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(Walid) Phares: Egypt on Verge of Becoming a “Totalitarian Islamist State”
Newsmax ^ | Sunday, 16 Dec 2012 05:02 PM | Paul Scicchitano

Posted on 12/17/2012 12:16:10 AM PST by Olog-hai

Middle East expert Walid Phares says this weekend’s vote on a new Egyptian constitution is part of a broader strategy by President Mohammed Morsi to transform the country into a “totalitarian Islamist state” like Iran.

“They forced the referendum on Egyptians without judges, monitors, and under the pressure of their street militias,” explained Phares, an advisor to the anti-Terrorism Caucus of the U.S. House of Representatives, said in an exclusive interview with Newsmax.

“That’s what the forces of civil society are seeing today. Egypt is divided between the Islamists and the rest of the country.” …

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: egypt; jihad; muslimbrotherhood; religionofpeace

1 posted on 12/17/2012 12:16:27 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

0bama should lose his job over this and this alone. The 0bama propaganda outlet we call the news media isn’t talking about this. Scary times, people.


2 posted on 12/17/2012 12:23:19 AM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: Olog-hai

Quick, Obama! Send them more U.S. fighter jets!


3 posted on 12/17/2012 12:29:07 AM PST by UnwashedPeasant
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
It's utterly amazing. The forces of totalitarianism are on the march throughout the entire world.

The most depressing part is that the media is completely behind it. I'm old enough to remember when the media was anti-totalitarian.

No, wait, hold on. I'm not.

4 posted on 12/17/2012 12:29:46 AM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: Lazamataz
Totalitarianism can happen anywhere, in any country, and very quickly...


5 posted on 12/17/2012 12:33:46 AM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: Olog-hai; All

Morsi is getting plenty of blow back from the non Sharia folks who helped oust Mubarack.


6 posted on 12/17/2012 12:34:17 AM PST by gleeaikin
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To: Olog-hai
Phares, from the article:

Egyptian democracy forces today openly accuse the Obama Administration of helping the Brotherhood take over the country.

7 posted on 12/17/2012 12:36:36 AM PST by Kennard
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To: Olog-hai

Is there any other kind of Islamic state?


8 posted on 12/17/2012 12:38:32 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: Kennard

That’s not something that the Obama Administration has been hiding. Who out of the secular groups has been invited to the White House, after all? None. The Muslim Brotherhood has been there, though, and that is just saying too much. All the excuses and lies about the MB to try to make them look like the secularists (they aren’t a religious group, they are “moderates”, they are not interested in politics, blah blah blah) and the leopard turned out to have never changed its spots after all. Who did they think they were trying to con?


9 posted on 12/17/2012 12:42:22 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

How “inspiring”. /s


10 posted on 12/17/2012 12:43:24 AM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: gleeaikin

I will set the Egyptians against the Egyptians - God

Is this what is about to unfold?

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah%2019:2,4&version=KJV

Isaiah 19:2

King James Version (KJV)

2 And I will set the Egyptians against the Egyptians: and they shall fight every one against his brother, and every one against his neighbour; city against city, and kingdom against kingdom.

Isaiah 19:4

King James Version (KJV)

4 And the Egyptians will I give over into the hand of a cruel lord; and a fierce king shall rule over them, saith the Lord, the Lord of hosts.


11 posted on 12/17/2012 12:51:23 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, there’s the secular Islamic state of Turkey.

Oh, wait ...


12 posted on 12/17/2012 12:53:52 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: F15Eagle

Ataturk is rolling over in his grave.


13 posted on 12/17/2012 1:00:18 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Olog-hai

Obama has accomplished what he was installed to do by his handlers - weaken the U.S. and her allies and strengthen the enemies of freedom and free speech and personal liberty.


14 posted on 12/17/2012 1:06:17 AM PST by Best and Brightest
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I once believed the Founding Fathers of the USA had reached 30,000 rpm.

Now I believe they are in excess of 60,000 rpm.


