Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Michael Gove's war on architecture: curves fail the test
Guardian UK ^ | 2Oct12 | Steve Rose

Posted on 12/17/2012 8:58:55 AM PST by Cvengr

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-52 last
To: Cvengr

Still standing after 62 years ... unfortunately.


41 posted on 12/17/2012 3:28:31 PM PST by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: Lorianne

Do you find any other flavor of hypar appealing or do just prefer the rectangular brick concept?


42 posted on 12/17/2012 6:54:02 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | View Replies]

To: camle

We dislike government employees for a reason. With very few exceptions you are parasites.


43 posted on 12/17/2012 7:02:41 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: Cvengr

Buildings should look like bacon. A perfect balance of curve and rectangle.


44 posted on 12/17/2012 7:09:49 PM PST by Yardstick
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: PastorBooks

From http://archrecord.construction.com/news/2012/10/121017-Brits-Declare-War-on-School-Curves.asp

Michael Gove, Tory member of Parliament and the U.K.’s secretary of state for education since 2010, has declared a controversial war on “curves or ‘faceted’ curves” in school buildings—as well as “minimal indents, ‘dog legs,’ and notches in the plan shapes.” Folding partitions, glazed walls, roof terraces, and ETFE roofing are also banned.

...

At this year’s Venice Biennale, Aberrant Architecture, whose very name seems designed to offend Gove, created an installation in the British Pavilion inspired by Oscar Niemeyer’s experimental 1980s school-building program in Brazil. In and around Rio de Janeiro, Niemeyer and his collaborators built 508 precast concrete schools of standardized design. The architects proposed this radical scheme as a model for austerity in Britain, but Niemeyer’s Modernist designs would have failed Gove’s test. The undercrofts of these buildings are surrounded by arched loggias, and the facades are punctuated by lozenge-shaped windows. Even the Bauhaus had curves.


Taken to its logical conclusion, an indoor running track may not be an ellipse, but must be a rectangular running path.


45 posted on 12/17/2012 7:23:10 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: PastorBooks
Studying the criteria of Gove, I wonder if he hasn't perhaps made a quick study of the codes, without a working intuition of design.

Structurally and seismically, horizontal plan irregularities might require additional design effort, but this is different than an edict disallowing a final shape of a structure to have these appearances.

The below are typical irregularities which have special concerns when calculating structural design requirements. Maybe he read about this, but doesn't know how to design within the codes.


46 posted on 12/17/2012 7:41:11 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: Cvengr

“Maybe he read about this, but doesn’t know how to design within the codes.”

Sounds like it. When will we ever learn that micro-managing and centralized planning don’t work?


47 posted on 12/18/2012 2:18:01 AM PST by PastorBooks
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 46 | View Replies]

To: Lurker

lol~! gee thanx! ;-)


48 posted on 12/18/2012 4:34:57 AM PST by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 43 | View Replies]

To: Lorianne

Keystones are a good example of a traditional motif that shows up in contemporary architecture. Its typical role these days is ornamentation, but its original use was to hold up an arch.

Labor, cost, codes, and cultural constraints determines movements in architecture. I personally don’t want to see anymore EIFS keystones. The masses are comfortable with tradition, but tradition doesn’t mean style. I don’t know if architecture is the only art form that allows the masses to dictate its aesthetics, but they do, and they shouldn’t.

I believe digital fabrication is going to be the end of traditional architecture,and for that, I’m grateful. I hate postmodernism, but I’m glad it freed us from top down aesthetic taste. I believe much of what we call tradition has endured by quasi-force, like this guy in England is doing.

We’ll still have the old buildings around, and we should preserve them. I like the old buildings. What I don’t like is trying to reproduce them, or using their motifs in clumsy ways.

This is all my humble(but accurate) opinion. No, I don’t hate neo-traditionalists. What I hate is when architects design neo-traditional architecture even though they don’t like it.


49 posted on 12/18/2012 6:41:25 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]

To: demshateGod

Fake keystones are not what I’m talking about.

We could have architecture that is authentic. There is hokiness in so-called “traditional” architecture and in modern architecture as well. We don’t need to be wasting resources on hokiness.


50 posted on 12/18/2012 5:48:56 PM PST by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 49 | View Replies]

To: Cvengr

The fluted disk in interesting and I’m glad someone tries these things, but I don’t think this is architecture that is durable and userful for the long term. It’s a novelty.

Novelties are fine as far as they go. But these buildings have no context, they are objects in space, not what would make a cohesive fabric of useful buildings for our cities.


51 posted on 12/18/2012 5:55:13 PM PST by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 42 | View Replies]

To: Lorianne

Shape, form, and function.


52 posted on 12/18/2012 7:05:10 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 51 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-52 last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson