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Lieberman, Democrats want ban on assault weapons
AP/WorldMag ^ | Dec 16, 7:20 PM EST | ANNE FLAHERTY

Posted on 12/16/2012 6:25:59 PM PST by quantim

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Democratic lawmakers and independent Sen. Joe Lieberman said Sunday that military-style assault weapons should be banned and that a national commission should be established to examine mass shootings in the United States.

The proposals were among the first to come from Congress in the wake of Friday's school shooting in Newtown, Conn.

"Assault weapons were developed for the U.S. military, not commercial gun manufacturers," Lieberman said before a vigil Sunday night in Newtown.

"This is a moment to start a very serious national conversation about violence in our society, particularly about these acts of mass violence," said the Connecticut senator, who is retiring next month.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; democrats; guncontrol; molonlabe; sandyhookpolitics; shallnotbeinfringed; tyranny; youwillnotdisarmus
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"The Great Compromise" gave us senators.
1 posted on 12/16/2012 6:26:03 PM PST by quantim
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To: quantim

Leftists should be banned, they have killed far more than assault weapons have.


2 posted on 12/16/2012 6:28:17 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: quantim
WE THE PEOPLE are the US military in this country.

We're supposed to use pea shooters??

All they will be doing is creating a black market.

3 posted on 12/16/2012 6:29:11 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: quantim

I am so sick of seeing the name Joe Lieberman.

He cannot leave soon enough to suit me.,


4 posted on 12/16/2012 6:29:35 PM PST by Venturer
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To: driftdiver

9:30, tomorrow morning, gun dealers in the US will quietly add $200 to the price of every black rifle in inventory...


5 posted on 12/16/2012 6:29:35 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
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To: quantim

I still haven’t heard where “assault weapons” were used in this shooting. What’s up with the fuzz? Why are they withholding this information? Waiting for their “messiah” to finish his speech or what?


6 posted on 12/16/2012 6:30:37 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (It's not about the guns. It's about the control.)
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To: quantim

Does this mean that those Dems who have armed guards protecting them will no longer be armed too? I know, I just made a funny


7 posted on 12/16/2012 6:31:16 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: quantim

We don’t need new gun control laws. We need better lunatic control laws. Tuscon, the bat man movie shooter, and now this horrific episode . . . Rampage shootings are almost exclusively perpetrated by the dangerously unbalanced.

But as a social order, we are so hung up on “stigmatizing the handicapped” that we refuse to throw these dangerous sickos in the booby hatch were they belong. Look hard at the nearly inconceivably horrifying carnage in Connecticut; that is the price we are paying because we are afraid of looking “mean”.


8 posted on 12/16/2012 6:31:45 PM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: driftdiver

You mean like, “The Projects” in the 60’s?

Why yes.


9 posted on 12/16/2012 6:32:36 PM PST by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: quantim

We can’t keep mass murdering muslims off planes because they have a right to travel but banning guns is OK?


10 posted on 12/16/2012 6:32:40 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: quantim

How about banning violent video games? The last three mass murderers, this one, Aurora, and Oregon, were all young males who were video game nuts. They all three dressed up like their game “heroes” and shot the place up. If there ever is a cause and effect, this is it.


11 posted on 12/16/2012 6:32:45 PM PST by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: quantim

Did Loserman forget to turn on his brain today?


12 posted on 12/16/2012 6:33:23 PM PST by rfp1234 (Arguing with a liberal is like playing chess with a pigeon.)
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To: quantim

EVERY MASS SHOOTING IN THE US EXCEPT ONE SINCE WWIII HAS OCCURRED IN A SO-CALLED “GUN FREE ZONE.” WE SHOULD BAN THOSE!

Yes, shout it!!!


13 posted on 12/16/2012 6:35:01 PM PST by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Just wait. Sen. “I can carry a gun but you can’t” Feinstein is talking about banning possession, not just future sales.


14 posted on 12/16/2012 6:35:14 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: driftdiver
The 2nd Amendment is really to keep megalomaniacs who congregate in DC from becoming tyrants. It's the bottom line to the true reason Dems don't like it.

Good for Cong Gohmert.

Rep. Louie Gohmert, R-Texas, was the sole representative of gun rights' activists on the various Sunday talk shows. In an interview on "Fox News Sunday," Gohmert defended the sale of assault weapons and said that the principal at Sandy Hook Elementary School, who authorities say died trying to overtake the shooter, should herself have been armed.

15 posted on 12/16/2012 6:36:24 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: driftdiver

Liberal policies have laid waste to more cities than nuclear weapons.


