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Report: Connecticut Shooting Was Revenge Killing
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Posted on 12/16/2012 10:12:03 AM PST by chessplayer

Chief Connecticut Medical Examiner H. Wayne Carver has released the names of those killed by 20-year-old Adam Lanza on December 14. Besides proving anew that the lives of far too many innocent people were taken by a cold blooded criminal, the report suggests that the killings were carried out in an act of revenge.

According to the report, Lanza shot the 20 child victims -- eight boys and 12 girls -- at close range and shot each victim between three and eleven times.

Other reports indicate that Lanza "visited Sandy Hook Elementary the day before [the shooting] and was involved in an altercation with four members of the staff of the school." Three of those four are now dead.

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1 posted on 12/16/2012 10:12:13 AM PST by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

Sad lesson....LE should have been notified.


2 posted on 12/16/2012 10:16:45 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: chessplayer

You have a loner, who is into Goth which promotes death and torture among other very dark topics, a single parent, and more than likely on psychotropic drugs prescribed by a psychiatrist and there is your recipe for this disaster.

Go back and look at some of the school shooting in the past. The perpetrators were on prescription medicine.

Instead of banning guns we need to ban the over prescribing of drugs to our youth. Also if your going to be a parent accept the job of raising your children properly.


3 posted on 12/16/2012 10:21:01 AM PST by doc
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To: chessplayer
Other reports indicate that Lanza "visited Sandy Hook Elementary the day before [the shooting] and was involved in an altercation with four members of the staff of the school." Three of those four are now dead.

Any speculation as to why he might have GONE to the school the day before? Most adults (who aren't teachers) have had more than enough exposure to small kids by just raising their own.

4 posted on 12/16/2012 10:25:51 AM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: chessplayer

The only reason he could have shot each victim between three and eleven times is because schools are “gun free” zones for law-abiding citizens.


5 posted on 12/16/2012 10:30:42 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the state." - Cornelius Tacitus, Roman Senator)
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maybe he was caught in the school because he was trying to plant the weapons or he had a grudge against one the staff from when he went to school there as a child.


6 posted on 12/16/2012 10:30:50 AM PST by snowstorm12
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To: doc

That just makes too much common sense, like teachers or Admin at publik skools being armed, to ever be accepted by Pols, MSM or bamaClaus voters.

The dems and their willing MSM are playing this as an opportunity to go after guns. Everyone needs to remember they concern is not the poor little kids, its about CONTROL and liberal/progressive control can not be had while a lot of the citizens are armed.


7 posted on 12/16/2012 10:31:03 AM PST by X-spurt (Ted Cruz for President of the Republic of Texas)
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To: chessplayer

This 20 year old was a high school student before his mother pulled him out of school. So why go back to the elementary school ?


8 posted on 12/16/2012 10:31:06 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: chessplayer

Quick, before the actual facts become known, let’s take away everybody’s guns.


9 posted on 12/16/2012 10:32:42 AM PST by Redmen4ever
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To: doc
Instead of banning guns we need to ban the over prescribing of drugs to our youth.

Lock up the criminally insane. If they are not going to be held legally accountable for their actions when they flip out (i.e., stop PASSING for normal because of medication), they need to have a legal guardian watching over them at all times (leg monitoring bracelet and the whole nine yards).

10 posted on 12/16/2012 10:35:00 AM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: chessplayer

This story is too wacky. What makes more sense is that we are not getting the truth from the media- OR that they have no idea what they are talking about.

http://beforeitsnews.com/economics-and-politics/2012/12/2-mass-shootings-connected-to-libor-2447738.html

I am watching to see what this story brings out.


11 posted on 12/16/2012 10:35:04 AM PST by Truth2012
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To: Redmen4ever

spot on


12 posted on 12/16/2012 10:37:31 AM PST by ZinGirl (kids in college....can't afford a tagline right now)
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To: Sooth2222
Most adults (who aren't teachers) have had more than enough exposure to small kids by just raising their own.

I sure don't feel that way at all. What is it with this steady sarcasm here that having and raising children is something most would rather not do?

and on a conservative site?

I love children..their delicate senses and loyalty and love...all of which makes this all the more poignant

I am really tired of some of the BS I see here posted by folks about having children.

13 posted on 12/16/2012 10:40:54 AM PST by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: doc

Soooo, should there be drug recall or even a prescription stoppage? Or are pharmaceuticals covered by ALL side effects revealed, including suicidal and violence tendencies? Pharmaceutical’s are covered, its called “statement of limitations”.


14 posted on 12/16/2012 10:41:52 AM PST by existentially_kuffer
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To: chessplayer

Gosh....if we could only outlaw feelings.