15 posted on 12/17/2012 1:10:26 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: gleeaikin
There will not be enough help (imho) to stop zer0. zer0 has moved in his first four years, twenty years backwards across the region by design. Since zer0 has four more years, the region will be completely purged of western influence is my humble opinion, and the sword rattling will intensify. Am seeing sword rattling on a large enough scale to be considered as having begun twelve plus years ago.

Good to see you gleeaikin. God Bless You and Yours. Hind Sight is 20/20. Foresight for this situation looks to be 20/20. Wish and pray it were not true.

16 posted on 12/17/2012 1:12:16 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: F15Eagle

My hope too F15 is God and Jesus will deliver us. Otherwise do not think am going to enjoy the ride. I will pray for you FRiend, and request same.


17 posted on 12/17/2012 1:17:49 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: no-to-illegals

Thank you for your prayers and praying now.

We can see what path the world is on. I wonder how far off the Tribulation must be. I don’t think we go through it, imho.

But there will be Tribulation and Great Tribulation Saints, which no man could number.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%207:9-10,13-17&version=KJV

Revelation 7:9-10

King James Version (KJV)

9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude,
which no man could number,
of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues,
stood before the throne,
and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes,
and palms in their hands;

10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb

Revelation 7:13-17

King James Version (KJV)

13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?

14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

15 Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.

16 They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat.

17 For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.


18 posted on 12/17/2012 1:34:21 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: F15Eagle

I wonder how far off the Tribulation must be. I don’t think we go through it
Just have to take care with thinking like that. Consider Luke 21:35. If this encompasses the whole earth, then not any corner of the globe will remain untouched.
19 posted on 12/17/2012 1:58:29 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: F15Eagle

Thank you. My prayers are going up too, from here. I appreciate your typed words of comfort.


20 posted on 12/17/2012 1:59:20 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

Obama is taking notes on how it’s done.


21 posted on 12/17/2012 2:00:09 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Olog-hai

yep, every corner. One can only wonder what would have been had not the paths chosen been different should the time come, and as is written (that time) will come.


22 posted on 12/17/2012 2:01:59 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Olog-hai
There was also a report posted on FR that Christian women were denied the right to vote by judicial action. Obama must be really proud of his creation and none of this gets reported in the major media.
23 posted on 12/17/2012 2:29:07 AM PST by Truth29
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To: Lazamataz

I recently had a long and depressing discussion with my daughter about these matters and the same issues apply here as they did with the GOP primaries/election. Reduce the issues to their core and toss aside all the fluff and what are you left with?

A public that has been intentionally ‘educated’ to ignore history and embrace the promises of the ‘experts’.

Whether it’s supposed ‘conservatives’ ignoring the history of their candidates or the clusterfreak in the Mid East, where millenia of war/oppression/conflict were the standard and not the exception; the core issue is the same. People willingly refuse to learn the lessons of history and intentional magical thinking ensures the predictable outcome. To further reduce it to a concise point, people want to be lied to and oppressed. They want to eat crap because they enjoy the taste.

And to anyone that thinks I am full of it, I offer this.

If people did not want to be lied to, they would challenge the lies rather than roll over and make excuses for the liars. If people did not want to be oppressed, they would fight back against their oppressors and put some more effort in the game than random whining on the internet and returning to their regularly scheduled lives. If they wanted to be free, they would act like free people and not be publicly proud of their Stockholm Syndrome.

The comparison has often been made to a battered woman thinking she can change her abuser ‘with just one more chance’.

“We can make Muslims love us if we just...’
“If we hadn’t gone into (insert M.E. country here) they wouldn’t...’
‘If we write sternly worded letters to the congressmen we will unwaiveringly vote for regardless of what they do, they will...”

And my personal favorite...
“We have to vote for liar X even though we oppose everything they ever said/did because if we don’t, we will end up with another guy who we oppose everything they ever said or did).

When you reduce the arguments to their core issues, that’s the result.

Ergo, if people do not want a thing, they should not empower a thing. And as always I defy anyone to disprove the logic. Since the logic cannot be disproved, the simple truth is the same.