16 posted on 12/16/2012 6:37:05 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I have read a few posts on FR suggesting that the murderer actually used an AR-15 for most of the killings. Supposedly a Saiga or similar was in the trunk. I hope that I am wrong and that he used only the pistols, but it won’t matter to the Left. Remember that the Brady Campaign madness began over a humble .22 caliber pistol. Don’t even bother with the actual definition of “assault weapon.” These people want anything that goes bang and could be used to carry out the original purpose of the Second Amendment.


17 posted on 12/16/2012 6:38:40 PM PST by Trod Upon (Civilian disarmament is the precursor to democide.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

To a leftist, an ‘assault weapon’ is any weapon ever used in an assault. It is commie propaganda to scare uninformed people.


18 posted on 12/16/2012 6:40:08 PM PST by ilgipper (Obama supporters are comprised of the uninformed & the ill-informed)
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To: quantim
I can almost visualize how it will be when the government owns all the guns and we own not even a sharp knife to cut food with.

THEN they will be happy and they can manipulate everything we think, eat, live, etc.

Oh happy days.........!

19 posted on 12/16/2012 6:46:13 PM PST by jongaltsr
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To: Trod Upon

Several reports have the Bushmaster being the murder weapon.
The Medical Examiner found that all the victims were killed with .223.


20 posted on 12/16/2012 6:48:56 PM PST by RitchieAprile (the obstreperous gentleman..)
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To: quantim

I hope Boner does not push something treasonous through the House. Senator McStupid would join Leiberman to give him a piece of American freedom and some American blood for his retirement present.


21 posted on 12/16/2012 6:49:26 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: RitchieAprile

The ME said that, but there is video of police taking it FROM THE TRUNK. See the interview with Blumenthal.

The mother had 3 weapons. So, if the little ones were killed with a .223, who was the 2nd shooter? Who was the guy in cuffs on the ground at the fire station?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=j_fI0hm1dqY


22 posted on 12/16/2012 6:53:24 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: Sarah Barracuda
Does this mean that those Dems who have armed guards protecting them will no longer be armed too? I know, I just made a funny


My thought exactly Let’s ban bodyguards and those armed assasins that protect the political class. We’ll see how longt before Leiberman and Hollywood Celebs are applying for their CCW permit

23 posted on 12/16/2012 6:54:39 PM PST by Joshua
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To: cripplecreek

Hope some of humanity lives long enough for some judge to order the muzzie footbaths to get ripped out of Ann Arbor.


24 posted on 12/16/2012 6:56:43 PM PST by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: quantim

WASHINGTON (AP) — Democratic lawmakers and independent Sen. Joe Lieberman said Sunday that military-style assault weapons should be banned and that a national commission should be established to examine mass shootings in the United States.

That would mean my 9mm Smith and Wesson would be banned. Military troops use it in combat that would indicate it is an assault weapon.
Automatic weapons, Machine guns, etc all ALL already banned for civilian ownership .
All this talk is just silly political nonsense that will NEVER do anything to protect a child


25 posted on 12/16/2012 6:57:56 PM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: Joshua

I am all for banning bodyguards for those Hollywood leftists who are for “Gun control” they spew their hate for guns but make money off of gun violence in their movies and TV shows. You can’t even get near a celebrity without being escorted away by their armed guard. Such hypocrites but what do you expect, they are leftists..hypocrisy is their middle name


26 posted on 12/16/2012 6:58:10 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: RitchieAprile

What exactly does the .223 mean in terms of the Bushmaster? Is that they type of amo or the power of the gun - how many rounds are shot per second?


27 posted on 12/16/2012 7:01:30 PM PST by MissH
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To: quantim

Those are footbaths?

Oops.

I wondered where the toilet paper was.


28 posted on 12/16/2012 7:02:37 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Joshua

Read this story..Id post it myself but dont know how to post(Been on this site for so long but dont know how to post, I know pretty pathetic isnt it LOL)

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2012/12/16/man-22-held-for-the-stabbing-murder-of-his-grandmother/#respond

Waiting for the media to call for a ban on BBQ Forks..those things can be deadly


29 posted on 12/16/2012 7:05:07 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: FlingWingFlyer

An “assault” weapon is a semi automatic rifle, with a pistol grip, a collapse able stock, a magazine that can hold more than 30 rounds, a flash suppressor and bayonet lug.

Except you can buy pre ban mags, and you can pin a stock, and you don’t really need a bayonet lug.

Tell me how that changes any damned thing?


30 posted on 12/16/2012 7:05:53 PM PST by Vermont Lt (We are so screwed.)
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To: quantim

Yeah. Assault weapon = any semi-automatic firearm


31 posted on 12/16/2012 7:06:01 PM PST by pabianice (washington, dc ..)
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To: quantim

Joe Liebermann is possibly the dumbest Congressman to come down the pike since “Dollar Bill” Bradley of New Jersey, and that says a lot.

NOW is the time to send those whores in Congress letters telling them NO MORE GUN LAWS - enforce the ones you have!!!


