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In Recent Years, a Drop in Public Support for Gun Control Laws
Tecaucus ^ | MARJORIE CONNELLY

Posted on 12/17/2012 1:23:10 PM PST by An Old Man

Support for gun control measures has steadily dropped over the last decade, and previous mass shootings had little effect on public opinion about gun laws. It is too early to tell if the age and the number of the victims in the killings in Newtown, Conn., will now have an impact on attitudes toward gun control.

(Excerpt) Read more at thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com ...


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Hmmm... Is this posible?
1 posted on 12/17/2012 1:23:14 PM PST by An Old Man
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To: An Old Man

Just ask your local gun store how sales are. Way up.


2 posted on 12/17/2012 1:28:30 PM PST by pfflier
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To: An Old Man

Concealed carry has been passing in state after state. I think the people collectively are done with gun control. It’s only supported by the liberals. We’ll see if any republicans cave to the pressure but both the House and Senate are more conservative than they were even in the 90’s. Most of the old-guard moderates who bend with the winds are gone.


3 posted on 12/17/2012 1:28:30 PM PST by cotton1706
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To: An Old Man

1. CT has some of the most restrictive gun control laws in the nation.

2. The Brady group even ranks them 3rd in the nation for restrictive gun control laws.

It is very important to point out that if it’s about gun control laws then the CT shootings prove what a total failure they are.


4 posted on 12/17/2012 1:28:43 PM PST by Noamie
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To: An Old Man

The vulture media started running polls the night of the Newtown massacre. They seem to show a quick drop in opposition to gun control.

The question is whether the numbers will bounce back or not.

There’s a concerted effort by the Dems to exploit this and shape public opinion. I am of the opinion that guys like Mark Warner and Joe Manchin were “sleepers” on gun control: presenting the appearance of being pro gun rights but ready at a moments notice ( and the right event ) to flip their stances and do so in a way to draw public opinion along with them.


5 posted on 12/17/2012 1:30:20 PM PST by tanknetter
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To: cotton1706

In Michigan, Rick Snyder has a bill sitting on his desk right now that would allow guns on school grounds.


6 posted on 12/17/2012 1:33:08 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: tanknetter

I agree with you in many ways.

The Dems think that the single and narrow election of Obama was a Waterloo while ignoring that they got trounced in the House elections.

They will go too far. Time to make your calls and write those letters.

Gun control bigots and tyrants will never, ever, go away.


7 posted on 12/17/2012 1:35:56 PM PST by Noamie
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To: An Old Man

People don’t want the government to ROB THEM of their ability to defend themselves and their family and there are MANY liberals in this group! I know an avid 0bama supporter who’s proud of her .38, so much so that she sleeps with it under her pillow.


8 posted on 12/17/2012 1:38:10 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: Noamie

The democrats got trounced even worse in the states. Something like 24 are totally in GOP hands while 13 are under democrat control.


9 posted on 12/17/2012 1:39:19 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: An Old Man

“FAST AND FURIOUS” was a deliberate attempt by the DEMORATS as they staged and created it to decimate the support for the 2nd Amendment and that is why they are circling their wagons about the Lies and Fraud they perpetrated on the American Public! When the Truth comes out, there is not one major or minor Demorat Leader who must face Life in Prison without Parole! Actually, each should be sentenced to Death by a Firing Squad for Major Treason!


10 posted on 12/17/2012 1:48:10 PM PST by True Republican Patriot (May GOD SAVE OUR AMERICA from ALLAH and his Prophet, HUSSEIN OBAMA!!)
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To: An Old Man

It’s real simple.

I wish the teachers in those rooms where the evil maniac struck had been trained and armed as a requirement for possessing a teacher license.

And I wish each teacher in the school building was similarly trained and armed.

That is how to protect the children.


11 posted on 12/17/2012 1:53:41 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: True Republican Patriot

““FAST AND FURIOUS” was a deliberate attempt by the DEMORATS as they staged and created it to decimate the support for the 2nd Amendment...”

“Actually, each should be sentenced to Death by a Firing Squad for Major Treason!”

You know, that is closer to the truth than many are willing to express.


12 posted on 12/17/2012 1:56:30 PM PST by An Old Man
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To: An Old Man

The American people are WAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY too stupid, unimaginably stupid (just look at NOV and NOV 4 years ago), to be opposed to gun control for very long.


13 posted on 12/17/2012 2:01:38 PM PST by Doctor 2Brains
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To: An Old Man

****Support for gun control measures has steadily dropped over the last decade,****

Nonsense. It hit a brick wall called 9-11-2001. Up until then gun control was on a roll! When the World Trade Centers were destroyed, people suddenly woke up to the fact they just might need a military style rifle after all!


14 posted on 12/17/2012 2:12:22 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Reopen the mental institutions! Damn the ACLU!)
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To: An Old Man

Hmmmm.....recent years, uh......recent years, lets see uh.....what has been going on in recent years. Oh yea!! The nation is in a WAR ON TERROR, or something kinda like that right? You know, “terror” as in “terror-ist”. Those silly guys that tend to purposefully TARGET CIVILIANS for murder!


15 posted on 12/17/2012 2:14:24 PM PST by The Toll
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To: An Old Man

The school massacres only serve to exemplify why all citizens need to be armed, and most people are able to see that.


