012 9:01:58 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Joe 6-pack
Having the teachers armed might not deter the shooters, but what if that principle, and the teachers had each been armed. Any one of them could have deterred the shooter permanently.
22 posted on 12/15/2012 9:14:38 PM PST by cotton
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To: Nachum

When I remember the teachers I had . . .

With exceptions I can count on one hand, I really would not entrust them with sharp scissors.


23 posted on 12/15/2012 9:21:03 PM PST by Psalm 144 (Capitol to the districts: "May the odds be ever in your favor.")
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To: FlingWingFlyer

,,and then the suicidal types looking for headlines and body count target the
MILITARY TYPES AND RETIRED COPS FIRST!


24 posted on 12/15/2012 9:37:18 PM PST by Big Red Badger
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To: Nachum
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25 posted on 12/15/2012 9:53:29 PM PST by MtnMan101
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To: MtnMan101

Great pic.

Put it up on Twitter and Facebook


26 posted on 12/15/2012 10:17:18 PM PST by Nachum (The List is off the Google blacklist- www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Raycpa

Lock downs means the teacher locks the door from the inside and pushes a file cabinet or something heavy in front of the door which opens in. That slows down a shooter big time. This happened at Sandy Hook. A teacher was on TV saying they didn’t push the blockades away from the door until the police slid their badges under the door, and they got phone calls that it was safe to come out.


27 posted on 12/16/2012 3:28:07 AM PST by upstatenyrepublican
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To: Nachum
People have been saying this for a while now

It's official - many of us were experts way before we ever heard of this guy...

28 posted on 12/16/2012 5:06:02 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: MtnMan101
Israel Today (pic)

An M1 Carbine no less.

This style of carry is a good compromise between secure carry and relative ease of mounting.

29 posted on 12/16/2012 6:09:31 AM PST by nonsporting
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To: upstatenyrepublican

Rational people would be going out the windows or exiting as fast as possible.


30 posted on 12/16/2012 6:15:12 AM PST by Raycpa
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To: Marcella; FlingWingFlyer

Also, a guard has less “skin in the game”. When SHTF, he has less incentive to in fact engage the shooter and risk his life (very cushy and safe up to that point) where he is not involved at the moment; his prime motivation at that moment will be to “call for backup”, waiting for others to engage the attacker. Happens too often.

An armed teacher, on the other hand, is the target (or a close part of the targeted group) and is highly motivated to stop the shooter RIGHT NOW as the only path to safety.


31 posted on 12/16/2012 6:18:55 AM PST by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: ctdonath2
“Also, a guard has less “skin in the game”. An armed teacher, on the other hand, is the target and is highly motivated to stop the shooter RIGHT NOW as the only path to safety.”

It's not either or - have the lethal guard AND arm teachers.

32 posted on 12/16/2012 7:53:06 AM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Galt is freedom.)
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To: Nachum

Just as people should have the right to carry weapons they should also have the right not to.


33 posted on 12/16/2012 9:21:15 AM PST by Mike Darancette (I don't understand why the Boomers are so passive.)
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To: Mike Darancette

Just as people should have the right to carry weapons they should also have the right not to.
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How true.
In a ‘civilian’ situation you definitely do not want anyone armed that doesn’t want to be.

AND, when the inevitable SHTF situations arises and ‘they’ screw up, the first thing you hear is “I TOLD YOU SO”.

Same as driving a car....If one does not want to get behind the wheel, the last place you want him is there.


34 posted on 12/16/2012 9:33:35 AM PST by xrmusn (6/98 "It is virtually impossible to clean the pond as long as the pigs are still crapping in it")
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