THEY WANT THEM.

Words of denial and rationalizations are meaningless in the face of demonstrated facts to the contrary.


24 posted on 12/17/2012 2:31:52 AM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Lazamataz

And another thing while I’m in rant mode! ;)

There are currently a handful of people running around FR (and other sites) making every excuse you can imagine about Bohner/the GOP and how they didn’t really cave on the Fiscal cliff deal.

It’s the media’s fault, it’s all a lie to slander him, it’s any of a million provably BS excuses. Yet they are repeated ad nausem. And these same posters go into full defense of the GOP’s actions mode when abandoning the GOP gets mentioned.

Now is that not battered wife/Stockholm syndrome in technicolor glory?

Is that not magical thinking willfully undertaken?

When people in the Mid East act to empower the Muslim Brotherhood/jihadis while claiming they want to be free et all, is it logically any different from a Freeper acting as a firewall for a change in their situation? Working at cross purposes? I think that’s pretty apparent to anyone who is NOT willing to lie to themselves.

So again, if people do not want a thing, they should not empower a thing. Pretty simple math. Want to be rid of oppression and corruption? Do not work in any way to support it. Do not make excuses and rationalizations for it.

And unfortunately, I don’t believe there are enough people left on the earth to do it. Because the provable majority, lib, Muslim and yes ‘Conservative’ alike, ENJOY the chains that bind them.

/rant


25 posted on 12/17/2012 2:58:54 AM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Olog-hai

...and so it goes for Odumbo and his Arab Spring. As it was the case in all the other incompetent sub-saharan dictators, chaos has always been their best ally. The new business of the US has become wars without end.


26 posted on 12/17/2012 3:05:54 AM PST by exPBRrat
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To: Olog-hai

Oh it definitely happens over the whole Earth.


27 posted on 12/17/2012 3:09:37 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Thank You Norm. You typed and said what needed saying. If you are not on target, I will be surprised. Seldom surprised anymore, regrettably. Good to Great Rant.


28 posted on 12/17/2012 3:24:52 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Kennard

“Egyptian democracy forces today openly accuse the Obama Administration of helping the Brotherhood take over the country.”
Yep. Glenn Beck warned us of this. Next up is Syria, and the Brotherhood will get in with the help of US troops.


29 posted on 12/17/2012 3:30:30 AM PST by MCF
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To: no-to-illegals

I WANT people to come out and try proving me wrong. I want them to give it their best shot. Because I believe that not only does this need to be said, but people need to see the enemies in their midst.

And see them humiliated for the frauds they are.

Perhaps then the silent will speak up. And fight back.


30 posted on 12/17/2012 3:38:05 AM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: MCF

Morsi and 0bama are birds of the same feather. They only stay in office because of the Satanically misguided leftists.


31 posted on 12/17/2012 3:45:26 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: Norm Lenhart

A prayer it works Norm, and the silent will speak. We must try to have voices leading, and Thank You for trying to lead. I know my words have been fluff. If I were to rant am afraid Jim would have to ban me. I hope not for I am sensing a rant of rants coming upon me.


32 posted on 12/17/2012 4:05:49 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: no-to-illegals

More ranting! Hell it made Dennis Miller a star ;)

Seriously though, for ever post, there are hundreds if not thousands of readers who either nod in agreement or reject the argument. Our problem is that whether it’s the PDS displayed regularly or any other topic, we need to show people that that there are more than a couple people who see things as we do.

Freepers of a truly conservative bent need to do two things IMO. Get and study Robert Greene’s book “The 48 Laws of Power” and also read up on propaganda and how/why it works.

Then apply learned knowledge.

But to sum it up for readers? Do NOT sit silently while either muslim tyrants, liberal governance or questionably aligned forum posters rip your freedoms from under you while you sit in quiet acceptance contributing to your own demise. You don’t have to be Patric Henry, but it would sure help to make your own voices/opinions heard. CLEARLY AND LOUDLY.


33 posted on 12/17/2012 4:15:56 AM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

Much appreciation for the advice and recommendation of reading material. Too old to be a star. Ah, but I was so much older then, I’m younger than that now.


