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‘I am Adam Lanza’s mother’
Washington Post ^ | 12/16/12 | David Beard

Posted on 12/16/2012 10:32:32 AM PST by jimbo123

Edited on 12/16/2012 11:24:04 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

“I live with a son who is mentally ill. I love my son. But he terrifies me.’’


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1 posted on 12/16/2012 10:32:38 AM PST by jimbo123
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2 posted on 12/16/2012 10:36:14 AM PST by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: jimbo123

Asylums might need to be brought back


3 posted on 12/16/2012 10:37:01 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: jimbo123

“(God bless gay marriage, by the way—maybe FINALLY someone will bring some taste and style to the costuming of this silly ritual).”

From one of her other blog posts. This chick is more messed up than her kid.

Nice of WP to pick some obscure blog to divert attention and add to the confusion.


4 posted on 12/16/2012 10:40:19 AM PST by ILS21R (Everything is a conspiracy. No? You're living in one.)
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To: jimbo123

There are evil people in this world.

Some of them are very young.

It would be wise to defend yourself against them by arming and preparing for their inevitable assault.

It would not be wise to disarm.

Americans are under no obligation whatsoever to disarm.


5 posted on 12/16/2012 10:40:22 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: jimbo123

Does she realize what she is doing to her other children by having him in the house?


6 posted on 12/16/2012 10:41:05 AM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: GeronL

Which begs the question how do we fund them, Federal or State or Both, and how in G_d’s name do we start it with the dysfunctionality in Washington unwilling to re-invent any program, merge, cut or outright eliminate them? Especially Medicare, Medicaid, “Part D” SSI and or any other Department or Function?


7 posted on 12/16/2012 10:41:22 AM PST by taildragger (( Tighten the 5 point harness and brace for Impact Freepers, ya know it's coming..... ))
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To: jimbo123

Three step process to cure:

Exorcism

Castration (appears that the described case was based on heredity)

Lobotomy


8 posted on 12/16/2012 10:41:37 AM PST by PAR35
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To: GeronL

Other, wiser ones than myself, have noted that mass killings were non-existent prior to the closing of the asylums.


9 posted on 12/16/2012 10:41:57 AM PST by DugwayDuke
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To: jimbo123
Several weeks ago, The New York Times Magazine section ran a brilliant article on child psychopaths/sociopaths and the research that scientists, doctors and psychoanalysts are doing on them. They are trying to help them when they are very, very young to curb them from a life of violence.

In the article, there was no one mention of guns. But in today's NYTs, it's all about guns, guns, guns. Major disconnect at that newspaper.

10 posted on 12/16/2012 10:42:07 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: jimbo123

Why would you appoint Bill Clinton (who arguably has his own mental health issues) Czar of Mental Health? That’s just about the most worthless suggestion I’ve heard in this whold debacle.


11 posted on 12/16/2012 10:42:39 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: GeronL

They never should have been done away with.


12 posted on 12/16/2012 10:42:39 AM PST by Venturer
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To: jimbo123

Can’t we just pass a law that bans mental illness?


13 posted on 12/16/2012 10:44:19 AM PST by Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh (I cling to guns and religion.)
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To: DugwayDuke

Bath School Bombing, 1927, 38 kids killed, 44 total, not counting the bomber himself.


14 posted on 12/16/2012 10:45:19 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: jimbo123
Going to have to institutionalize some people. I know of a woman in Austin who called me about business on the phone. It became apparent very quickly that she was unstable to the max. Ended up in a three-way on the phone with the woman, her mom and myself. She told her mom that she the daugher) was"...God, you're not God." and some other things which I will not detail here, but would make the hair on the back of your neck stand up if you heard her say it the way she said it.

Told me her name was which was one name and after she removed herself from the call, her mom told me her real name was something else and that was just one personality she had adopted recently. Mom's tried to get her committed, but can't because the daughter is adult age and has to commit herself.

She is living in the general population, is a severe drug addict according to mom and is going to hurt/kill someone or herself before too long and the police department where she lives, although notified, can do nothing about it. Welcome to the United States of Stupid America.

15 posted on 12/16/2012 10:45:48 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: ILS21R

This chick is a single mom, too. Where’s the father?


