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AP source: Boehner offers millionaire tax hike ( RINO Capitulation )
http://news.yahoo.com ^ | December 15, 2012 | JIM KUHNHENN

Posted on 12/15/2012 8:52:53 PM PST by Para-Ord.45

WASHINGTON (AP) — Signaling new movement in "fiscal cliff" talks, House Speaker John Boehner has proposed raising the top rate for earners making more than $1 million, a person familiar with the negotiations said. President Barack Obama, who wants higher top rates for households earning more than $250,000, has not accepted the offer, this person said.

The proposal, however, indicated progress in talks that had appeared stalled. The person would only discuss the plan on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the negotiations.

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1 posted on 12/15/2012 8:53:00 PM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: Para-Ord.45
The "high earners" are high earners because they don't spend every cent they come by on Escalades and bling.

The "high earners" invest their money and create SUSTAINABLE JOBS for other people.

Government does not create sustainable jobs, because government does not do anything at a profit.

Only companies that earn profit pay taxes and pay wages to employees who pay taxes on their wages.

Without investment, there is no profit, and without profit there are no taxes or jobs.

2 posted on 12/15/2012 8:57:33 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the state." - Cornelius Tacitus, Roman Senator)
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>> because of the sensitivity of the negotiations.

Hogwash.


3 posted on 12/15/2012 8:59:37 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Doesn’t really matter whether Boehner offers anything or not. Taxes are going up. Nothing the Republicans can do will stop it.


4 posted on 12/15/2012 9:00:29 PM PST by bigdaddy45
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“The “high earners” invest their money and create SUSTAINABLE JOBS for other people. “

And when they have to get more taxes for the government they draw it from their least productive investments- hurting poorer, younger, abd less educated workers.

The very people who elect the Democrats.


5 posted on 12/15/2012 9:04:30 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: Para-Ord.45
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6 posted on 12/15/2012 9:12:04 PM PST by baddog 219
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To: Para-Ord.45

Barry knows his way around a Boehner. He’ll get his 250 grand.


7 posted on 12/15/2012 9:13:20 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (It's not about the guns. It's about the control.)
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To: Para-Ord.45

He’s getting #%*$ed. He’s giving in on tax hikes for the wealthy to prevent tax hikes on the middle class and defense cuts come January 1. It sucks. It makes Dems feel good but doesn’t help the country one bit.


8 posted on 12/15/2012 9:19:24 PM PST by RC one (Akin/Mourdock-2016)
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To: baddog 219

Brutal, but catches everything wrong with the body language of both of those culls.


9 posted on 12/15/2012 9:24:21 PM PST by Psalm 144 (Capitol to the districts: "May the odds be ever in your favor.")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Government does not create sustainable jobs, because government does not do anything at a profit.

This is not only a war on the "rich" as it is also a war on profit. Over the years I have read and heard more and more "news" folk decry profits in the essential/necessary industries like health insurance, oil and gas, food, hospitals, and all medical professions.

THE LEFT WANTS THE CAPITALIST SYSTEM REPLACED BY A SOCIALIST GOVERNMENT SPREADING THE WEALTH AROUND, MAKING THE BUSINESSES WORK TO JUST COVER THEIR COST, AND WILL USE FACIST TECHNIQUES TO ACCOPLISH THEIR WET DREAM. I know you have heard the WH joker talk about "now is not the time to be making profits, but rather provide jobs by employing more people" (as if that was the only task of a corporation).

It is way past time Americans turn off their TVs and iPads and start to quash these beliefs instilled in their brains full of mush by the corrupted education/propaganda system America has adopted through public service unions, and their media brethren, before a tipping point is reached - if it hasn't already. By the looks of Nov 6, 2012 IMHO we are over the culture rot cliff.
10 posted on 12/15/2012 9:29:26 PM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: baddog 219

Boehner is like the cheerleader who craves the attention and status of dating the team captain. Boehner wants to make out with Obama so bad he doesn’t even know he’s about to get screwed silly.

It will be hilarious when Obama dumps him. Poor little Boehner will have given away all his leverage. Pout pout.

Problem is we have to pick up the tab for this ditz.


11 posted on 12/15/2012 9:46:42 PM PST by Ray76 ("We're ready to be led" - John Boehner, leader of the opposition)
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To: Para-Ord.45
..as expected; Crybaby / Whimpering Boehmer caves
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"Marble-Mouthed" Mitch "something in his Mouth" McConnell; couldn't comment again...

12 posted on 12/15/2012 9:50:19 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (Who'll take tomorrow,spend it all today; who can take your income & tax it all away..0Bama man can :)
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To: Para-Ord.45

Wow! Who could have seen this one coming?


13 posted on 12/15/2012 10:21:25 PM PST by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
people....who the hell cares about defending the millionaires?.....this is not a winning issue and don't feel so bad for the millionaires...they seem to find ways to avoid taxes....

pubs should be for the working class...for the middle income.....why are we always painted as the evil party of the rich, when we absolutely are not.....

we should not fall on our sword for this issue...

14 posted on 12/15/2012 10:26:16 PM PST by cherry
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To: cherry

Do not allow the Dems to frame the issue!

The issue is SPEND LESS. NOW - NOT TEN YEARS FROM NOW.


15 posted on 12/15/2012 10:29:11 PM PST by Ray76 ("We're ready to be led" - John Boehner, leader of the opposition)
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To: cherry

Camel. Tent. Nose.


