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Police arrest man with 47 guns after threatening to kill at ANOTHER elementary school
Daily Mail ^ | December 16, 2012 | Meghan Keneally

Posted on 12/16/2012 3:18:57 PM PST by Pinkbell

Full Title Was: Police arrest man with 47 guns after threatening to 'kill as many people as possible' at ANOTHER elementary school at the SAME TIME as Connecticut massacre

An Indiana man with 47 guns and stocks of ammunition was arrested after threatening to go into a local elementary school and 'kill as many people as he could before police could stop him'.

Von Meyer, 60, was arrested on Friday after his wife called Cedar Lake police after he threatened to set her on fire and continue his violent spree by attacking a nearby elementary school.

The loaded threat came the same day that a young man killed 20 children and seven others in Newtown, Connecticut.

When police arrived at Meyer's home, they found 47 guns and ammunition, the sum of which cost more than $100,000.

'Through investigation, police learned that Meyer reportedly had a large number of weapons hidden throughout the two story historical home,' the report states.

The makes and models of the guns have not been released, but many of them were said to be historical collectors items.

Meyer allegedly said that he was going to light his wife on fire once she fell asleep. His plan didn't end there, however, as he set his sights on the Jane Ball Elementary School which is less than 1,000 feet away from his home.

The police report states that the school is easily accessed from Meyer's home by a series of trails and paths that cut through a wooded area.

Officials at Jane Ball School were notified, and they immediately took unspecified security measures.

The same happened at all local schools on Friday because of the threat, which was undoubtedly heightened as news rolled in of the shooting in Connecticut.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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What is going on? This is the third incident that was intended to occur on Friday. Here was the other:

A Bartlesville High School student is in custody on charges he plotted to bomb and shoot students at the campus auditorium on the same day that 28 people were shot and killed at an elementary school in Connecticut.

Police arrested 18-year-old Sammie Eaglebear Chavez at about 4:30 a.m. Friday after learning of the alleged plot Thursday.

An arrest affidavit says Chavez tried to convince other students to help him lure students into the auditorium, chain the doors shut and start shooting. The Tulsa World reports that authorities say Chavez threatened to kill students who didn't help.

The Bartlesville Examiner-Enterprise reports Chavez planned to detonate bombs at the doors as police arrived.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/15/oklahoma-teen-arrested-in-school-shooting-plot/#ixzz2FG8LE4eC

This inclues the mall in Portland, the loon who fired his gun 50 times in the air in a mall parking lot yesterday, and the two separate shootings in Alabama. I did a search and didn't see anything. I'll post a separate article on that.

1 posted on 12/16/2012 3:19:11 PM PST by Pinkbell
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To: Pinkbell

Manchurian candidates for a Reichstag fire? The man blamed for that turned out to be mentally retarded, IIRC.


2 posted on 12/16/2012 3:22:26 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: Pinkbell
What is going on?

I wonder if this end-of-the-world stuff next week has caused people who were on the ragged edge, to finally go over.

3 posted on 12/16/2012 3:25:48 PM PST by grobdriver
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To: Pinkbell

Dude has a serious knack for bad timing.


4 posted on 12/16/2012 3:25:53 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Pinkbell

Far, far too coincidental...this and all the other similar events over the last four years.


5 posted on 12/16/2012 3:27:52 PM PST by IrishPennant
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To: Pinkbell

Should be a law for a mandatory life sentence without parole for anyone making such threats.


6 posted on 12/16/2012 3:29:59 PM PST by From The Deer Stand
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To: grobdriver
I wonder if this end-of-the-world stuff next week...

Better not happen...I bought myself some cool tools for Christmas.

7 posted on 12/16/2012 3:30:40 PM PST by IrishPennant
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To: Pinkbell
I am not particularly religious, but I do believe that both good and evil are “life forces”. So many similar events in so short a period of time. I feel comfortable in saying Satan has a hand in all this.
8 posted on 12/16/2012 3:31:39 PM PST by Lockbar (Quality factory loaded ammunition ---- The New Gold)
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To: From The Deer Stand

Agreed. This idiot is a true gun “nut”. Hopefully he’ll enjoy several years in the can, and all of his $100K “collection” is melted down for scrap.


