Skip to comments.Revealed: Connecticut school gunman's 'survivalist' mother was obsessed with guns[...]
Posted on 12/16/2012 9:40:41 AM PST by Feline_AIDS
The mother of Newtown school massacre gunman Adam Lanza was a survivalist who was stockpiling food because she thought the world economy was on the verge of collapse.
Nancy Lanza began hoarding such items because she feared that the financial crisis was going to bring about the end of civilized society.
She reportedly became 'obsessed' with guns and taught Adam how to shoot, but on Friday he turned on her and blasted the woman to death while she laid in her own bed.
Law enforcement sources told the Hartford Courant that she had not gotten up - and could have even been asleep - when her son killed her.
The killer's aunt said Nanzy Lanza was 'self-reliant.'
Speaking from her home near Chicago, Marsha Lanza, 57, said: 'She was stockpiling food. We talked about prepping a lot. She was getting ready for the economic collapse.
'I think she had the guns for self-defense because she lived alone.'
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
How’s that Hope and Change working out for everyone?
When people have children with mental health issues they should not be so armed. It is not a rights issue but common sense.
“The killer’s aunt said Nanzy Lanza was ‘self-reliant.’ “
To the tune of $240K/yr. in alimony.
Well...looks like this will now be a sure fire thing to be on the “watch list.”
Now, the Liberal Media and Liberal Politicians will go after “Preppers”
Adam Lanza was severely mentally ill. Stop giving Ethnic Group/Protected Class/Special Rights to the mentally ill...and less of these tragedies...and crime...will happen
Well here we go....they’ve got their link. Self-reliance will be considered “anti-social” and therefore a crime in the socialist government of the formerly free USA that was brought to greatness by self-reliant people.
and their loyal fellow MSM employees are using (taking advantage of) these shootings to help them disarm the citizens. Their steadfast refusal to deal with causes and instead focus entirely on getting rid of guns is like they "arrange" the shootings IMO.
“Prepper Madness”...soon coming to a theater near you...
Yep, Obama’s fault. Using Leftist logic, its the only possbile conclusion.
You, sir or madame, are full of crap. That murderous little brad should have been locked up in and asylum. Those kind of mental health "issues" should not be loosed upon society. Unfortunately, asylums for the insane have fallen out of fashion due to those like you who want all of society to bend to the lunatics instead of the insane being cared for in a secure environment.
I tend to agree with you, but I’ve been criticized for making similar statements. If you’ve got a dangerous nut in the house, I think it should be treated the same as if someone in the house is a felon. The other members of the household should have to store their guns off the premises and in a manner such that the nut can’t get to them easily.
I really don’t like it any more than anyone else, but when the common thread in many of these incidents seems to be a known psycho getting their hands on a gun far too easily. Unfortunately, I think this is at least one step we’re going to have to strongly consider.
I respectfully disagree. I believe that they have just as much of a right to be armed as anyone else, however, they should not let their children, especially those who are mentally ill, around any of the weapons.
“You, sir or madame, are full of crap. That murderous little brad should have been locked up in and asylum. Those kind of mental health “issues” should not be loosed upon society. Unfortunately, asylums for the insane have fallen out of fashion due to those like you who want all of society to bend to the lunatics instead of the insane being cared for in a secure environment.”
Calm down and read your own post. Our current culture would not lock him up in jail or asylum until he did something heinous; therefore, it is incumbent on the person with whom he lives to not provide him the means to do what he did. Her obligation when she kept him under her roof is to keep the environment safe.
Consider whatever you want. I'll not lock up or unload my firearms. If that makes me a criminal, so be it.
By making the guns readily accessible, maybe she was hoping he would end her pain and suffering and shoot himself?
Does that include PTSD?
“By making the guns readily accessible, maybe she was hoping he would end her pain and suffering and shoot himself?”
As dark as that sounds, I know parents of mentally ill and dangerous children who think that.
Thank you for bringing some needed clarity to this increasing problem.
If we allow a law to be passed that forbids gun ownership for people who live with a suspected mentally ill person, it would only be a matter of time before the Government expanded the definition of crazy to include Preppers, Truthers, Birthers, Ultra Conservatives...
??? Either I missed it or we read different articles, but where does it say she made them readily accessible?
It says she taught him about guns and how to shoot etc., but the money quote I saw said:
“She added that Nanza was meticulous and would ‘never leave the guns out.’ “
This kid could have threatened his mother to open the “locked cabinet” so he could get access. A locked gun case is no guarantee.
