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Eric “Mexican Drug Guns” Holder Wants to Discuss How to Ban Guns in a Responsible Way
FrontPageMag.com ^ | December 16, 2012 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 12/16/2012 5:07:22 AM PST by Perseverando

Lately it seems like our leaders constantly want to “discuss” things with us. It used to be that principals and doctors would want to “discuss” things with us, like our grades or lack of exercise. Now everyone single time there’s a crackdown it begins with a “serious discussion”.

Attorney General Eric Holder made remarks a short time ago on the tragic school shootings in Newtown, Connecticut, where a 20-year-old gunman killed 20 children and six adults. Holder appeared to suggest the country’s gun laws may need to be looked at more closely in the wake of the latest mass shooting.

“As a nation I think we have to ask ourselves some hard questions. We gather too often to talk about these kinds of incidents. We need to discuss who we are as a nation, talk about the freedoms that we have, the rights that we have and how those might be used in a responsible way.”

Please, by all means, let’s have a discussion about how the Second Amendment can be used in a responsible way from a man who ran a gun candy store for Mexican drug lords.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; doj; ericholder; fastandfurious; guncontrol; holder; mexico; sandyhookpolitics; secondamendment

1 posted on 12/16/2012 5:07:31 AM PST by Perseverando
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To: Perseverando

The fight on gun rights vs. gun control has begun.


2 posted on 12/16/2012 5:18:00 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Perseverando
The only "responsable" way (to the government) is to just take them.

The only real way for the government to ban guns is to take them one by one.

Obviously there will be no mass banning THAT way, so .. the government CANNOT ban guns ... they can only TAKE individual guns.


Gun control is not about guns, it's about control

(I can't believe I actually said something that has been said and in print gazillions of time in the last 50 years.)

3 posted on 12/16/2012 5:23:48 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Perseverando

Isn’t he still in contempt of Congress? If the cowards in Washington aren’t going to jail him, then at least deny him the right to speak to Congeress about unconstitutional gun laws.


4 posted on 12/16/2012 5:24:37 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: Perseverando

I’d like to open the discussion with why many people do not take their second amendment responsibilities seriously. We need not just to discuss why the federal government required the CT teachers to be unarmed, but whether the federal government should have any role in these strictly local issues. We need to discuss drastically reducing the size of the federal government starting with the Dept of Justice (112k employees).


5 posted on 12/16/2012 5:30:21 AM PST by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: Perseverando
These mass murders are ALL mental illness problems. Every one of them.....and including Hassan at Ft Hood.

It's not about guns...it's about OUR ablility to recognize erratic behavior and being able to report it instead of hearing "well he hasn't done anything"....

6 posted on 12/16/2012 5:35:07 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Perseverando

Eric was not elected to anything. He was appointed to enforce laws.

If he gets himself elected to a position of power i will listen politely


7 posted on 12/16/2012 5:40:47 AM PST by reefdiver
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To: Sacajaweau

We describe this as mental illness and that plays a part, however, it is simply our death culture. Confront evil and recognize that if the principal was armed this could have had a different outcome.


8 posted on 12/16/2012 5:43:03 AM PST by Machavelli (True God)
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To: Perseverando
This is a great article showing absolute folly of Holder even mentioning this subject, let alone wanting to have a "conversation" about it.

Last of the article:


9 posted on 12/16/2012 5:45:57 AM PST by upchuck (America's at an awkward stage. Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: Perseverando
Eric “Mexican Drug Guns” Holder Wants to Discuss How to Ban Guns in a Responsible Way

Hey Eric - the only responsible way is to get all the guns from the bad guys first. Start there.

10 posted on 12/16/2012 5:46:21 AM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: Perseverando
After the gun ban, they need to ban knives, forks, most kitchen utensils & chemicals, bats, balls, rocks, sticks, ..... & any kind of physical training that might make a person capable of harming another.

I can just hear Holder testifying before Congress, “We've banned guns & knives, yet people are still being murdered as often as before. Statistics show murderers are now using bats, so the President proposes an end to baseball, cricket, tennis, & badminton.”

A better way for Holder is to force people in public to restrict their arm movements such that they cannot attack another person. Perhaps handcuffs or some other binding of the arms.

Surely, this is a better way than banning every inanimate object?

11 posted on 12/16/2012 5:48:48 AM PST by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: Perseverando

Four more years of the Keystone Justice Department with Holder as the Head Dick.


12 posted on 12/16/2012 5:49:49 AM PST by windsorknot
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To: Perseverando

Some wit should ask Holder to “discuss” what life will be like for Holder in a federal prison after he leaves office.


13 posted on 12/16/2012 6:08:28 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Pennies and Nickels will NO LONGER be Minted as of 1/1/13 - Tim Geithner, US Treasury Sect)
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To: Perseverando
Holder, answer your gun violations and contempt of congress first!
14 posted on 12/16/2012 6:09:20 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: mountainlion

I’d like to discuss how to ban Holder in a responsible way....


15 posted on 12/16/2012 6:22:50 AM PST by nevermorelenore
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To: Perseverando

The government has been partners with drug people for years. That’s why they are never really caught. Our system is a system of deal makers where everyone makes money but the people. War on Drugs my you know what.


