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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 16 December 2012
Various driveby media television networks ^ | 16 December 2012 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 12/16/2012 5:01:17 AM PST by Alas Babylon!

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1 posted on 12/16/2012 5:01:26 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: acapesket; A.Hun; aligncare; altura; Bender2; Bernard; bray; cajungirl; Carley; CDB; chickadee; ...
This is the Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread Ping List! If you want to be on it, reply to this post or FReepmail me (in case I miss it). If you want to be taken off, simply send me a FReepmail.

Durbin on again--forth time in a row. He's the new McCain...

Does anyone not doubt that the mainstream media are ghouls and creeps who feed on disaster? I mean seriously, look at the gun-grabbers they have for guests this week!

I not only don't want to watch the shows; I don't even want to know what they've said.

There. That's a first for me. Chat, trade recipes, talk among yourselves, but Feinstein, Bloomberg, Shumer, et al--not interested! I know what they'll say so why bother?

2 posted on 12/16/2012 5:08:15 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: All
C-SPAN Radio, available on the net also, click here, broadcasts all five Sunday talk shows starting at 12:00 noon Eastern, as follows:

12:00 PM - 1:00 PM NBC's "Meet the Press"

1:00 PM - 2:00 PM ABC's "This Week"

2:00 PM - 3:00 PM "Fox News Sunday"

3:00 PM - 4:30 PM CNN's "State of the Union"

4:30 PM - 5:00 PM CBS's "Face The Nation"

Listen at the link above WHILE you FReep!

3 posted on 12/16/2012 5:09:10 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: All
C-SPAN Radio, available on the net also, click here, broadcasts all five Sunday talk shows starting at 12:00 noon Eastern, as follows:

12:00 PM - 1:00 PM NBC's "Meet the Press"

1:00 PM - 2:00 PM ABC's "This Week"

2:00 PM - 3:00 PM "Fox News Sunday"

3:00 PM - 4:30 PM CNN's "State of the Union"

4:30 PM - 5:00 PM CBS's "Face The Nation"

Listen at the link above WHILE you FReep!

4 posted on 12/16/2012 5:09:36 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: Alas Babylon!

It’s “Anti Gun Day”


5 posted on 12/16/2012 5:10:01 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: Alas Babylon!

The problem with doing this thread, week after week, year after year, is it is getting so old, so predictable, and really focuses one’s mind to intimately know that the driveby media has an agenda.

Not to say we all haven’t figured it out; we see it every day.

But it’s days—or Sunday’s like this, you just know that these relenless partisans are going to sing and dance on the newly dug graves of others to get their collective way.

It’s beyond disgusting. Words fail me.


6 posted on 12/16/2012 5:13:57 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: Alas Babylon!

Hopefully they’ll discuss Boehner’s latest cave. A BIG ONE.


7 posted on 12/16/2012 5:15:30 AM PST by upchuck (America's at an awkward stage. Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: norwaypinesavage

Looks like NBC has the best lineup of anti-gunners, but the others aren’t too far behind.


8 posted on 12/16/2012 5:16:20 AM PST by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Exactly....why watch or even read about this propaganda anymore???

It’s all totally predictible...the same faces over and over pushing the same leftist propaganda.


9 posted on 12/16/2012 5:19:18 AM PST by kjo (+)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Morning everyone!

Thanks for the thread and ping AB!


10 posted on 12/16/2012 5:27:20 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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To: kjo
why watch or even read about this propaganda anymore?

Were you pinged to this thread?

11 posted on 12/16/2012 5:30:17 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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Here are the email addresses or web pages for commenting to the weekend talk shows:

Meet the Press Meet the Press mailbox (web page for comments)

Face the Nation ftn@cbsnews.com

Fox News Sunday FNS@foxnews.com

ABC This Week thisweek@abc.com

CNN State of the Union CNN State of the Union (web page for comments)

12 posted on 12/16/2012 5:30:32 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Ping or not, Rock, I feel his sentiments.

Snarky bass turd media types are destroying this country.


13 posted on 12/16/2012 5:33:13 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: Alas Babylon!