15 posted on 12/16/2012 10:49:42 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Truth2012

strange link


16 posted on 12/16/2012 10:52:53 AM PST by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: Truth2012

bump for LIBOR investigation


17 posted on 12/16/2012 10:53:07 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: doc
'Instead of banning guns we need to ban the over prescribing of drugs to our youth'

The drugs is only a symptom of a larger problem. Why are they prescribing such medication, and why to so many younger children? What has changed? Environmental? Drugs?

White kids do mass school shootings and black kids kill each other with guns in the streets? Simplistic answer?

18 posted on 12/16/2012 10:54:38 AM PST by Theoria (Romney is a Pyrrhic victory.)
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To: doc

I’m Goth, as a teen, in my 20s and now into my married 30s.

There are many things that promote death and torture. And many people will take any kind of hobby or style and take it to extremes.

Are there Goth-styled kids and adults who promote death ? Sure. But that’s not Goth.

My interaction with the concept of death is respect and reverence for life. And that’s a core value of those who interact with it. Dark topics to be thought of and worked out, head-on.

I have interacted with car guys, bikers, even model train builders with some macabre outlooks on things. I only ask those I can ask, to not call this guy Goth, or implicate Goth culture as reason d’etre in events such as this.


19 posted on 12/16/2012 10:55:00 AM PST by Celerity
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To: Truth2012

The “media” runs their mouths non-stop about anything on and on; analyzing every tiny aspect, analyzing the perpetrator, analyzing the victims. All that “media” attention is what a lot of these guys are after; and the less of it they get the better. - I hesitate to ascribe such things to the judgment of God; but, frankly, I wouldn’t be surprised. They’ve relegated God out of the schools. Abortion they have wanted; and abortion they’ve been getting, may they get enough of it to make them puke.


20 posted on 12/16/2012 10:58:10 AM PST by Twinkie (The wicked walk on every side when evil men are exalted. Psalm 12:8)
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To: chessplayer

Was he romantically interested in one of the teachers and rejected in that process? So, he not only kills her, but all of her students as well. Islam would say that since he killed Americans, he should get his 72 virgins in “heaven”. Haven’t heard the Muslims living her condemning these kills nor the media pointing out they haven’t said a word. Interesting.


21 posted on 12/16/2012 11:05:21 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: chessplayer

So, have we learned yet why he was at the school the day before?

Original report was that he had a kid at the school, but that might have been eroneous, just like the name was wrong and the story of the mother being at school was wrong.

But there must have been some reason he was at the school arguing with the principle and other teachers.

Did he have a kid at the school?


22 posted on 12/16/2012 11:06:00 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: chessplayer
Yea, we're being spooned this revenge/rage story but provided no details of the altercation or an explanation of why someone who supposedly was incapable of feeling pain or emotion would seek revenge.

Whereas, there are numerous reports consistent with his inability to express emotion.

23 posted on 12/16/2012 11:06:18 AM PST by Errant
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To: X-spurt

I want to know why the left trusts public school teachers to be around our kids all day, to teach them all their life lessons, and praises them for their hard work and dedication, but then won’t trust them with a gun?

Why would a trained school teacher be less trustworthy with a gun than a police officer?

It’s not like we are asking them to arrest people, we just feel bad that the poor teacher who is a hero has to put their body in front of a shooter and get killed, rather than having the choice of pulling a gun out and defending herself.


24 posted on 12/16/2012 11:10:13 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: justa-hairyape

Maybe the elementary school was closer to his home. Another factor perhaps: far less adult male presence in an elementary school than a high school.


25 posted on 12/16/2012 11:12:19 AM PST by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: chessplayer

“visited Sandy Hook Elementary the day before [the shooting] and was involved in an altercation with four members of the staff “

Did the school call the cops? Report the incident? Seems like an automatic thing to do.


26 posted on 12/16/2012 11:12:51 AM PST by y6162
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To: CharlesWayneCT

“It’s not like we are asking them to arrest people, we just feel bad that the poor teacher who is a hero has to put their body in front of a shooter and get killed, rather than having the choice of pulling a gun out and defending herself.”

The left prefers dead martyrs to live heroes.

I wish she’d had the choice to be the latter, instead.


27 posted on 12/16/2012 11:13:57 AM PST by Salamander (If animals could speak, mankind would weep.)
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To: Truth2012

The buzz I’m kind of hearing goes like this:

The gov is broke, the creditors are demanding payment.
One of the greatest “sources” of capital is the collected 401(k)s of the people.

Gov is planning to basically seize the 401(k)s and turn it over to the bankers and replace it with something like a coupon system, in a sense like SS.

BUT!!!

There is this little gun problem thingie...


28 posted on 12/16/2012 11:15:26 AM PST by djf (Conservative values help the poor. Liberal values help them STAY poor!!!)
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To: Redmen4ever

“Quick, before the actual facts become known, let’s take away everybody’s guns.”