9 posted on 12/16/2012 3:33:51 PM PST by boop ("I need another Cutty Sark"-LBJ)
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To: grobdriver

That’s an interesting thought you’ve raised. Maybe....people can certainly be kooky, to put it mildly.

Personally, I would expect a rise in suicides, or even a mass suicide, but you never know.


10 posted on 12/16/2012 3:35:04 PM PST by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: grobdriver

Instead of going over the edge, I am trying to empty my liquor cabinet before 12/21/12.

Heaven forbid that someone gets a hold of my Laphroaig Quarter Cask.


11 posted on 12/16/2012 3:35:19 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: Pinkbell

People need to turn off the 24 hour cable news shows with the cool graphics and funeral dirges playing all day long and go out for a walk in the woods or something. I know a lot of people in the country are depressed that we’re going to have another four years of Obama but the copy cat BS is getting out of hand.


12 posted on 12/16/2012 3:35:26 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (It's not about the guns. It's about the control.)
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To: Admin Moderator

Why was the thread I posted on the Alabama shootings deleted?


13 posted on 12/16/2012 3:36:20 PM PST by Pinkbell
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To: Pinkbell
What is going on?

The Tipping Point IMO
14 posted on 12/16/2012 3:37:01 PM PST by NamVet71MP
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To: Pinkbell

Wall-to-wall media coverage, along with saturation internet talk, gives the nutters their chance at the limelight. Schools need to enlist some protection from the community to make sure these fools get their wish of getting their heads blown off if they they try something stupid.

Not to mention the Johnny Jihads that now see an opportunity to reek chaos so close to Christmas/Mayan Calendar End Times.


15 posted on 12/16/2012 3:39:01 PM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Once is random. Twice may be coincidence, or it may be enemy action.

When the 2nd plane hit the South Tower, did you doubt it was enemy action?

The Feds are making their move against gun owners.

16 posted on 12/16/2012 3:40:27 PM PST by backwoods-engineer ("Remember: Evil exists because good men don't kill the gov officials committing it." -- K. Hoffmann)
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To: Pinkbell
What is going on?

Winter and these holidays.

The combination makes a lot of people crazy, including me.

While I would never shoot anybody who was not a threat, I deal with the rest of it by becoming a hermit from November to May.

17 posted on 12/16/2012 3:40:47 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: VanDeKoik

24/7/365 media coverage is to blame, IMHO. It’s giving all those nuts a way to go out in a “blaze of glory”.


18 posted on 12/16/2012 3:48:40 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: elkfersupper
Get a light box--some people are much more susceptible to the short days and long nights than others. They are used a lot in Canada and Alaska, and in Russia. Cheap--you let the iight shine on you from an angle, the idea is that it should get into your eyes (peripherally) about a half hour a day. It goes to a primitive part of the brain.

A lot of the way you may feel has to do with our programming to go into a kind of hybernation. Think how grumpy a bear is in winter...

19 posted on 12/16/2012 3:51:13 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Pinkbell

These events are happening too often to be coincedence. Something is going on...I have a bad feeling that a a shooting is going to happen that so sickens the nation that the public “demands” Obama do something drastic. If it’s not this it will be something similar I have a horrible feeling that Obama’s Inaguaration speech is going to be the Marial Law/end of the Republic order that many have feared. I pray I am wrong.


20 posted on 12/16/2012 3:51:19 PM PST by jakerobins
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To: Pinkbell
“What is going on? This is the third incident that was intended to occur on Friday.”

I'm going to say this for a possibility: It is five days until Dec. 21. I'm reading reports from all over the world of people having strange behavior as they think the end of the world is coming on that date.

Even in China, people are throwing their belongings away, saying they won't need them, giving their money away or buying goods with that money that they have always wanted, thinking it doesn't matter now to spend all their money buying something they wanted.

People are going up certain mountains in the world, one in France, of course Mexico near Cancun where a Mayan pyramid is, and other mountains thought to be “holy”.