And few republicans have the gumption or ability to counter:o(


14 posted on 12/16/2012 5:36:25 AM PST by mtnwmn (Liberalism leads to Socialism)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Several of them must get season seats. Maybe they get a discount. Same ole names, same old talkingpoints.

I am really surprised that their ratings remain relatively the same week after week.


15 posted on 12/16/2012 5:37:10 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Alas Babylon!

In other news: Sun Rises in the East.

We all know, but once in a while some savvy young gun is able to fire off a salvo of embarrassing truth, the one moment of the day we all are waiting for.


16 posted on 12/16/2012 5:37:39 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Wow...exactly how I feel.


17 posted on 12/16/2012 5:46:55 AM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (Go Galt!)
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To: kjo
why watch or even read about this propaganda anymore???

It's a dirty job, but someone has to watch/read/listen and filter through the propaganda to mine out some kernals of truth.

Then, there are those who are just gluttons for punishment and feel watching/reading/listening is their burden to attain catharsis.

Finally, sadly, there are those who don't have anything better to do. Or their remote is broke and they are stuck on NBC and have to watch David Gregory because they don't know how to change the channel at the TV frame.

:)


18 posted on 12/16/2012 5:49:30 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Alas Babylon!

http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/12/newtown_just_leave_us_to_grieve_in_peace.html

Clarince Feldman over at the Thinker has it right. It’s a time of grieving. We already know how evil guns are and all the rest of the no guns drill. It’s time to let those who have lost loved ones grieve in piece for a while.


19 posted on 12/16/2012 6:02:19 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: TomGuy

That last one must be one of Dante’s Seven Circles of Hell, Tom.


20 posted on 12/16/2012 6:02:41 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: TomGuy
We already know why we watch. To see what the enemy is up to next.Know your enemy if you want to defeat him.
21 posted on 12/16/2012 6:05:37 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: Alas Babylon!

The best show of this type on TV is the Journal Editorial Report with Paul Gigot. It airs Saturday afternoons on FNC. They should move it to Sunday morning.


22 posted on 12/16/2012 6:06:17 AM PST by csmusaret (I will give Obama credit for one thing- he is living proof that familiarity breeds contempt.)
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To: Alas Babylon!; All
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/12/liberal-policies-are-to-blame-for-todays-mass-shooting-in-newtown-ct/ Here is another good take on what is really behind the shootings. Its liberal policies of not recognizing insanity over the years. Over the last fifty years the US has gone from a half million hospitalized for insanity to 50k we now see the result.
23 posted on 12/16/2012 6:10:28 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: rodguy911

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/12/liberal-policies-are-to-blame-for-todays-mass-shooting-in-newtown-ct/

hopefully this link will work.


24 posted on 12/16/2012 6:12:12 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: rodguy911

I agree with that.

Many, as soon as the news broke of the extensiveness of the atrocity, were jumping on their 'agenda' bandwagons and spreading their wares. Many of them were posting in various FR threads, too.

As with other similar shootings, we will hear the same rhetoric and condolescences for several days, and then we will move on.

I had a brief thought when I turned on the TV news this morning: Most of the major news outlets could just broadcast repeats of broadcasts of aftermath chatter from previous shootings.

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One thing I realized early in this was that 'security measures' are not always secure. Per reports, the principal had just had security improvements installed in October. Well, we know now that those didn't work. Too many times, such measures only provide the 'aura' of security, rather than actual security. [Stepping off my soap box.]
25 posted on 12/16/2012 6:13:11 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Alas Babylon!

Morning AB.....

.....very good point.

Am singing this morn at the 10 am mass. Will be back after that.

I will leave with my thoughts on the matter. Warning that I am often wrong on my opinion; I thought Romney would win by a landslide.

But if those politicos, worthless beings all of them, think that they are going to use this to take away America’s guns, it won’t work folks.

Any attempt at gun control stopped at 9-11-01. Can’t explain why, but it did.

I just don’t see Americans, sappy fools all of us at times, as being so naive as to think that meekly handing over their guns will somehow protect this from happening again. The world has guns. This Conn. guy, the gun control laws worked. He couldn’t purchase a gun for a waiting period and he was restless. So he stole his mother’s weaponry.

