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Michael Mann vs. NRO and Mark Steyn: It's Time to Rumble (Steyn sued for defamation of character)
American Thinker ^ | 12/17./2012 | Neil Snyder

Posted on 12/17/2012 7:26:49 AM PST by SeekAndFind

National Review Online (NRO) is currently running an ad/article explaining that Professor Michael Mann, the creator of the highly questionable "hockey stick" graph that global warming alarmists latched onto to pummel the entire world with dour warnings about the effects of man-made CO2 emissions on life as we know it, is suing NRO and Mark Steyn for defamation of character:

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"Let me recap: A lawsuit has been formally filed by Professor Michael Mann against National Review and Mark Steyn. You know Mann: The Penn State academic and self-proclaimed (and bogus) Nobel Peace Prize awardee best known, famously and infamously, for the "hockey stick" graph that allegedly proves that recent years were the hottest on record for more than a millennium.

Of course, he is also known for the scandal about embarrassing e-mails, pried out of the University of East Anglia's Climate Research Unit."

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According to Thomas Richard at examiner.com,

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"The suit is based on articles written by different authors at different times and can be found here, here, and here."

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Richard goes on to say,

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"In the lawsuit, Mann makes the claim that he has been "awarded the Nobel Peace Prize" in the complaint itself (page 2, paragraph 2). He premises much of his argument/suit that by winning such a prestigious prize, he has the right to sue the aforementioned authors for defamation of character.

I contacted the The Norwegian Nobel Institute to find out if Mann was indeed a Nobel Laureate, winner, etc... My questions were:

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: climatechange; environmentalism; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; marksteyn; memebuilding; michaelmann; nationalreview; partisanmediashill; partisanmediashills; randsimberg

1 posted on 12/17/2012 7:27:00 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

See here for the articles referenced:

http://www.openmarket.org/2012/07/13/the-other-scandal-in-unhappy-valley/

and here:

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/309442/football-and-hockey-mark-steyn

and here:

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/08/22/best-michael-mann-headline-evah/


2 posted on 12/17/2012 7:28:36 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Mr. Mann only has three things to fear with this law suit:

discovery, discovery and discovery!

3 posted on 12/17/2012 7:38:07 AM PST by Lockbox
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To: SeekAndFind
...the highly questionable "hockey stick" graph...

"Highly fraudulent" would be a better characterization.

4 posted on 12/17/2012 7:43:44 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Academic freedom includes the agreement that your publications will be reviewed by your peers. The way to answer criticism from your peers is to prove yourself right by scientific evidence (data).


5 posted on 12/17/2012 7:45:50 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: SeekAndFind
Mann is solely responsible for “defaming” his own character, via repeated and verifiable publication of lies, masquerading as science.
6 posted on 12/17/2012 7:47:58 AM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: SeekAndFind

From the graveyard of (not)forgotten favorites.

“Hide the Decline”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMqc7PCJ-nc


7 posted on 12/17/2012 7:51:32 AM PST by calico_thompson
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To: SeekAndFind

How do you defame a snake oil salesman?


8 posted on 12/17/2012 8:12:33 AM PST by littleharbour
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To: SeekAndFind

Mann does not have a chance of winning this.


9 posted on 12/17/2012 8:29:55 AM PST by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: SgtHooper

He probably knows he can’t win, but he can drag Steyn through the mud, and it will cost him hundreds of thousands in legal fees. It coud be an effective way to stifle conservative speech.


10 posted on 12/17/2012 8:58:44 AM PST by MrShoop
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To: SeekAndFind
Mann refused to release his data because he said it would be "misused" by the deniers.

If other scientists are not allowed to reproduce or refute your work, it ain't science, and it ain't peer-review.

11 posted on 12/17/2012 9:26:53 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the state." - Cornelius Tacitus, Roman Senator)
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To: littleharbour

Don’t you have to have character in order for it to be defamed?


12 posted on 12/17/2012 9:31:04 AM PST by foundedonpurpose (It's time for a fundamental restoration, of our country's principles!)
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To: SgtHooper

Funny that he uses his Nobel Prize to defend his character,

and we here would say winning that was actually proof of LACK OF CHARACTER.


13 posted on 12/17/2012 9:31:55 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrShoop
He probably knows he can’t win, but he can drag Steyn through the mud

I'm not that sure who will drag who through the mud.