Are we going to see more strange behavior from now until after Dec. 21? Could these people who are acting out with guns, think it doesn't matter now, they can do what they want?

21 posted on 12/16/2012 3:54:24 PM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Galt is freedom.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

I think you’re onto something. I agree.


22 posted on 12/16/2012 3:56:13 PM PST by Dartman
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To: Pinkbell

This is NOT a gun problem...this is a Psychiatric Pharmaceutical PROBLEM!!
Dangerous unproven drugs led to the suicidal hanging of one of my sons high school friend 1 week after placed on antidepressants. It is happening more than anyone realizes. Homocidal and suicidal tendencies are effects of these drugs...

http://www.cchr.org/videos/psychiatrys-prescription-for-violence.html


23 posted on 12/16/2012 3:57:05 PM PST by dianed
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To: Dartman

I’m all for freedom of press, but this is where they need to restrain themselves, out for the best interest of this country. Kinda like the Brits’ media so-called blackout on Prince Harry serving overseas.


24 posted on 12/16/2012 3:58:06 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: From The Deer Stand
"Should be a law for a mandatory life sentence without parole for anyone making such threats."

How do you know if the wife just made the story up? Anyone could call the police and claim you made such a threat. Instant home invasion by jack-booted thugs. God help you if you have a few rifles. The MSM would instantly report you as having an arsenal of weapons and cop-killing ammunition.

25 posted on 12/16/2012 4:01:19 PM PST by Godebert (No Person Except a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

I think you’re onto something. I agree.


26 posted on 12/16/2012 4:02:03 PM PST by Dartman
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To: grobdriver

Actually, there is a more scientific explanation for the insanity. People on the edge are put on pharmaceuticals that make them more unstable during a time of magnetic field disruption which affects all humans adversely..... they are simply the most vulnerable....

“Our Sun affects our mental and physical health. The Sun’s activity as it interacts with the Earths magnetic field, effects extensive changes in human beings perspectives, moods, emotions and behavioral patterns.”

http://www.messagetoeagle.com/sunactivityhealth.php#.UM5fE45wa20


27 posted on 12/16/2012 4:04:45 PM PST by dianed
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To: Marcella

Could these people who are acting out with guns, think it doesn’t matter now, they can do what they want?

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You may be onto something there. If someone really, way down at the core of being, really believes the world’s gonna go kerplooey in five more days, than they may be thinking, “Meh....what the hell. Let’s do it!”

People in China are going a little crazy, here where I am in Europe, we got folks going to some hapless little village in France thinking a nearby mountain harbors some UFO mothership, and assorted other craziness. Here in the Czech Republic, it’s actually not that crazy, and ironically it’s because so many people here are atheists; they simply find the 2012 thing to be some weird, crackpot religious flakiness. They just don’t get worked up over it, and if anything, they find the whole notion amusing.


28 posted on 12/16/2012 4:09:17 PM PST by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: Pinkbell
With four such events programmed, three of them were stopped cold by civilians contacting the cops.

In no case did police prior knowledge of registered firearms assist them in getting a jump on the situation.

29 posted on 12/16/2012 4:09:19 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: MinorityRepublican

Sorry for the double post, but you’re right again. The media has to show some restaint, but they won’t. If they can get a scoop on anything, they will. Thank God they weren’t like this during WWII. They’d be announcing when and where the convoys were leaving to cross the Atlantic.


30 posted on 12/16/2012 4:10:21 PM PST by Dartman
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To: From The Deer Stand

As a criminal defense attorney I can tell you that most of the time these “threats” are just made up by an angry wife or girlfriend on the verge of or just after a break up.
I’m not saying to take threats lightly, but at least corroborate them and consider the source.
Sadly it’s often the sleazy family lawyers that advise their clients to come up with some real whoppers of either threats of violence or unsupportable accusations of sexual abuse.
I recently got a completely innocent young man out of jail after a vindictive female co worker told her superiors at work that he said he was planning to blow up the work place.
The cops ran with it and made no efforts to seriously investigate. Instead an arrest warrant was creatively trumped up and signed by a judge landing my client in jail on an extremely high bond for 6 weeks.
It took a lot of maneuvering to get it in front of the grand jury and he was promptly no billed. It’s sad when justice delayed is the best one can hope for.
I say just repeal all bans on carrying guns at school.
Change them to “it shall be unlawful to carry or possess a firearm on school premises during the commission of an assaultive offense or premeditated intent to commit an unlawful act of violence.