Us idiots out here in la la land know that stealing and/or obtaining a gun for illegal purposes is easy enough and us being without guns is no solution.

They’ll try.

But it won’t work.

There are just some things that are profoundly sad. This is one of them.

It’s like the lion cub. I saw it on 60 Minutes few weeks ago. It was real footage, shot in a jungle in real time.

It was heart-breaking.

A herd of water buffalo stampeded when pursued by a female lion and her cubs. One of her cubs was in the way of the frantic beasts and got run over. They broke his little back.

There he was, stuck in the mud, unable to move his back parts. His Mom called and called him but he whimpered and couldn’t get to her. She went over to him and in a last ditch attempt, she pulled him up by the scruff. She then dropped him, expecting him to run and follow her. She did not understand that his back was broken, he was paralyzed from below his neck down.

While she sat there waiting for the cub to come to her, precious little baby, did. He pulled himself up by his front legs and hopped over to her. It was as if he wanted to say “I’m here Mom. I can move but have to hop a bit.”:

She couldn’t stay with him. She couldn’t very well carry him all over the jungle for the rest of his life so she had to leave him to die.

That cub meant as much to that mama lion as those children did to their parents.

Like I told my granddaughter, sometimes profoundly sad things happen and we can’t do anything about it.

Crazy people get guns. They get box cutters, they get knives, they kill their spouses and enemies and on and on.

Profoundly sad things happen at times.


26 posted on 12/16/2012 6:13:18 AM PST by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: rodguy911

And at one time homosexuality was considered a mental disease. Even though it is, it’s no longer considered such.


27 posted on 12/16/2012 6:14:22 AM PST by upchuck (America's at an awkward stage. Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: Alas Babylon!

The problem with doing this thread, week after week, year after year, is it is getting so old, so predictable, and really focuses one’s mind to intimately know that the driveby media has an agenda.

Not to say we all haven’t figured it out; we see it every day.

But it’s days—or Sunday’s like this, you just know that these relentless partisans are going to sing and dance on the newly dug graves of others to get their collective way.

It’s beyond disgusting. Words fail me.


Actually, AB, your words are right-on. I’d add that a dramatically distinguishing feature at this point is the VERY STALIN-LIKE personality cult that has arisen rather fast around Obama, who inevitably asserts himself as the focal point of everything and anything that happens, including the Conn. tragedy and its aftermath of sick politicking.

Despite a story of immense tragedy at one end (the victims) and bizarre and gut-wrenching confusions and contradictions at the other (the shooter, his mother, etc.), today’s LEAD STORY it turns out is that Obama is going to Conn to grieve and mourn and have his picture taken.

My point?

In less than 5 years we have rushed straight from the 1905 storming of the Winter Palace to Stalin’s all-encompassing cult of personality in the 1950s—a time when all occurrences in Russia and the bloc nations were filtered through HIM, Stalin’s presence and aura being the SOLE CONTEXT for Reality Itself.

And let’s not kid ourselves about all this. Before long even activities such as national mourning and specific and personal feelings like grief will hook directly to Obama’s belt as they did Stalin’s—if they haven’t already.

It’s worth recalling that in the Gulag, as told by Solzenhitsyn, when Stalin himself died, the news was met by the inmates with mass grief and in many cases hysteria—so compelling was the cult of personality that Stalin’s own prisoners and “fall guys” agonized at his death.

We’re heading this way, we’ll be there soon, thanks to the DEVOTION of the apparatchik media we have, far more sophisticated and intoxicating than Pravda or any of that.

To dupe your own victims as Stalin did, as Obama is doing, is the master stroke for sure. Obama’s license to commit hypocrisies and manipulations unlike any ever committed is now grandiose, and to him and his sycophants has certainly been interpreted as god-like power and authority.

Actually, to them and him, he has surpassed God by laps. And as for the rest of us, we can only observe with disgust and maybe wonder why Poppa Barack has yet to travel to Mexico to mourn and grieve with all the families of victims slain with his own arsenal of Fast and Furious (buy your own pet cartel) weapons.