This also gives a hint that Michael Mann's position is seriously threatened - so much that he must fight this battle against a formidable foe.

14 posted on 12/17/2012 9:32:30 AM PST by Greysard
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To: MrB

Mann is NOT a Nobel Laureate. The article gives the details.


15 posted on 12/17/2012 9:58:52 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: littleharbour

By comparing him to Michael Mann???

:)


16 posted on 12/17/2012 10:02:26 AM PST by stremba
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To: SeekAndFind

Mann does not have much tolerance for the freedoms of “deniers.”

I hope he loses his stinky shorts and is exposed as a manipulator in the process.


17 posted on 12/17/2012 10:15:16 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Lockbox

I emphatically concur with using Discovery.

1) Get some funding from people wanting to drive a stake into the heart of “Global Warming”.

2) use the courts to get access to all of Mann’s documents and emails

3) get Watt and Monkton and other “skeptics” to go through the stuff and prepare questions

4) Put Mann’s colleagues under oath to provide their take on emails sent to them

5) sell tickets and pass the popcorn

6) using all the above information, GRILL MANN UNDER OATH.


18 posted on 12/17/2012 11:17:11 AM PST by Mack the knife
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To: Slings and Arrows; MrB

“Mann is NOT a Nobel Laureate. The article gives the details.”

From the article:

“I contacted the The Norwegian Nobel Institute to find out if Mann was indeed a Nobel Laureate, winner, etc... My questions were:

1. Was Prof Michael Mann ‘awarded’ a Nobel Prize of any sort at any time? Is he a Nobel Laureate as implied elsewhere in his legal brief?

2. Did he receive a certificate “for contributing to” the IPCC Nobel Peace Prize? Is the photo of the certificate authentic? [see photo]

3. Is there a difference between stating you “were awarded” the Nobel Peace Prize as indicated by Mann in his legal brief and “contributing to” as shown in the attached photo of the certificate?

Geir Lundestad, Director, Professor, of The Norwegian Nobel Institute emailed me back with the following:

“1) Michael Mann has never been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.
2) He did not receive any personal certificate. He has taken the diploma awarded in 2007 to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (and to Al Gore) and made his own text underneath this authentic-looking diploma.
3) The text underneath the diploma is entirely his own. We issued only the diploma to the IPCC as such. No individuals on the IPCC side received anything in 2007.”

Lundestad goes on to say that, “Unfortunately we often experience that members of organizations that have indeed been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize issue various forms of personal diplomas to indicate that they personally have received the Nobel Peace Prize. They have not.”

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/12/michael_mann_vs_nro_and_mark_steyn_its_time_to_rumble.html#ixzz2FLYiQcS3


19 posted on 12/17/2012 1:33:56 PM PST by BwanaNdege ("To learn who rules over you simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"- Voltaire)
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To: SeekAndFind

The one good thing about a lawsuit is that it provides an opportunity for generally competent people on both sides of the issue to present their case to a often impartial and usually competent judge. He then is required to determine the “facts”, write them down, and then make a judgement based on those facts. it will be very tough for Mann to prevail in such an environment.


20 posted on 12/17/2012 6:10:11 PM PST by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: MrShoop

Mark has the $ to fight this, truth is an absolute defense, and when discovery proves mickey moron to be a fraud, many people who have been attacked by the left will have fattened wallets paid for by M. Moron and the university(PA if I remember). If this moron actually has filed suit, all of the universities(successful) work to protect the email and data from FOIA just got flushed, god I hope this is true. ALGORE must be wetting himself.


21 posted on 12/17/2012 6:16:48 PM PST by waynesa98
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To: SeekAndFind
Here's Mann's legal complaint: http://www.volokh.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/michael-mann-complaint.pdf

I just skimmed it without study. He certainly claims, more than, once that he shares a Nobel Prize. He also claims that his "Hockey Stick" chart is accurate. It seems simple to me that a single data point showing it's not true will exonerate Steyn and NRO. I believe there are thousands of reputable references that can prove that.

22 posted on 12/17/2012 6:27:54 PM PST by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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23 posted on 12/17/2012 7:54:35 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Obama should change his campaign slogan to "Yes, we am!" Sounds as stupid as his administration is.)
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