Exactly. The MSM can focus the attention of the Low Information Voter on a tragedy long enough for enemy politicians to take action before anything resembling objective truth can spoil things.


29 posted on 12/16/2012 11:16:40 AM PST by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: Errant
Gunman had "altercation" with school staff day before massacre

The questions I have:
1. How big of an altercation?
2. If it was with 4 people, sounds substantial enough for a red flag and the police to be notified.
3. Did it require 4 people to come together in order to force him to leave the school the day before?
4. Were the police notified and did they follow up?
5. If the police were not notified, why not?

Also the police chief said the school was a very secure school.
The insane bastard supposedly shot through the door and shattered the glass in order to get in.
Probably regular shatter proof glass, not even ballistic glass and no metal bars.
This was not secure, just the illusion of security.
An electrical lock on a regular glass door to be *Buzzed* in, that in reality was their only security.
Apparently mostly women in the school with no means to defend themselves or the children, again, how was this security.

Everybody is running around talking about guns and insanity, but nobody is really looking at how really insecure the school was and perhaps a breakdown in procedure the day before.

30 posted on 12/16/2012 11:31:31 AM PST by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: Truth2012

I’m with you! My gosh, we’ve had reports ranging from he had a child in the school, his mom worked there, he killed her at the school, he killed his dad etc etc.

It does ONE thing, imho, brings this poor sad vile soul front and center - what do ALL these senseless shootings have in common other than we all know the name of the sick and twisted, but other than Gabby Giffords, can’t name the victims!

Our sad excuse for a media is on some mind altering ego trip.


31 posted on 12/16/2012 11:34:18 AM PST by AllAmericanGirl44 (Fluck this adminstration of misfits.)
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To: Errant

Exactly, I don’t buy this story.

The kid tried buying a gun a full week earlier.


32 posted on 12/16/2012 11:38:31 AM PST by EBH (0bama is guilty of willful neglect of duty.)
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To: CaptainK

But he had an altercation at the Elementary school two days before he shot up the place. Why was he there for the altercation ? Was he seeing the school psychologist about current or past issues ? Why would he not go to the High School he used to be attending ? Almost as if he was acting on some past experience.


33 posted on 12/16/2012 11:39:26 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: doc
He's one of those "goth" dorks? Good God..."South Park" said it best:


34 posted on 12/16/2012 11:40:05 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Sooth2222

Good question. News articles haven’t addressed yet WHY he went the day before. It’s a K-4 school.


35 posted on 12/16/2012 11:42:03 AM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline, (it's back). 2008, the Decline of America)
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To: djf

I pray that I am just freaking out and I don’t understand what I see. I pray I am an alarmist... and even a kook!

Being a nit would be easier to live with, actually.

I just don’t think it is as sweet an innocent as paying back our debtors.

This is the fundamental change, in our rights and freedoms, that people voted for.

It appears to me that we are screwed and they have the federal government, control over business and commerce- media, education, local government (agenda 21 and Common Core Standards) , the world byway of the UN, control of technology and banking- and the all of the toys of the US military.

I am trying to figure out if they really care that some have guns.

These are strange days. I don’t see any push back on them.


36 posted on 12/16/2012 11:42:55 AM PST by Truth2012
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To: The Cajun
Another FReeper pointed out to me that Lanza tried to buy a rifle before the altercation at the school. If I understand the sequence it goes like this:

1. Lanza tried to buy a gun before the altercation at the school, but he failed to get one.
2. He went to the school and had an altercation.
3. He returned to the school and carried out the murders.

37 posted on 12/16/2012 11:44:36 AM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: djf
Not just 401k’s that they are after. Also coming for gold. A Texas Cash for Gold store owner was just shot and killed by police. Apparently there was suspicion that they had failed to report some gold purchases. So instead of properly investigating the facility, the police entered unannounced with guns drawn. A little out of control for a paper work problem.
38 posted on 12/16/2012 11:45:27 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: Truth2012

I’m wondering if the report you linked is true, that two of the mass-shooter types parents were connected to Libor.

The reason I really wonder is because what if you add in the kids who were murdered by the nanny, the kids who were the children of the reporter (or bureau chief) of the news outfit that was going to report on the scandal.

I know the banks and financial institutions are powerful, but I never gave much credence to the whole New World Order tin-foil stuff.

Maybe it’s time.


39 posted on 12/16/2012 11:49:04 AM PST by djf (Conservative values help the poor. Liberal values help them STAY poor!!!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

What say we institute BRISTLE ZONES complete with signage...