But that little adventure will likely only unravel in unread archives after the fall—which at this amazing pace of decline might come sooner than any of us imagine.


28 posted on 12/16/2012 6:17:39 AM PST by PaleoBob
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To: upchuck

No, now it’s called GID. (Gender identity disorder)

I call them boy-raping, disease-ridden whackjobs.


29 posted on 12/16/2012 6:19:13 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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To: TomGuy; All

The sad thing is that the true reasons for all these atrocities whether it be mass killings using a knife in China, mad bombers blowing up people,millions killed by cars every year,too many insane people on the street and not in hospitals getting the care that they need,will never be discussed today.


30 posted on 12/16/2012 6:21:24 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: TomGuy

The choice is clear. Make a police state out of the country where only criminals have guns or get help for some of the mentally insane.


31 posted on 12/16/2012 6:23:14 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: rodguy911

The sad thing is that the true reasons for all these atrocities whether it be mass killings using a knife in China, mad bombers blowing up people,millions killed by cars every year,too many insane people on the street and not in hospitals getting the care that they need,will never be discussed today.


Don’t worry. Soon enough the “asylums” will be filled with people—like you and I, for saying what you just said or merely agreeing with it.


32 posted on 12/16/2012 6:25:20 AM PST by PaleoBob
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To: upchuck
HOmos have become just another target voter group for the DNC. Little will be done to help any of the mental illness/brainwashing of voter groups.Whether you reference gays, Hispanics,blacks,you name it that buy into the spin of the demoncrat party its all brainwashing. Sadly, last on the dems list is any real help for any of these groups. They have become useful idiots. As long as stupid/insane people buy into their pap little will change.
33 posted on 12/16/2012 6:30:03 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: csmusaret
The best show of this type on TV is the Journal Editorial Report with Paul Gigot. It airs Saturday afternoons on FNC. They should move it to Sunday morning.

Was that show even on yesterday? Every time I turned on FNC, it was wall-to-wall coverage of the school shooting. I try to watch JER and the media bias show that follows it, but the scheduling has been .... uneven recently. Sometimes JER is an hour, sometimes 1/2.

Apparently somebody at FNC is concerned that JER might be a hit if they let it build an audience, and we can't have that. Unless of course, they want to put Geraldo or Bob Bechel as the host.

34 posted on 12/16/2012 6:33:43 AM PST by Bernard (Clinton Era Tax Rates, Clinton Era Spending Levels)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Does anyone not doubt that the mainstream media are ghouls and creeps who feed on disaster? I mean seriously, look at the gun-grabbers they have for guests this week!


If anyone in the Obama administration, or any other government in the USA, or in the media, really believed that guns were a problem, believed it for real, they would begin by simply disarming themselves.

Right at the front door of the NY Times is an armed guard. NBC, the Post, elsewhere—why not begin by disarming them?

And Obama has absolute authority to disarm the Secret Service, even the military.

And what about the Hollywood bodyguard industry—booming and bulging with holstered weapons. What about their end product out there? Can we demand that they take the guns OUT of their movies first, as a show of good faith.

Or OUT of the video games—???

I’ll believe they think guns are the problem when they disarm. Until then, never mind.


35 posted on 12/16/2012 6:34:24 AM PST by PaleoBob
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To: norwaypinesavage

The appropriately named Senate Assistant Majority Leader Dick Durbin has hearings scheduled in January on the 2nd amendment. He wants to calmly ban ‘assault’ rifles.


36 posted on 12/16/2012 6:35:05 AM PST by relee ('Till the blue skies drive the dark clouds far away)
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To: relee

The appropriately named Senate Assistant Majority Leader Dick Durbin has hearings scheduled in January on the 2nd amendment. He wants to calmly ban ‘assault’ rifles.


Which you can find right at the door of the very building in which he’ll hold his hearings. Will he calmly disarm the Capitol police?


37 posted on 12/16/2012 6:37:45 AM PST by PaleoBob
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To: Bernard
And with all the chit-chat reporting about the shooting, has anybody heard how the shooter got those weapons in the first place? Did he walk in s gun store and go through a waiting period, or buy them at a gun show, or buy them from a drug dealer, or use weapons registered to his mother or brother, or did he get them from the Eric Holder Justice Department?