16 posted on 12/16/2012 10:48:39 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

In the olden days (when I was a kid) a youn boy who acted like this would be spanked in public by any nearest parent

And most of the times I learned my lesson - and stopped doing it


17 posted on 12/16/2012 10:50:37 AM PST by Mr. K (some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help...)
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To: jimbo123
A few weeks ago, Michael pulled a knife and threatened to kill me and then himself after I asked him to return his overdue library books.

There was a good reason our ancestors built their houses with secure attic or basement rooms.

18 posted on 12/16/2012 10:51:19 AM PST by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: jimbo123

One of my cousins threatened to kill his mother repeatedly.


19 posted on 12/16/2012 10:51:24 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: kabumpo

Does she realize what she is doing to her other children by having him in the house?


Yeah, that was my thought too. I really feel for this woman. Commiting a loved one is a horrifying decision to make, kind of like “Sophie’s Choice”, but sometimes it has to be done. The alternative is that everyone loses.


20 posted on 12/16/2012 10:52:44 AM PST by rbg81
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To: jimbo123

Then why in hell didn’t she have her guns locked up where the kid could not get to them, knowing how unstable he was and has been for along time???


21 posted on 12/16/2012 10:52:59 AM PST by fish hawk (no tyrant can remain in power without the consent and cooperation of his victims.)
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To: PAR35

8:5 the little bastard was on or had been on RITALIN!


22 posted on 12/16/2012 10:53:12 AM PST by chooseascreennamepat (You can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: ILS21R

I may not agree with this woman’s politics or her take on gay marriage, but I sympathize wholeheartedly with the dilemma she faces and the terror she lives every day.

If you’ve never had a mentally ill family member, you simply can’t understand.

What this woman is saying is terrible truth.

We closed the asylums. We made the process of removing the dangerous from among us very very hard. They basically have to hurt someone and get the law involved before they are isolated from society.

Treatments are highly effective, but the mentally ill very often do not feel ill, and they won’t cooperate.

She has no where to turn.

Look at all the mass murders in recent years. How many times did friends and family know the perp was not “right,” yet our current system gives them virtually no tools to protect themselves and others.

I’ve read numerous suggestions that his mom should just have her son committed. Where? Who will take him? I can tell you she can get him admitted for evaluation and treatment, and it will last a few days at most, because he will either take meds that calm him down or, more likely, convince the shrinks that he’s OK.

Been there. Seen it firsthand.

Bless this poor woman, and so many other family members like her, and this sick society that wants to blame the victims rather than give them tools to protect us all.


23 posted on 12/16/2012 10:53:19 AM PST by Jedidah
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To: jimbo123
"This chick is a single mom, too. Where’s the father?"

He's out getting some other woman pregnant at this very moment.

24 posted on 12/16/2012 10:53:39 AM PST by Lockbar (Quality factory loaded ammunition ---- The New Gold)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Why would you appoint Bill Clinton (who arguably has his own mental health issues) Czar of Mental Health?

Is this the same Bill Clinton who raped Juanita Broaddrick and molested a young White House intern with a cigar?
25 posted on 12/16/2012 10:54:17 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: GeronL

Asylums are not politically correct, and the libs don’t care if political correctness kills us all! They’d rather blame it on lack of gun control.


26 posted on 12/16/2012 10:54:47 AM PST by 21st Century Crusader (August 26, 1191)
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To: jimbo123

This story is about a mother, who is not Adam Lanza’s mother, who has a hard time with her defiant kid.


27 posted on 12/16/2012 10:55:38 AM PST by golux
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To: jimbo123

From what she wrote, the father is somewhere nearby and mentally ill like the son.

Yes. It’s often genetic.


28 posted on 12/16/2012 10:56:18 AM PST by Jedidah
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To: jimbo123
WOW! That woman is a powerful writer! (I also read her blurb about her Vietnam vet Marine helicopter pilot father.)

And she is dead on target that the elimination of treatment centers for mental health (aka "insane asylums") is the root cause of tragedies like the Newtown massacre -- not inanimate objects like guns.