‘CAUTION WACKED OUT WOULD-BE KILLER/MISCREANTS, YOU ARE NOW ENTERING A ‘BRISTLE ZONE’ WE BRISTLE WITH OFFENSIVE WEAPONRY AND WE’RE ITCHING TO USE THEM ALL ON YOU.... HAVE A NICE DAY....OR... NOT’

(I AGREE WE’D HAVE TO DUMB DOWN THE LANGUAGE FOR THE KNOT HEADS BUT YOU GET THE IDEA)


40 posted on 12/16/2012 11:56:07 AM PST by jimsin
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To: AllAmericanGirl44

It’s almost like they where running to the live feed with anything they thought might be true trying to get ahead of the other 24/7 new sources...

Na...

If i was the brother I’d be talking to lawyers about suing the hell out of the news channels that named him as the shooter.


41 posted on 12/16/2012 12:01:56 PM PST by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: wardaddy

Thank you. You cannot have an aversion to children and be a decent human being, let alone a conservative.


42 posted on 12/16/2012 12:04:24 PM PST by wideawake
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To: snowstorm12

He had attempted his gun purchase before this altercation, so I think the altercation was not the beginning of what he was up to.

I don’t understand why the police don’t report more of what they know around this, given that the one suspect is dead.


43 posted on 12/16/2012 12:09:49 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: a fool in paradise
We also have a lack of FATHERING today.. No discipline of kids. No teaching them RESPECT, honor, dignity or what COWARDICE is. Andy committed the most cowardly act known to man; The killing of children.. No fathers in the homes, or in the schools or in daycare. Boys raised in a 100% estrogen environment are going to be F'ed up in the head. There are exceptions but I bet this boy had no FATHERING in his life. THAT is the problem with boys today. The ones who do progress with no problems end up emasculated basket cases. BOYS NEED FATHERS OR FATHER FIGURES. Girls do too but girls are generally not predisposed to violence. "Cry for love".. Well, mock it if you wish but that is the problem here, and it's epidemic in the black community too.

DISCIPLINE/SELF-CONTROL is absolutely necessary in a boy's life with a MAN/FATHER as the role model and it must start at an EARLY age or it's counterproductive. Banning guns does NOT solve the problem of lack of self-control and violence of boys or adolescent males.

44 posted on 12/16/2012 12:10:37 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: Truth2012

You do see the fact that we are screwed, and America is being fundamentally transformed. Just add that the Muslim Brotherhood is operating in the state department and throughout the ME, and Obamacare will declare guns a health risk and demand a $10k fee for each one as a condition of insurance. They will secretly see to it that few rebels get a chance to use them until it is too late.


45 posted on 12/16/2012 12:11:21 PM PST by charlie72
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To: doc

We don’t have all the facts but it could be the opposite. The guy may not have been doing what the doctor recommended including taking prescribed meds.


46 posted on 12/16/2012 12:11:24 PM PST by plain talk
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To: Sooth2222

What if he was supposed to be at that meeting???


47 posted on 12/16/2012 12:13:34 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: 9YearLurker
I don’t understand why the police don’t report more of what they know around this, given that the one suspect is dead.

Maybe the police had a report of the altercation and they didn't follow up on it.
Just one of many possibilities.

48 posted on 12/16/2012 12:15:22 PM PST by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: chessplayer

It’s lone wolf terrorism.....leading up to a Christian holiday. Islamic extremists have stated time and time again that there WILL BE attacks. People with non-arabic names who will attack defenseless sitting ducks.
These mentally ill men in their twenties hook up with extremists over the internet. It gives them a sense of belonging and an EXCUSE to act on their violent tendencies for “a cause”. They are caught hook, line and sinker by extremists who are great at manipulation and mind control.

IF investigators DID FIND evidence that these mentally ill lone wolves were in ANY WAY in contact with extremists, we would NEVER be told.

Look at all the lies about Bengazi....terrorism doesn’t fit the Democratic agenda. It would also cause mass panic if the public knew the truth and would make the Obama administration look worthless at protecting U.S. citizens.

I can see one attack happening before Christmas wouldn’t exactly mean terrorism, but TWO?

Give me a break!

Look at the Trolly Square shooter....the poor screwed up boy from the Balkans.....google “Lanza” and see what you find in the Balkans.

Every school at this point should have ARMED GUARDS.
Bus drivers need to carry guns.

After all that’s happened, it’s STUPID not to be ready for anything and armed citizens are the ONLY WAY to stop these attacks.....not unarmed, sitting ducks and gun free zones.


49 posted on 12/16/2012 12:16:50 PM PST by doc maverick
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

A few years back there was a documentary about young male elephants redistributed to an area without bulls around. They became angry and unmanageable until several huge bulls were brought in to be models of behavior.


50 posted on 12/16/2012 12:18:09 PM PST by charlie72
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