34 posted on 12/17/2012 4:28:31 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Olog-hai

Jimmy Carter created Iran

Obama creates Egypt.


35 posted on 12/17/2012 4:46:24 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

Hide your children, hide your goats! Poor Egypt.


36 posted on 12/17/2012 4:51:35 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Norm Lenhart

‘If we write sternly worded letters to the congressmen we will unwaiveringly vote for regardless of what they do, they will...”


You described the GOP to a “T.”

This is why we need a third party and if we don’t get one, IT’S OVER! You can kiss America and its freedom away for good.


37 posted on 12/17/2012 5:09:22 AM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: Olog-hai

Do literacy rates have a bearing on the amount of Islamic fundamentalism i.e. Islamism in countries like Egypt? Little more than half the country’s adults are literate. While the male literacy rate is higher than the female rate, I would bet most of the crazy people causing trouble over there are the illiterate males. Islam attracts the most stupid and ignorant segments of any country. It appeals to the most stupid and violent males’ desire to kill people who don’t agree with them and subjugate women.


38 posted on 12/17/2012 5:16:16 AM PST by driftless2
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To: Norm Lenhart

You are exactly right in both of your postings. The latter post (this one) brings to light the typical Republican voter who will shun the need to immediately form a Third party to actually represent conservatives and protect the Constitution.

Typical “zombie” Republican voters are normally “go along to get along” people who support a “go along to get along” Republican party.

It’s a lose-lose situation. With the democrats we are driving a car at 90 mph headed for a communist wall; with the Republicans we are in a car doing 85 mph headed for the same wall.

People had better wake up and slam on the breaks NOW!


39 posted on 12/17/2012 5:19:29 AM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: Olog-hai

I remember hearing that the famous Cairo speech that Obama gave specifically asked for the MB to be an audience to it.


40 posted on 12/17/2012 5:22:18 AM PST by Merta (Like Joe Jones, but in reverse, I talk too much.)
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To: DH

And it is up to us to wake them up. If that means a metaphoricly bloody civil war on every forum on the net and every town hall/political gathering, so be it.

These people are moreso responsible for our current condition than Obama and the libs. Because without their willful ignorance and active participation in shouting us down/belittling our factual points, we would not BE in this position to begin with.

PERIOD.

Fellow conservative lurkers, I implore you. Unleash the dogs of war. Stop letting these people direct the discussion. Stop empowering them to wreck the remainder of America through inaction. Take charge and shout THEM down. We are beyond the point of ‘civil’ debate. Because they have been anything but civil.


41 posted on 12/17/2012 5:26:14 AM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

It is just incredible the MSM will not cover this.

Reminds me of what I read about NYT reporter writing “no famine in Georgia” when millions were being starved under Stalin.


42 posted on 12/17/2012 5:48:25 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: The_Media_never_lie
That would be Walter Duranty. The American media has a long history of covering for dictators.
43 posted on 12/17/2012 9:05:11 AM PST by rdcbn
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Conversely, Morsi learned how to do it from 0bama and Hillary. SHE gave him the go-ahead to declare himself Dictator after their meeting in Gaza. Strange timing, huh?


44 posted on 12/17/2012 10:47:15 AM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: driftless2

No. That’s the way liberals look at the situation; they think that increased literacy will eradicate fundamentalist Islam. It does not. A highly-organized group like the Muslim Brotherhood could not get by through having a low literacy rate. In fact, the more people read into the Koran, the more radicalized they get (look at the former Cat Stevens).


45 posted on 12/17/2012 10:56:15 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

I would bet the thirty or forty percent of Egyptians opposed to Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhood are far more literate than their opponents. The great percentage of the illiterate Egyptians, like their illiterate counterparts in other Muslim countries, are far more likely to support radical Islam than the more educated Muslims. Like ignorant people everywhere, they’re easily led by demagogues. Like the one we have for president.


46 posted on 12/17/2012 3:32:56 PM PST by driftless2
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