29 posted on 12/16/2012 10:57:18 AM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: jimbo123

The first problem is divorce and males being raised without any male influence in the household. Sometimes it works out okay, and other times it doesn’t, but it is never the ideal situation for young males. The next problem is a society that dodges the divorce dilemma by drugging young males in an attempt to control them. It is cheaper for schools to drug young males with prozac than it is for them to beef up security to avoid what just happened in Connecticut. And, of course, it is easier for politicians to demand gun control than it is for them to recognize the cultural nightmare that is going on. People need guns to defend themselves and their families from it.


30 posted on 12/16/2012 10:57:56 AM PST by pallis
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh

This would never have happened if that school was in a “mental illness” free zone. It was a gun free zone but I guess that didn’t work. (sarcasm)


31 posted on 12/16/2012 10:58:49 AM PST by fish hawk (no tyrant can remain in power without the consent and cooperation of his victims.)
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To: chris37

“Americans are under no obligation whatsoever to disarm.”

I was born with the God given right to be armed and no law can take that away.


32 posted on 12/16/2012 10:59:57 AM PST by chooseascreennamepat (You can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: fish hawk

This sort of reminds me of that scene from the M. Night Shyamalan movie “The Village” (2004):

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The crazy kid Noah runs out of the house wearing the bogeyman costume, pursing the (blind) heroine Ivy Walker, who is on a quest to find medicine outside the village to heal Lucius, her sweetheart whom Noah has knifed. Noah has found under the floorboards of a house the bogeyman costume, which Village elders wear when patrolling the perimeter of their small community, to frighten and keep curious youngsters within the town limits. The bogeyman costume serves as a sort of weapon (arms). The Village was created by the elders who were fleeing (armed) violence in the outside world; all of them had at least one loved one who was the victim of violent crime.


33 posted on 12/16/2012 11:01:13 AM PST by thecodont
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To: taildragger

“Which begs the question how do we fund them,”

The states were doing a good job of funding the state hospitals for the mentally ill until the federal judges turned almost everyone out on the street.


34 posted on 12/16/2012 11:06:48 AM PST by PAR35
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To: Jedidah

>>I may not agree with this woman’s politics or her take on gay marriage, but I sympathize wholeheartedly with the dilemma she faces and the terror she lives every day.<<

And it could be some WP writer with a blog making the whole thing up.

“The Anarchist Soccer Mom”

Sounds legit to me ;)


35 posted on 12/16/2012 11:07:56 AM PST by ILS21R (Everything is a conspiracy. No? You're living in one.)
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To: PAR35

“Three step process to cure:

Exorcism

Castration (appears that the described case was based on heredity)

Lobotomy”

Actually when Christ cast out demons the person was made whole....And whether people believe it or not there is such a thing..But not the Exorcist type where you fight with the devil....They were cast out immediately....Not knowing who we are in Christ and the devil knowing that also is what brings about the Exorcist type of ritual......Remember when the disciples came to Christ and said they could not cast out the devils and He said “Oh ye of little faith, how long shall I suffer you?”.....The Presence of The Holy Ghost is required and Christ walked with no sin and the constant infilling of the Spirit of God, thus the power to immediately cast out demons and people were made whole immediately....Just my two cents worth......

A side note...My brother is into withchcraft and is completely demon controlled and I do not have any contact with him at all...He actually cut my black cat’s leg trying to shave hair for a ritual and tried to frame me saying it was a result of my shaving my cats.....I DO NOT SHAVE THE LEGS...I have video of the wound to protect myself and my vet asserted that wound could not have been made with shears if you tried......He used a sharp razor while carving wood on a model plane......When I called him out on his lies he refused to admit the deed and tried to have ME put into the nut house....Stay away from Spiritually sick people even if it is family........He’s an ARMED guard which makes me wonder about not reporting him which would result in him losing his job, which would result in him projecting his hate on me even more so, which makes me wonder if he would actually come after me.....


36 posted on 12/16/2012 11:13:10 AM PST by 3722535r
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To: miss marmelstein

Read that. Excellent story.

Was this the one?

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/13/magazine/can-you-call-a-9-year-old-a-psychopath.html?_r=2&src=me&ref=general&pagewanted=all&;


37 posted on 12/16/2012 11:13:47 AM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline, (it's back). 2008, the Decline of America)
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To: pallis
“The first problem is divorce and males being raised without any male influence in the household. Sometimes it works out okay, and other times it doesn’t, but it is never the ideal situation for young males.”

