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The Facts about Mass Shootings - Itís time to address mental health and gun-free zones.
National Review Online ^ | December 16, 2012 | John Fund

Posted on 12/16/2012 6:52:11 PM PST by neverdem

A few things you won’t hear about from the saturation coverage of the Newtown, Conn., school massacre:

Mass shootings are no more common than they have been in past decades, despite the impression given by the media.

In fact, the high point for mass killings in the U.S. was 1929, according to criminologist Grant Duwe of the Minnesota Department of Corrections.

Incidents of mass murder in the U.S. declined from 42 in the 1990s to 26 in the first decade of this century.

The chances of being killed in a mass shooting are about what they are for being struck by lightning.

Until the Newtown horror, the three worst K–12 school shootings ever had taken place in either Britain or Germany.

Almost all of the public-policy discussion about Newtown has focused on a debate over the need for more gun control. In reality, gun control in a country that already has 200 million privately owned firearms is likely to do little to keep weapons out of the hands of criminals. We would be better off debating two taboo subjects — the laws that make it difficult to control people with mental illness and the growing body of evidence that “gun-free” zones, which ban the carrying of firearms by law-abiding individuals, don’t work.

First, the mental-health issue. A lengthy study by Mother Jones magazine found that at least 38 of the 61 mass shooters in the past three decades “displayed signs of mental health problems prior to the killings.” New York Times columnist David Brooks and Cornell Law School professor William Jacobsen have both suggested that the ACLU-inspired laws that make it so difficult to intervene and identify potentially dangerous people should be loosened. “Will we address mental-health and educational-privacy laws, which instill fear of legal liability for reporting potentially violent mentally ill people to law enforcement?” asks Professor Jacobsen. “I doubt it.”

Gun-free zones have been the most popular response to previous mass killings. But many law-enforcement officials say they are actually counterproductive. “Guns are already banned in schools. That is why the shootings happen in schools. A school is a ‘helpless-victim zone,’” says Richard Mack, a former Arizona sheriff. “Preventing any adult at a school from having access to a firearm eliminates any chance the killer can be stopped in time to prevent a rampage,” Jim Kouri, the public-information officer of the National Association of Chiefs of Police, told me earlier this year at the time of the Aurora, Colo., Batman-movie shooting. Indeed, there have been many instances — from the high-school shooting by Luke Woodham in Mississippi, to the New Life Church shooting in Colorado Springs, Colo. — where a killer has been stopped after someone got a gun from a parked car or elsewhere and confronted the shooter.

Economists John Lott and William Landes conducted a groundbreaking study in 1999, and found that a common theme of mass shootings is that they occur in places where guns are banned and killers know everyone will be unarmed, such as shopping malls and schools.

I spoke with Lott after the Newtown shooting, and he confirmed that nothing has changed to alter his findings. He noted that the Aurora shooter, who killed twelve people earlier this year, had a choice of seven movie theaters that were showing the Batman movie he was obsessed with. All were within a 20-minute drive of his home. The Cinemark Theater the killer ultimately chose wasn’t the closest, but it was the only one that posted signs saying it banned concealed handguns carried by law-abiding individuals. All of the other theaters allowed the approximately 4 percent of Colorado adults who have a concealed-handgun permit to enter with their weapons.

“Disarming law-abiding citizens leaves them as sitting ducks,” Lott told me. “A couple hundred people were in the Cinemark Theater when the killer arrived. There is an extremely high probability that one or more of them would have had a legal concealed handgun with him if they had not been banned.”

Lott offers a final damning statistic: “With just one single exception, the attack on congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords in Tucson in 2011, every public shooting since at least 1950 in the U.S. in which more than three people have been killed has taken place where citizens are not allowed to carry guns.”

There is no evidence that private holders of concealed-carry permits (which are either easy to obtain or not even required in more than 40 states) are any more irresponsible with firearms than the police. According to a 2005 to 2007 study by researchers at the University of Wisconsin and Bowling Green State University, police nationwide were convicted of firearms violations at least at a 0.002 percent annual rate. That’s about the same rate as holders of carry permits in the states with “shall issue” laws.

Despite all of this evidence, the magical thinking behind gun-free zones is unlikely to be questioned in the wake of the Newtown killings. Having such zones gives people a false sense of security, and woe to the politician or business owner who now suggests that a “gun-free zone” revert back to what critics would characterize as “a wild, wild West” status. Indeed, shortly after the Cinemark attack in Colorado, the manager of the nearby Northfield Theaters changed its policy and began banning concealed handguns.

In all of the fevered commentary over the Newtown killings, you will hear little discussion of the fact that we may be making our families and neighbors less safe by expanding the places where guns aren’t allowed. But that is precisely what we may be doing. Both criminals and the criminally insane have shown time and time again that those laws are the least of the problem,s they face as they carry out their evil deeds.