With HIPAA, it might take a while to find out what kind of psychotropic drugs he was actually using, but the gun ownership records should be public information.

Hopefully on the the shows this morning will clear this all up so people like me could understand it.

38 posted on 12/16/2012 6:37:58 AM PST by Bernard (Clinton Era Tax Rates, Clinton Era Spending Levels)
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To: Alas Babylon!

FU Joe Lieberman!


39 posted on 12/16/2012 6:40:26 AM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Bernard

Is there a bigger drama queen anywhere than Geraldo? I would rather watch Nancy Grace than that Prutz (That is a Puerto Rican putz).


40 posted on 12/16/2012 6:40:49 AM PST by csmusaret (I will give Obama credit for one thing- he is living proof that familiarity breeds contempt.)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Ban airplanes while you’re at it!


41 posted on 12/16/2012 6:41:49 AM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Bernard
And with all the chit-chat reporting about the shooting, has anybody heard how the shooter got those weapons in the first place?

The irony is that CT has strict storage and transportation laws on the books. Either the kid somehow got access to the key/combo on his mom's safe, or the mom was in violation of the state's laws regarding same.

Regardless - he didn't use an "assault" weapon, he used two handguns, so why the call for another "assault" weapon ban?

Ditto the gun show "loophole", etc.

42 posted on 12/16/2012 6:43:33 AM PST by Sirius Lee (RE SP - Republicans, from Mitt Romney ..to Karl Rove... are said to be concerned she will win.")
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To: Alas Babylon!

Chrissy Wallace having that girl 3rd grader survivor on for an interview cameo should have his ______ kicked in.


43 posted on 12/16/2012 6:44:57 AM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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To: rodguy911

Gee Rod, you make it sound like the DNC are an uncaring bunch of bastards. /s


44 posted on 12/16/2012 6:45:36 AM PST by upchuck (America's at an awkward stage. Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: TomGuy
This really shouldn't be about guns. Such killings are not preventable by passing laws and confiscating guns. Our society is producing these sociopaths who are alienated from the community and living in a fantasy world--much of it created by Hollywood.

With 40% of children being born out of wedlock, an entertainment industry focused on violence that desensitizes people to violence, disintegrating communities with fewer people attending church or participating in community events, and the advent of technology that makes it easier for the atomization of society and less interchange with their neighbors and colleagues, is it any wonder such incidents take place?

The mass media and the entertainment industry should do some soul searching instead of pouncing on gun control as the culprit. And so should our political elites who are fanning the fire of division within our country on the basis of race, ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation, and wealth. Obama has been a divider not a uniter.

45 posted on 12/16/2012 6:47:04 AM PST by kabar
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Oh goody, little Dick Durbin is going to have a hearing!


46 posted on 12/16/2012 6:49:08 AM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Oh goody, little Dick Durbin is going to have a hearing!


47 posted on 12/16/2012 6:50:06 AM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

No...just curious...probably won’t happen again.


48 posted on 12/16/2012 6:53:56 AM PST by kjo (+)
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To: rodguy911
too many insane people on the street and not in hospitals getting the care that they need,will never be discussed today.

Also not to be discussed; Why nobody protected the kids from this murdering monster by blowing him away...REGARDLESS of his freakin' "problem".

We seriously need to start leveling accusations of deliberate and reckless disregard of the safety of "the children" against schools and public places. If those institutions are assuming the responsibility for the protection of our most precious resource, they had damned well be ready for these not-too-rare (almost common) acts of domestic terrorism.

What are the control-freak educRATs now doing, after this type of scenario has repeated itself over and over and over?

Does the term "nothing" come to mind?

Israel knows how to do it.

49 posted on 12/16/2012 6:55:33 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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To: relee
(little) Dick Durbin...wants to calmly ban ‘assault’ rifles.

Well then we should ban "assault" baseball bats, and "assault" butcher knives.

50 posted on 12/16/2012 6:59:45 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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