32 posted on 12/16/2012 7:06:22 PM PST by ZULU (See video: http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-first-siege-of-vienna.html)
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To: MissH

It’s the diameter of the projectile, or caliber. This rifle shoots bullets that are 0.223 inch in diameter.


33 posted on 12/16/2012 7:08:27 PM PST by EricT. (The GOP's sole purpose is to serve as an ineffective alternative to the Democrat Party.)
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Ban semi-automatic forceps!


34 posted on 12/16/2012 7:14:02 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: quantim

Are these asshats going to take all the semi-auto “military” rifles away from all non-military in this country, including local, state and federal LEOs?


35 posted on 12/16/2012 7:15:36 PM PST by Chipper (You can't kill an Obamazombie by destroying the brain...they didn't have one to begin with.)
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To: quantim

Anyone remember these attacks on school children?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cokeville_Elementary_School_hostage_crisis

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1976_Chowchilla_kidnapping


36 posted on 12/16/2012 7:17:37 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (SAVE THE SUMATRAN RAT MONKEY!)
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To: RitchieAprile
The Medical Examiner found

Source?

37 posted on 12/16/2012 7:20:39 PM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: EricT.

Thank you -


38 posted on 12/16/2012 7:22:41 PM PST by MissH
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To: MissH
223 is slang for a round that evolved from the brand name "223 Remington." Most of the bullets loaded in that round are usually .224 diameter. That round is almost the same (but not exactly) as the standard military rifle round "5.56mm X 45mm" sometimes referred to as "556 NATO." There is SAAMI warning against shooting 5.56 in a 223 but most modern firearms can handle both. The Ruger Mini-14 is stamped "CAL. .223 but the chamber is actually a 5.56.

[IMG]http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j302/rpwhite55/guns/223v556.jpg[/IMG]

39 posted on 12/16/2012 7:28:33 PM PST by atomic_dog
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To: FlingWingFlyer

What is an assault weapon? Seriously...that is a very vague term. What exactly is an assault weapon and what is not an assault weapon?


40 posted on 12/16/2012 7:29:33 PM PST by Mustangman (The GOP)
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To: quantim

They want civil war.


41 posted on 12/16/2012 7:29:37 PM PST by bmwcyle (We have gone over the cliff and we are about to hit the bottom)
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To: quantim
Much better to just ban insurrectionist politicians who violate their oath to support the Constitution.

Fourteenth Amendment
Section 3.

No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof...

Second Amendment

...the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.


42 posted on 12/16/2012 7:35:37 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Obamacare is the socialist cancer of the New Deal metastasized.)
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To: Chipper

With 0 on watch “assault weapon”s will be expanded to include handguns within the next few years. Incrementalism is the tool of government andthe same way armies advanced and conquered territories for millennia; same method; different scale.


43 posted on 12/16/2012 7:35:37 PM PST by jsanders2001
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To: Chipper

With 0 on watch “assault weapon”s will be expanded to include handguns within the next few years. Incrementalism is the tool of government to accomplish end objectives and the very same way armies advanced and conquered territories for millennia one step at a time; same method; different scale.


44 posted on 12/16/2012 7:36:41 PM PST by jsanders2001
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To: ZULU

A big part of the problem is them enforcing the laws already on the books.


45 posted on 12/16/2012 7:39:03 PM PST by DangerZone (If the left had their way, all of America would be as safe as Sandy Hook Elementary.)
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To: JohnBrowdie

The problem is that the “lunatics” have “rights”...far more rights, it appears, then law abiding gun owners who aren’t mentally ill.

Why is it that no one wanted to ban jet aircraft after 9/11??


46 posted on 12/16/2012 7:40:39 PM PST by VideoPaul
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To: RitchieAprile
http://www.drudge.com/news/163910/lanza-used-bushmaster-223-rifle-kill

“Police believe most of the shots came from a Bushmaster .223, a semi-automatic assault rifle.”

Most vs All?

I cannot believe the inconsistencies that are in the press related to this mass murder.

The MSM coverage is the worst I have ever seen. Reminds me of the lies from Benghazi.

47 posted on 12/16/2012 7:44:30 PM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: quantim

A “very serious national conversation about violence in our society” is nothing but code words for another attempt by the left to disarm the people.


48 posted on 12/16/2012 7:45:04 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Why is the government more concerned about protecting a microbe on Mars than an unborn baby here?)
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To: quantim

‘Assault weapon’ will be redefined as any weapon with a barrel.


49 posted on 12/16/2012 7:46:29 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

That is curiously absent. I have heard it described it as a Bushmaster in .223 caliber, but I have not heard it called an assault weapon.


50 posted on 12/16/2012 7:49:52 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Why is the government more concerned about protecting a microbe on Mars than an unborn baby here?)
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