— John Fund is a national-affairs columnist for NRO.



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; adamlanzadrugs; banglist; guncontrol; gunfreezone; libor; mentalillness; sandyhookgundefense; secondamendment
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It’s also time to address the psychoactive meds that plenty of these shooters have been on, in particular the selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors, SSRIs. This kid had Asperger's syndrome. Was he on them? Were his meds adjusted recently? You can go nuts with SSRIs either increasing or decreasing the dosage.
1 posted on 12/16/2012 6:52:19 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

We need ‘Mental’-Free-Zones

or maybe more appropriately —’Meds’-Free-Zones

Big-Pharma has some explaining to do....


2 posted on 12/16/2012 6:57:33 PM PST by libertarian27 (Check my profile page for the FReeper Online Cookbook 2011)
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To: neverdem

When does it get blamed on AGW?


3 posted on 12/16/2012 7:00:40 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: libertarian27

I’d like LEFTIST FREE Zones.....that would solve a multitude of problems!


5 posted on 12/16/2012 7:05:06 PM PST by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: Brandonmark
Here in North Texas, more and more businesses who once had signage up to not allow CCW in their business have taken those signs down.

More signs of the times.

6 posted on 12/16/2012 7:05:55 PM PST by harpu ( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
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To: Jack Hydrazine
"When does it get blamed on AGW?"

It will probably be put on GWB's feet first.

7 posted on 12/16/2012 7:09:08 PM PST by harpu ( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
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To: goodnesswins

I like the idea of Leftist-Free States. I will move to one as soon as one is available.


8 posted on 12/16/2012 7:09:44 PM PST by windsorknot
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To: Brandonmark; admin
I was sent the Busch Gardens sign and should have checked their website first. This was photoshopped. Please disregard and remove.

From Busch Gardens website:

Personal Item Policy

For your safety, the following items are not permitted inside Busch Gardens: glass containers, chairs, firearms, knives, pointed scissors, pepper sprays, eating utensils, clothing with offensive language, wallet chains, and flammable liquids.


9 posted on 12/16/2012 7:13:14 PM PST by Brandonmark (OWCM is The new American Minority!)
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To: neverdem
Lott offers a final damning statistic: “With just one single exception, the attack on congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords in Tucson in 2011, every public shooting since at least 1950 in the U.S. in which more than three people have been killed has taken place where citizens are not allowed to carry guns.”

SHOUT IT!!! Everywhere.

10 posted on 12/16/2012 7:15:42 PM PST by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: neverdem

It is still morally offensive to me that only cops can carry guns to protect themselves.


11 posted on 12/16/2012 7:17:55 PM PST by Rapscallion ( OBAMA: You own it now. See if you can govern it.)
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To: neverdem
BTTT

Mass Killings Stopped by Armed Citizens

12 posted on 12/16/2012 7:18:20 PM PST by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: EdReform

Thanks for the link!


13 posted on 12/16/2012 7:28:59 PM PST by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: goodnesswins

I once tried a thought experiment to imagine one aspect of life that would not improve if all the leftists magically disappeared for good. I came up empty. I think they’re some kind of Biblical plague.


14 posted on 12/16/2012 7:31:21 PM PST by Trod Upon (Civilian disarmament is the precursor to democide.)
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To: goodnesswins

That’s sounding better and better all the time.


15 posted on 12/16/2012 7:32:51 PM PST by DangerZone (If the left had their way, all of America would be as safe as Sandy Hook Elementary.)
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To: DangerZone

How about we do something about the Zombies,the schools are putting out relying on drugs to control their classroom.


16 posted on 12/16/2012 7:37:19 PM PST by BooBoo1000 (Some times I wake up grumpy,,, other times I just let her sleep.)
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To: Brandonmark

Just click “Report Abuse” on your own post and ask the Mod to remove it. I don’t know if that always works, but it worked once for me.


17 posted on 12/16/2012 7:39:50 PM PST by TChad
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To: TChad

Thanks - never tried that — if I get banned I’ll know better


18 posted on 12/16/2012 7:42:05 PM PST by Brandonmark (OWCM is The new American Minority!)
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To: neverdem

As more facts trickle in regarding this latest school shooting, we are finding that it perhaps wasn’t quite as out-of-the-blue as the media would like to portray it. The kid had problems, the mom had lots of guns laying around evidently not properly secured, and there were incidents where she reportedly feared her own child. Yet just like the Zimmerman/Martin case, captain Zero needs to rush right in there with his pre-planned agenda that just needed “an incident” to put into motion.


19 posted on 12/16/2012 7:50:15 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: neverdem

There is an article posted here that says he was on Fanapt, a schizophrenia drug. I found it buried in the article and posted about it in the thread.


20 posted on 12/16/2012 7:52:02 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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