Where in this strange hit piece on the mom does anyone state the dead Mom was obsessed with guns?
The writer and headline writer peddle that lie/phony angle !
The father ran away from his son and her and left her to handle the situation !
The guy lived 50 miles away and last saw the kid in June !
Thanks to the ACLU and lib therapists it is impossible to get someone involuntarily committed before they do something like this !
The courts and judges let the mentally ill run wild and there families are powerless !
Articles I have read was he shot her in her sleep...
What the media is doing is trying to focus attention and blame on everyone and thing except the individual who did the killing. Sometime in the near future, they will begin including all legitimate gun owners,Republicans, Fundlemental Christians in their guilt by association.
“If we allow a law to be passed that forbids gun ownership for people who live with a suspected mentally ill person, it would only be a matter of time before the Government expanded the definition of crazy to include Preppers, Truthers, Birthers, Ultra Conservatives..”
It is not about more gun laws. We need to address our mental health issues in this country; but she should have used common sense, you know that thing about self-regulation, and not had weapons in her house or not had her son in her house.
You are so right. MENTAL HEALTH is the real issue here.
The real common thread with all the school shootings is young men with mental health issues.
We need to be asking the question of how society can better help these young men. Drugging them and letting them spend hours alone with video games is not the answer. Parents of these troubled young men need help to find ways to mainstream them or there need to be places where they can be housed and learn to do physical labor. Something needs to be done! This issue needs to be talked about.
Instead, once again media, politicals and educators talk about guns.
Not surprised. He clearly didn’t want any interference in his plan.
Oh, it's about common sense, is it? Where have I heard that phrase before?
O.K. Who gets to define common sense? Who gets to define what are considered "mental health issues"?
Don't be a useful idiot and advocate going down that path.
The ACLU and lawyers and mental Health experts prevent follies from
Locking anyone up ! They closed all the facilities and its impossible to
Get anyone involuntarily locked up .
The police and jail do not allow this unless they do something dangerous !
If she truly was meticulous and never left the guns out, he never would have gained access to her gun safe. Remember, he tried to buy his own rifle a week earlier, but was denied. She had to have given him access to the guns. Once he had access, he shot her dead. How many mothers could ever believe their son or daughter was capable of murder?
my question is, why would anyone take a mentally ill person to a gun range and hand them a gun?
In Jonestown, Guyana, a socialist killed hundreds of people, including many children, with a fruit-flavored drink. Should we outlaw liquids? We should outlaw socialism. It always leads to crazies who want to own the world.
We are used to easy answers. Just type a question into the computer and you receive a fast answer. There is no fast and easy answer for why this guy did this. There are no fast and easy answers to prevent things like this from happening. Anyone who stands up and says they have an easy answer is a liar or an idiot, and probably both.
I agree with you to a degree, but note in the article it says he then took the car keys and car to go to the school.
Even if the guns had been stored offsite, if he was this intent, it would not have mattered.
Somewhere this “brilliant” kid had a plot and a plan...
Law enforcement needs to find it. They say he was a computer geek of sorts...well where is all the chatter about what’s on the computer?
self-reliant...yeah, I had to chuckle at that too!
Couldn’t tell you that for sure. I don’t whether a person with PTSD has a high propensity for violent outbursts.
I’m not saying it should be applied to everyone who has ever had a mental health issue by any means. But when someone is clearly disturbed and has shown an inclination towards violence, or their diagnosis is one with a high propensity to that end, yeah, it may be time to consider it.
This aunt must be the same goofy one I saw on TV yesterday.
Should be common sense but not something “we should consider”. Who is the “we”? The government?
Or maybe he killed her to get access?
How many mothers could ever believe their son or daughter was capable of murder?
My mother could and my dad could. And I believed my brother would one day kill me, until he finally was killed by the police in a “suicide by cop” scenario.
And yes, we all lived with guns in our possession. My parents at times with giving shelter to their dangerous son. Life and situations happen. There were many times I thought my parents fools, but if my brother had decided to go on a rampage in their home the only thing that would have stopped him would have been a gun.
And in the end it is what stopped him.
Now as far as the gun safe is concerned ...you make it sound like she handed him the key or combo. Or like the kid knew where to get it or find it. We don’t know that, yet. And to me, since he tried to buy a gun a week earlier ...seems to indicate he did not have ready access. So he schemed, spyed, etc. to gain access.
Million dollar question...
That is something I don’t understand in this scenario.
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