16 posted on 12/16/2012 6:26:54 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Biggirl

If someone decides to take mine, there will definitely be a serious discussion!


17 posted on 12/16/2012 6:33:19 AM PST by nobamanomore
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To: Perseverando

As far as I’m concerned, it’s time for the liberals to admit their misguided “gun-free” zones don’t work, and get out of the way of those who will protect themselves and others from active shooters.

Instead of talking about gun free fantasy lands, we need to be talking about what standards and training should be required for regular people to carry concealed weapons everywhere they go.


18 posted on 12/16/2012 6:33:27 AM PST by papertyger
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To: Perseverando
I wrote my Congressman by E-mail. It is more effective to write or a telephone call to register complaints. That is a bit of a waste of time but it is a start. Support second amendment organizations like NRA. If you are rich sue the government. Can you turn it into a civil rights campaign. How are you going to fight the most corrupt government this nation has seen?
19 posted on 12/16/2012 6:43:33 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Perseverando

Eric Holder 1995: We Must “Brainwash” People Against Guns .

http://youtu.be/LOAUt4zpDdE


20 posted on 12/16/2012 6:52:01 AM PST by Tigen (I shall raise you one .)
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To: Perseverando

How many innocent people have been murdered with firearms in Mexico by Holder’s F&F scheme? No one may ever know.


21 posted on 12/16/2012 6:57:16 AM PST by TADSLOS (No need to watch the movie "Idiocracy". We're living it.)
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To: Perseverando

This is like having a seminar by Al Capone on Prohibition.


22 posted on 12/16/2012 7:14:13 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNE5vuI9TNo

If you think the gov’t has been up to some mischief before, imagine what they’ll do after they disarm you.


23 posted on 12/16/2012 7:28:59 AM PST by Hayride
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To: Sacajaweau
These mass murders are ALL mental illness problems. Every one of them.....and including Hassan at Ft Hood.

... and why is it that 2 years after the Ft. Hood massacre not only is this dirtbag Hassan still alive, his damn trial has not even started. What sort of message does that send to the nutcases in society except that you can get away with murder.

24 posted on 12/16/2012 7:31:09 AM PST by Flick Lives (We're going to be just like the old Soviet Union, but with free cell phones!)
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To: mountainlion

“Holder, answer your gun violations and contempt of congress first”!.........my sentiments, exactly.


25 posted on 12/16/2012 7:35:35 AM PST by stickywillie (God Bless Lord Monckton)
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To: papertyger
we need to be talking about what standards and training should be required for regular people to carry concealed weapons everywhere they go.

Why? The individual states already do a good job of that (with the exception of Illinois).

26 posted on 12/16/2012 7:43:54 AM PST by 2111USMC (aim small, miss small)
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To: Perseverando

ill give mine up when the secret service gives theirs up.


27 posted on 12/16/2012 7:44:17 AM PST by RIGHTWING WACKO FROM MASS. (Better to have and not need than to need and not have...my theory on gun control)
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To: Perseverando

Eric, let’s discuss your wisdom and love for mankind when you shipped all those guns over to your Mexican cartel. They slaughtered unarmed Mexicans. Mexico is a good example of what a disarmed society looks like in our part of the world.


28 posted on 12/16/2012 7:48:58 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: SaraJohnson; Perseverando

29 posted on 12/16/2012 7:54:13 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee
Excellent post. Even some people who own guns and hunt with guns, have the idea that Lanzer used an “automatic” weapon. That kind of weapon has been illegal since the 1930’s.
30 posted on 12/16/2012 8:00:56 AM PST by Ditter
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To: Perseverando

You first, Eric the idiot. Holder works in a building full of armed guards, security features, and escape routes. He can make his building a gun free zone and an open building first, before he drones on about 2A.


31 posted on 12/16/2012 8:02:00 AM PST by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: Perseverando

Hot air Holder is the one that should be disarmed.


32 posted on 12/16/2012 9:29:24 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: Perseverando

Responsible? How about making it voluntary? Who could argue with that? I think all liberals should voluntarily turn in their guns. In fact the NRA could be serve as a collection point and perform a public service by collecting such guns.


33 posted on 12/16/2012 11:18:56 AM PST by plain talk
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To: Perseverando

Lets ban gun ownership for politicians and government employees first, just to see how that goes.


34 posted on 12/16/2012 1:02:11 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Biggirl

that fight has been going on for a couple of decades...What Holder means is finding a way to outlaw guns for citizens. They failed with fast and furious and got caught...The media will keep this sorry story going for a month. But if it was a black killing whites, all you hear is crickets chirping...They need a few more jerks on the supreme court for that to happen....they already ruled on guns and it was against gun control by the government...A while back the court ruled against stand your ground and you were told to just run away, ie: retreat...


35 posted on 12/16/2012 2:38:06 PM PST by goat granny
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To: nevermorelenore

“I’d like to discuss how to ban Holder in a responsible way....”
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I just want to ban him from doing a few things like, oh, let’s see, serving in any kind of government office, elected or otherwise, traveling more than the width of his jail cell, drinking anything other than water, eating anything other than bread. That should just about do it.


36 posted on 12/16/2012 5:38:23 PM PST by RipSawyer (I was born on Earth, what planet is this?)
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