31 posted on 12/16/2012 4:12:26 PM PST by Clump ( the tree of liberty is withering like a stricken fig tree)
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To: Pinkbell

There are nuts, psychopaths, terrorists and otherwise evil people planning the next slaughter right now.

It is just a short matter of time before it happens again.

And every word wasted on the subject of control and not spent on the subject of fortifying the most senstive targets that we do not want hit ENABLES ALL OF THEM.

Every day that goes by without armed and armored men in schools tells these bastards THAT WE DO NOT CARE ABOUT THESE TARGETS.

We had best take action right now. Waiting for our idiot politicians to pass more useless gun control laws is ****ING LUNACY!


32 posted on 12/16/2012 4:12:55 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Pinkbell

People see someone become a worldwide household name and figure they can get similar infamy be being an equally big jackass.


33 posted on 12/16/2012 4:13:08 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: Godebert
How do you know if the wife just made the story up?

Bingo we have a Winner! Remember the insane news coverage of the CT school shooting. I have never seen the media do such a bad job of reporting on a horrible tragedy.

34 posted on 12/16/2012 4:16:34 PM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: Pinkbell

Four years of unbridled obama and bernanke selling out america and all that’s come from it is pushing already stressed out people over the edge. This will get worse. First fear the wackos, then the government responding to them.


35 posted on 12/16/2012 4:21:19 PM PST by gotribe
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To: FlingWingFlyer
I think the massive day after day media coverage of these shootings encourages the other nut jobs out there to go ahead and act. They finally get the attention that they so desparately needed in life, in death, after they kill all the victims and then themselves. Media is responsible. BO is responsible for honoring rappers with violent lyrics into the WH. Someone please ask him if he will no longer honor these people. BO watches Benghazi and lets them be murdered. H
36 posted on 12/16/2012 4:25:57 PM PST by dandiegirl
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To: boop

Melted down for scrap? Your an a-hole! How about auctioned off to pay his legal fees so we don’t have too?


37 posted on 12/16/2012 4:27:24 PM PST by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: Lockbar

You are correct.


38 posted on 12/16/2012 4:28:23 PM PST by I_Publius
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To: Pinkbell

Women have a HUGE history of calling the po po and lying in
order to get their husband/boyfriend arrested because they are mad at him. It’s extremely unlikely that this man actually made such a threat and it’s hugely probable that the wife lied about it.


39 posted on 12/16/2012 4:33:34 PM PST by nvscanman
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To: dianed
This is NOT a gun problem...this is a Psychiatric Pharmaceutical PROBLEM!!

Amen. More documentation about this, here:

SSRI Stories.com

40 posted on 12/16/2012 4:33:57 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: backwoods-engineer

The Federal/media conglomerate are making their move on gun owners for sure. They have been doing this since 1968 when Robert Kennedy and MLK were assasinated. Whenever there is a mass murder the media and their Dem partners can always be counted on to push for more gun control.

They never push for control of dangerous mentally ill people. They never demand that liberal judges stop releasing criminals out on the street but they always want to take guns away. The ACLU forced the law to let out mentally ill people so now we have thousands of people who could go off on society if they don’t take their meds and who are living on their own so there is no one to supervise them to make sure that they do take their meds. The law used to allow family members to go to a judge to have a dangerously mentally ill person kept away from society. Now there is little that can be done. It is not just the crazies who go off and kill lots of people at once, there are also single killings, attacks, rapes that must go on every day under the national radar, the stories staying in the local news. These week there was a story on the Boston news of a female mental health worker working in a group home who was raped and murdered buy one of the inmates. There are these group homes thoughout the country, who knows how many similar crimes are being commited by violent mentally-ill people who should be in secure facilities...not group homes.

