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Boehner caves on taxes(the GOP will get nothing and we will get higher taxes now or later)
am thinker ^ | 12/16/12 | r moran

Posted on 12/16/2012 7:57:20 AM PST by bestintxas

It's only a "partial" cave, in that Boehner agrees that the tax rates should go up on those making more than $1 million rather than $250,000 a year.

But if Boehner caves on taxes, who can believe him when it comes to any other red line Obama will try and force him to cross.

Associated Press:

Signaling new movement in "fiscal cliff" talks, House Speaker John Boehner has proposed raising the top rate for earners making more than $1 million, a person familiar with the negotiations said. President Barack Obama, who wants higher top rates for households earning more than $250,000, has not accepted the offer, this person said.

The proposal, however, indicated progress in talks that had appeared stalled. The person would only discuss the plan on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the negotiations.

As part of a broader budget deal, Boehner is still seeking more spending cuts than Obama has proposed, particularly in mandatory health care spending. Boehner has asked for a long-term increase in eligibility age for Medicare and for lower costs-of-living adjustments for Social Security.

Boehner's tax proposal was first reported by Politico.

A Boehner aide would not comment on the report.

At issue are expiring tax rates that would automatically increase on Jan. 1 for virtually every income tax payer if Congress and the president don't act. Steep budget cuts are also scheduled to kick in, unless Congress and Obama agree to forestall them with other deficit reduction measures.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


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To: Gadsden1st

We won’t be creating a 3rd party.

We will be creating a second one.


51 posted on 12/16/2012 10:10:15 AM PST by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: bestintxas
We had a choice.

  1. Limit spending increases (not cuts) and keep taxes neutral.
  2. Increase spending and raising taxes
Neither of these choices would have solved our fiscal dilemna. However, one of these choices will guarantee our more rapid downfall. The choice for option 2 was celebrated on Nov 6th.
52 posted on 12/16/2012 10:12:47 AM PST by douginthearmy
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To: bestintxas

Why not let the budget cuts and tax increases occur? We obviously don’t have the money to pay for the benifits anyways? After the cuts and tax increases take affect, start negotiating any increases or tax cuts at the new spending level and tax levels. Cap those increases at the rate of inflation.


53 posted on 12/16/2012 10:42:47 AM PST by Fpimentel
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To: bestintxas

I’d prefer a rise to 37% to 39.6%.


54 posted on 12/16/2012 10:45:43 AM PST by Ted Grant
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To: bestintxas

Who didn’t see this coming?


55 posted on 12/16/2012 11:07:45 AM PST by 21st Century Crusader (August 26, 1191)
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To: bestintxas

Who didn’t see this coming?


56 posted on 12/16/2012 11:07:52 AM PST by 21st Century Crusader (August 26, 1191)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
“BOEHNER IS NOT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY!”

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Um...yes he is. Boehner is a liberal. The dominant forces in the party are all liberal. Conservatives aren't welcome and haven't been since at least Reagan.

57 posted on 12/16/2012 11:42:49 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: bestintxas

I’m not surpised that Bawlin’ Boehner caved.

He’s a linguini-spined GOP-e - caving to the left (so they won’t be mad) is what the GOP-e does.

Under the circumstances, I believe that the Congress has made itself irrelevant. What’s the point if a socialist totalitarian is going to get whatever hge wants, regardless of whether the Congress agrees?


58 posted on 12/16/2012 11:56:32 AM PST by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for anti-American criminals!!)
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To: fatnotlazy

You’ve got that right. Republicans cave a little here, a little there and pretty soon the democrats have all they want and need then tell the pubc to take a flying leap.


59 posted on 12/16/2012 2:13:45 PM PST by tillacum
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To: fatnotlazy
The dominant forces in the party are all liberal.

Well the "dominant forces" need to be taken out in two years at the next election, and in large enough numbers to make them back-benchers.

This is doable. Starting a 54th "third party" IS NOT!

Until then, they need to be pressured, embarrassed at townhall meetings, twittered against, criticized on conservative radio, ads run, naming them, harping against their positions...everything.

60 posted on 12/16/2012 2:55:43 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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To: Founding Father
Seriously, do you think there is any real difference in the parties?

Hell yes!

The GOP House caucus has a bunch of TEAparty people in it...and some RINOs. The RINOs vote with the RATs at times.

The RAT caucus is entirely a progressive (communist) voting bloc. They never vote anything but RAT on fiscal and social issues.

Do I think there's any difference between the RATs and the RINOs? Not really.

61 posted on 12/16/2012 3:06:47 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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To: Behind the Blue Wall

“This isn’t a cave, come on. Raising the tax rate on people making more than $1 million a year means nothing”

Of course you must be remembering that when FDR started Social Security with 53,000 recipients in its first year it would never go up, right.

PS - there are now 60,000,000 beneficiaries


62 posted on 12/16/2012 4:02:35 PM PST by bestintxas (Anyone who votes for Obama after these 4 miserable years needs to take a mandatory citizenship test.)
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To: bestintxas

Boehner did not invent the progressive income tax.


63 posted on 12/16/2012 4:24:25 PM PST by Behind the Blue Wall
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Well, good luck with that. Of course, this is all probably moot since I expect Congress to be dissolved or reduced to a rubber stamp for the dictator.


64 posted on 12/16/2012 4:31:10 PM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
The GOP House caucus has a bunch of TEAparty people in it.

Ha, ha you've been fooled. Count the number of reps who do NOT vote for boner to be speaker in January and get back to me with that number. Prediction, it will be ZERO.

65 posted on 12/16/2012 6:28:35 PM PST by Founding Father (The Pedophile moHAMmudd (PBUH---Pigblood be upon him))
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To: Founding Father

Who’s running against him?


66 posted on 12/16/2012 7:34:28 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Anyone a republican nominates. No one will nominate someone to run against him.


67 posted on 12/19/2012 12:22:31 PM PST by Founding Father (The Pedophile moHAMmudd (PBUH---Pigblood be upon him))
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To: Founding Father
No one will nominate someone to run against him.

Well, now that doesn't seem to be the case. There may be several stepping forward.

68 posted on 12/21/2012 9:31:09 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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