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Michael Gove's war on architecture: curves fail the test
Guardian UK ^ | 2Oct12 | Steve Rose

Posted on 12/17/2012 8:58:55 AM PST by Cvengr

A clampdown on so-called architectural extravagance means British schools will no longer feature anything other than straight lines. Why is the joy of curves lost on our education secretary?

That's Frank Gehry out of the running then. And don't expect to see any new schools paying homage to Antoni Gaudi, Buckminster Fuller, Le Corbusier or even Christopher Wren. And Zaha Hadid might have won the Stirling prize for a school last year (Brixton's Evelyn Grace Academy) but she can forget about building another one here any time soon, no thank you, Dame. You might want to check your child's pockets for protractors as well.

Why? Because the government has banned curves from new school buildings. Not just curves but also "faceted curves", indents, dog legs and notches. In other words, any shape you like as long as it's a plain box. The Department for Education is cracking down on what it saw as architectural extravagance in the now-scrapped Building Schools for The Future (BSF) programme. Its new "baseline designs", unveiled on Monday, call for affordable, stripped-down, purely functional school buildings. Nothing wrong with that per se, but in taking his war with architecture into abstract geometrical realms, Michael Gove is revealing the source of his secret trauma.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: architecture; schools
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To: demshateGod

Not necessarily. A more conventional form can be both economic and beautiful.

I think the guy is wrong too, but for a different reason. Good architecture and economics are not mutually exclusive if you hire someone who is really creative.


21 posted on 12/17/2012 10:41:45 AM PST by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: camle

Just use the nearest prison for design inspiration. Thats what all our newer high schools look like here.....prisons.


22 posted on 12/17/2012 10:45:36 AM PST by sheana
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To: demshateGod

if you have to waste taxpayer dollars to be a ‘superior’ culture, you ain’t. a ‘superior’ culture is one in which the government does not engage in grandiosity, but keeps things humble and efficient.

now if YOU wanted to spend YOUR money on something grandiose and foolish, then go right ahead.


23 posted on 12/17/2012 10:47:36 AM PST by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: Flick Lives
Reads like the efficiencies of the funicular and the catenary are straight out. ..and let's not even think of Felix Candela's hyperbolic paraboloid, nor the parabolic hyperboloid....;^(

Still standing after 62 years, with only 5/8 in thin concrete shell roof.

24 posted on 12/17/2012 10:50:36 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: camle

Strictly rectangular is grandiose and inefficient.


25 posted on 12/17/2012 10:52:56 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: camle

You’ve taken for granted some key words in your rebuttal. Waste, grandiosity, humble, efficient, and foolish are subjective. I don’t think any architect or municipality would advocate being arrogant, wasteful, grandiose, foolish, or inefficient.

Now if you believe there’s a maximum cost/sf that a municipality should employ based on some vetted considerations, they can live or die on those considerations. Calling for banality for its own sake, which seems to be what this joker is doing, is a whole other matter. Who would advocate such a thing? Believe me, many people are afraid of creative architecture and will default to tried and true (banal).


26 posted on 12/17/2012 11:01:17 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Cvengr

Ya’ll need some Soviet in your public building style?


27 posted on 12/17/2012 11:04:24 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Cvengr
Still standing after 62 years, with only 5/8 in thin concrete shell roof.

Still ugly too.

28 posted on 12/17/2012 11:06:26 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Fate plays chess and you don't find out until too late that he's been using two queens all along)
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To: Cvengr

This article is making a design specification sound like a ban. I’d rather see a demand for a density ratio or something like that, but I suspect Gove is suspecting monkey business with anything less than clear demands.


29 posted on 12/17/2012 11:15:19 AM PST by dangus
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To: Cvengr

My Goodness, that is hideous.


30 posted on 12/17/2012 11:18:10 AM PST by dangus
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To: demshateGod

i work in a public building. you should have seen all the drooling and extravagance that went into designing this mess. and the quality is horrendous. but don’t worry the taxpayers paid for it, and now with out higher operating costs and cuts to the budget, we’re losing people.
i know a lot of freepers dislike government employees, but...


31 posted on 12/17/2012 11:18:35 AM PST by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: Lorianne

I’m interested in forms that reflect their time. Convention, as it’s commonly understood, means “traditional” which really has no meaning for architecture. “Traditional” architecture is a manifestation of the considerations of a specific time and place. It’s not always transferable. What is called traditional is really derivative or thematic. The true tradition of architecture is innovation that matches cultural and physical constraints.

True conventions, many of them, are being negated by new technology such as visualization, documentation, and fabrication tools.


32 posted on 12/17/2012 11:27:55 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Cvengr

“Note: the no curve and straight line philosophy also applies to no eaves, no wings to the bldg, etc.”

No wings??? Are you saying that classic building design patterns are now being ruled out by building codes?


33 posted on 12/17/2012 11:28:31 AM PST by PastorBooks
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To: Cvengr

BFL


34 posted on 12/17/2012 11:31:15 AM PST by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: camle

Sounds like they wasted the tax payers’ money. There’s nothing wrong with working for government. Daniel worked for the government.


35 posted on 12/17/2012 11:31:22 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: DManA
I just don’t think Gehry will pass the test of time.

He's a legend that will last a lunchtime.

36 posted on 12/17/2012 11:37:11 AM PST by eddie willers
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To: dangus

One of the thinnest concrete shells ever built (1951). Designed as a Cosmic Ray Lab in Mexico City.


37 posted on 12/17/2012 12:41:52 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: PastorBooks

Note, no re-entrant corners.


38 posted on 12/17/2012 12:55:10 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Cvengr

The reason and the answer lies in the book...Fountianhead


39 posted on 12/17/2012 2:20:15 PM PST by Breto (The Establishment party is killing our country)
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To: demshateGod

No, traditional and convention are not the same.
Even so, tradition is not static or unadaptable. Its ‘time and place’ had endured for thousands of years.

All of architecture is derivative. New technology doesn’t fundementally change that.


40 posted on 12/17/2012 3:26:39 PM PST by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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