The media can be very selective when they want to be. Take the case of George Zimmerman, which I think will go down in history as the classic case of the Democrat/media complex acting like a lynch mob. Think about the seriousness of what the Democrat/media complex did to him and the people around him. They lied in many ways just to get their *evil white male gun owner* behind bars. They turned the whole country against him, put him and his family in mortal danger not to mention a family that happened to share his last name. The president interjected himself into the event by hinting that he was sympathetic to Trayvon Martin because he was black. The Democrat/media complex did not care that Zimmerman could be an innocent man going to prison. What happened to Zimmerman could happen to anyone who fit into the handy stereotypes that the Democrat/media complex likes to put on innocent people that they deem to be *enemies* of theirs. The Duke Lacross incident is another example.


41 posted on 12/16/2012 4:38:26 PM PST by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: From The Deer Stand

“Should be a law for a mandatory life sentence without parole for anyone making such threats.”

No... Probably he shouldn’t be charged with a crime at all. This type of person is “criminally insane” and needs to be locked up for the rest of their life.


42 posted on 12/16/2012 4:41:58 PM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: boop
"This idiot is a true gun “nut”. Hopefully he’ll enjoy several years in the can, and all of his $100K “collection” is melted down for scrap."

I've seen no evidence of this supposed threat. Yet you are already calling for his collection of historical firearms be melted for scrap. You are a disgrace.

43 posted on 12/16/2012 4:45:25 PM PST by Godebert (No Person Except a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!)
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To: dianed

That is interesting as I was wondering if the asteroid that blew between the earth and moon recently ...should have disrupted the magnetic field somehow?


44 posted on 12/16/2012 4:52:52 PM PST by EBH (0bama is guilty of willful neglect of duty.)
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To: gotribe

I don’t think that explains these shootings at all. The possible shooter in Oklahoma was a young, 18 year old kid who 9/10 couldn’t have cared less about Obama or the economy. Considering that the majority of young people voted for and support Obama, I doubt he had any animosity towards Obama. Even if he did, that doesn’t explain wanting to kill his fellow students and the police.

The 20 year old in Connecticut was very mentally ill based on everything I’ve read about him. Every single person who encountered him said as much. In fact, his mother had told someone a week before this happened that he was getting worse. I doubt politics ever crossed his mind in life. If this was political, he sure as heck wouldn’t have targeted children at an elementary school.

This guy is obviously a loon, and once again, if Obama and the economy had anything to do with this, he wouldn’t kill his wife, and he wouldn’t be targeting children at an elementary school.

If these were related to politics, Obama, or the economy, the shootings wouldn’t be at elementary schools. Besides, there are many people in this country who are conservative and disagree with Obama, but they aren’t going to start shooting human beings. There’s something mentally off and evil about these people.


45 posted on 12/16/2012 4:54:20 PM PST by Pinkbell
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To: 353FMG

Von Meyer, 60, was arrested on Friday after his wife called Cedar Lake police after he threatened to set her on fire and continue his violent spree by attacking a nearby elementary school.

Democrat? Occupy member? SEIU Union member?,watches CNN? Mentaly iLL?....
Lets get to the truth here.


46 posted on 12/16/2012 4:57:54 PM PST by LtKerst
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To: LtKerst
Biker, Affiliated with the Invaders MC A rough gang if you google them and read
47 posted on 12/16/2012 5:07:48 PM PST by reefdiver
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To: Pinkbell

Okay, might as well say it.

The government has been working for a long time with methods for creating “sleepers” that will perform a specific task upon a certain signal or stimulus.

How better for gun-grabbers to create public sentiment for banning firearms than school massacres?


48 posted on 12/16/2012 5:10:21 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: Pinkbell

I’m beginning to believe less and less of what I read and hear in the news.


49 posted on 12/16/2012 5:12:05 PM PST by Mike Darancette (I don't understand why the Boomers are so passive.)
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To: Pinkbell

Okay, might as well say it.

The government has been working for a long time with methods for creating “sleepers” that will perform a specific task upon a certain signal or stimulus.

How better for gun-grabbers to create public sentiment for banning firearms than school massacres?


50 posted on 12/16/2012 5:12:06 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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