I dad died when I was 14. But I was lucky, while I did give my mother grief, I went to work for a blind man and his wife and did TV repair with him. I lived with them for about 3 years. They acted as my family and kept me on the straight and narrow.

38 posted on 12/16/2012 11:15:04 AM PST by chooseascreennamepat (You can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Jedidah

Agreed. Society should support parents living this hell, but does not.


39 posted on 12/16/2012 11:18:36 AM PST by sgtyork (The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage. Thucydides)
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To: jimbo123

You’re being set up.

Aurora, Colo., a mostly quiet suburb east of Denver, is known for its middle class neighborhoods, sprawling area high schools and low violent crime rate, making it one of the safest places in the US to raise a family, according to national crime statistics.

Newtown, Connecticut: How ‘The Safest Place in America’ Became Tragedy Town

Read my tag and then start thinking for yourself.


40 posted on 12/16/2012 11:20:39 AM PST by ILS21R (Everything is a conspiracy. No? You're living in one.)
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To: golux

“I am sharing this story because I am Adam Lanza’s mother. I am Dylan Klebold’s and Eric Harris’s mother. I am Jason Holmes’s mother. I am Jared Loughner’s mother. I am Seung-Hui Cho’s mother. And these boys—and their mothers—need help. In the wake of another horrific national tragedy, it’s easy to talk about guns. But it’s time to talk about mental illness.”


41 posted on 12/16/2012 11:21:16 AM PST by golux
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To: 3722535r

There would be some who see his devil worship as just another religion so he is unlikely to lose his job because of it.

On a happier note I knew of a young lady who was completely into Satanism but when she was born again she became a different person. I remember seeing after her morning prayer and her face would literally glow! There is always hope.

Mel


42 posted on 12/16/2012 11:22:38 AM PST by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong....)
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To: DugwayDuke
Mass killings have been going on since the dawn of time. What you perceive is simply the constant repitition of a relatively small mass killing by several cable tv news channels.

Remember, simply because you werent there doesn't mean the past didn't happen!

43 posted on 12/16/2012 11:25:10 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: jimbo123

A bright kid. Bright boys with no adult male to guide them. This is a problem that is hundreds of years old. Read the story of Iccarus and Daedalus. It’s an allegory. Iccarus flies too high (seeks too much knowledge) and is killed. His father warned him. The bright ones see more horror and they have no one to help them deal with it. There is an old saying that there’s a fine line between genius and insanity, and it’s true. Bright young men see further and they see pain and suffering and without a strong male to guide them, they become frustrated. They also have all those teenage hormones and the energy of youth. In many ways, it’s the same problems and concerns we all see, but for them it’s more intense.


44 posted on 12/16/2012 11:28:31 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: 3722535r

Do you really shave your cats?

Why?


45 posted on 12/16/2012 11:29:42 AM PST by Jedidah
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To: miss marmelstein

If you’re ever somewhere with a ‘postie’ don’t drink or eat anything he or she offers you.


46 posted on 12/16/2012 11:31:07 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: fish hawk

Totally agree!!! good question...


47 posted on 12/16/2012 11:31:38 AM PST by FenderMan
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To: rbg81

Well, I wouldn’t compare it to Sophie’s choice, since that was a Satanic - and utterly specious - proposition that the Nazi officer put to her - he wasn’t going to spare one child, he simply wanted to degrade and humiliate her even more by making her “choose” which of her children was going to die.
In this situation, the disturbed child is so miserable that being institutionalized is not going to be significantly worse for him, but his absence from the home could mean the beginning of a normal life for the other two children.


48 posted on 12/16/2012 11:31:54 AM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Mr. K

In the olden days (when I was a kid) a youn boy who acted like this would be spanked in public by any nearest parent
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I did that...

Put them across my knee and laid on the the hand for a couple of swipes..

and now if the grandchildren need a spanking they get it on the spot too...

come and get me copper...

as for this kid...

the female who gave birth to him should be locked up for endangerment...

locking up the knives will be too late after hes stabbed one into his little brother...


49 posted on 12/16/2012 11:32:33 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: DugwayDuke

Not true. There was that young man in Texas who went to the top of a tower and picked people off below with a rifle - back in the early ‘60s.


50 posted on 12/16/2012 11:35:55 AM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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