16 posted on 12/15/2012 10:31:21 PM PST by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: Para-Ord.45; All

The GOP needs to dump Boehner now.

Any refusal to make the move just shows me that the GOP are not Conservative. At All. Period


17 posted on 12/15/2012 10:56:07 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (Seems that the ones who understand little about the economy are economists)
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To: Para-Ord.45

Anything less than going over the fiscal cliff (only way I see spending cuts happening) should be met with civil war. The problem is those on the right won’t do it. It is always easier to say it than to do it. We will just proceed to give up more of our freedoms and earned wealth. But hey, so many will boast that they will do something this time. Bah!


18 posted on 12/15/2012 11:33:06 PM PST by CatOwner
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To: Para-Ord.45

Actually a surprisingly shrewd move in my view, and I’m not a fan of Boehner at all. But he can toss this out there, and it’s purely for rhetorical/political purposes. The problem is supposedly that Repub’s are holding up everything in order to protect the rich. So Boehner says “OK, but $250K ain’t rich, $1 mil is”.

But anyone making a mil a year can easily shift around their income so as to be completely unaffected by a relatively small change in their tax rate. Nobody’s going to pay a lot more in taxes because of this, and that’s why Obama won’t accept it. But if Obama starts whining that “this will hardly help with the budget at all,” Boehner gets to laugh in his face and say, “neither does raising it on 250K and above”.

But if it ends up being just prelude to caving all the way to 250K, then it’s still a loser though, and knowing Boehner, I have to think that might be a likely scenario.


19 posted on 12/16/2012 12:21:57 AM PST by Behind the Blue Wall
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To: Para-Ord.45

Boehner is doing “WeekEnd at Bernies”..
The republican party is quite DEAD you know..


20 posted on 12/16/2012 3:58:20 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Para-Ord.45

The situation the Feds are facing is this: when you haven’t a clue how to manage money, you always need more.


21 posted on 12/16/2012 4:57:53 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Thought Puzzle: Describe Islam without using the phrase "mental disorder" more than four times.)
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To: Behind the Blue Wall

I agree. “Boehner caves” but now the onus is on Obama. The GOP can now say they’ve compromised. Now the Rats need to come to the table with their side of the deal.


22 posted on 12/16/2012 5:12:02 AM PST by paul544
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To: Behind the Blue Wall
Actually a surprisingly shrewd move in my view, and I’m not a fan of Boehner at all. But he can toss this out there, and it’s purely for rhetorical/political purposes. The problem is supposedly that Repub’s are holding up everything in order to protect the rich. So Boehner says “OK, but $250K ain’t rich, $1 mil is”. But anyone making a mil a year can easily shift around their income so as to be completely unaffected by a relatively small change in their tax rate. Nobody’s going to pay a lot more in taxes because of this, and that’s why Obama won’t accept it. But if Obama starts whining that “this will hardly help with the budget at all,” Boehner gets to laugh in his face and say, “neither does raising it on 250K and above”. But if it ends up being just prelude to caving all the way to 250K, then it’s still a loser though, and knowing Boehner, I have to think that might be a likely scenario.

I'm with you - bumping the "offered" amount to $1 mil also demonstrates that what they want to do is raise the numbers of people paying higher taxes while insulating their voting base from paying any taxes. Until even the lowest wage earners pay some sort of taxes (beyond the "benefits" deductions), they will never have the incentive to lower spending.

23 posted on 12/16/2012 5:17:00 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: Ray76

Letting the whole argument become protecting tax cuts for the richest 2% and cutting social security and medicare for everyone else is such a losing position. I don’t understand how they can’t see this.


24 posted on 12/16/2012 5:35:57 AM PST by evaporation-plus
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To: RC one
He’s getting #%*$ed. He’s giving in on tax hikes for the wealthy to prevent tax hikes on the middle class and defense cuts come January 1. It sucks. It makes Dems feel good but doesn’t help the country one bit.

Tax hikes on the "rich" would've come one way or the other. There was no avoiding it. Hopefully the concession that Boehner gave on this will give him some leverage to stand firm on the Assault Weapons Ban that is right around the corner.

25 posted on 12/16/2012 5:57:05 AM PST by Drew68
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To: evaporation-plus

They have allowed the Dems to frame the issue.

The issue is overspending. We will spend less and live within our means - whether we assent to it or not. We can not continue such irresponsible financial behavior.

If Beohner had any wits he would demand spending cuts - actual cuts, not decreases in the increase - before agreeing to any tax increases.


26 posted on 12/16/2012 6:08:39 AM PST by Ray76
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To: Ray76

If Beohner had any wits he would demand spending cuts - actual cuts, not decreases in the increase - before agreeing to any tax increases.


You are spot-on. At end of the day this is all theatre and artificial drama. boehner and o will slow dance until the last minute and then with trumpets blaring, announce a “bi-partaisan” agreement has been reached and the country has been saved. But what about tomorrow, and next week...we will still have the same debt and no leadership..we are doomed!


27 posted on 12/16/2012 6:29:05 AM PST by AFret. ("Charlie don't surf ! ")
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To: Ray76
If Beohner had any wits he would demand spending cuts - actual cuts, not decreases in the increase - before agreeing to any tax increases.

He lacks courage, as do most Republicans.

My experience in life tells me that people fear unpopularity more than almost anything.

28 posted on 12/16/2012 7:26:16 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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