16 posted on 12/17/2012 2:19:43 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: cripplecreek

It needs to go beyond the “allow” idea and into require.

Teachers should have to qualify at a range before being allowed to teach. The safety of the kids cannot be ensured by any other means.


17 posted on 12/17/2012 2:24:16 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

I think you’re reading something wrong. 9/11 was indeed about ten years ago.


18 posted on 12/17/2012 2:53:16 PM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: An Old Man

It’s not just possible it’s reality.


19 posted on 12/17/2012 3:04:35 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: An Old Man

Remember that obamacare was unpopular with the general public too, by a large margin and was rammed down our throats by a democrat house, senate and president. Public be damn’d and the same general, public reelected the same bunch anyway.


20 posted on 12/17/2012 3:16:57 PM PST by Graybeard58 ("Civil rights” leader and MSNB-Hee Haw host Al Sharpton - Larry Elder)
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To: cotton1706
Concealed carry has been passing in state after state.

In some form, in all states but one.

Unfortunately, I live in that one.

21 posted on 12/17/2012 3:19:08 PM PST by Graybeard58 ("Civil rights” leader and MSNB-Hee Haw host Al Sharpton - Larry Elder)
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To: An Old Man

Thank you! I did not make my accusation without being extremely serious in my accusations! Is Law Enforcement finally going to arrest those who are so corrupt most of Us can’t fathom their corruption and Treasonous Actions against Our America!
Why is Obama HUSSEIN’S entire biographical History totally Hidden and Blinded from America? Why would the Media not question everything about a Republican and nothing about Obama HUSSEIN?


22 posted on 12/17/2012 3:22:02 PM PST by True Republican Patriot (May GOD SAVE OUR AMERICA from ALLAH and his Prophet, HUSSEIN OBAMA!!)
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To: editor-surveyor
It needs to go beyond the “allow” idea and into require.

My daughter teaches high school in a concealed carry state (Missouri) but she would lose her job if caught carrying in her school, the one place where it could absolutely come in handy.

(She's a good shot too.)

23 posted on 12/17/2012 3:24:01 PM PST by Graybeard58 ("Civil rights” leader and MSNB-Hee Haw host Al Sharpton - Larry Elder)
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To: An Old Man

I envision an armed teacher coming upon some nut in a class room about to shoot his 18th victim, aiming at him, firing a couple of rounds and hitting him but also hitting a child. That would be the whole focus of the incident. Not that he/she very likely saved another dozen or so victims.

He/she would be roundly vilified in the media and in the court room where the law suits would follow right after the criminal trial.


24 posted on 12/17/2012 3:28:46 PM PST by Graybeard58 ("Civil rights” leader and MSNB-Hee Haw host Al Sharpton - Larry Elder)
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To: xzins
And I wish each teacher in the school building was similarly trained and armed. That is how to protect the children.

And when the liberal Progressive objects you ask them...

"Are our children not worth that?"

25 posted on 12/17/2012 4:01:29 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: True Republican Patriot
““FAST AND FURIOUS” was a deliberate attempt by the DEMORATS as they staged and created it to decimate the support for the 2nd Amendment...”

“Actually, each should be sentenced to Death by a Firing Squad for Major Treason!”

Treason and mass murder. Over 300 Mexican citizens and two Federal agents were killed to accomplish their goal of overthrowing the 2nd Amendment.

26 posted on 12/17/2012 4:06:56 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: editor-surveyor

You say that teachers should be required to qualify at a range. At what shooting distances are we talking about here? Surely, you are not talking about the usual 25 yards or more. No?


27 posted on 12/17/2012 4:08:42 PM PST by OldPossum
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To: Graybeard58

Ick. So do I. But the states attorney in Mcclean county supposedly has declared some IL gun laws unenforceable under Heller, so he won’t prosecute. Another level to the game. One can hope it suggests potential for the eventual success of cc, even here.


28 posted on 12/17/2012 4:22:48 PM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: editor-surveyor

Agreed.


29 posted on 12/17/2012 4:25:54 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: cripplecreek

I’m curious about that. I had seen that elsewhere, but thought the “no guns on school grounds” law was Federal. Was I mistaken? Do you know?


30 posted on 12/17/2012 4:33:16 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Springfield Reformer
the states attorney in Mcclean county supposedly has declared some IL gun laws unenforceable under Heller

Just don't dare walk across that county line into Tazewell county where I live.

31 posted on 12/17/2012 4:39:07 PM PST by Graybeard58 ("Civil rights” leader and MSNB-Hee Haw host Al Sharpton - Larry Elder)
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To: FreedomPoster

I believe it came into being here in Michigan in the 90s but it can’t be federal because Rick Snyder has a bill on his desk that will permit guns on school grounds. I believe Texas is one of the states that already allows it.


32 posted on 12/17/2012 4:50:41 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek; FreedomPoster
The Gun-Free School Zones Act of 1990 is most definitely a FedMob law although the list of exceptions may cover the proposed law in MI.

Just because the FedMob declares something illegal doesn't mean the states can't or won't have laws to the contrary. I submit OR and CO marijuana laws as an example.

33 posted on 12/17/2012 5:46:23 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: TigersEye
Just because the FedMob declares something illegal doesn't mean the states can't or won't have laws to the contrary. I submit OR and CO marijuana laws as an example.

I must admit that I truly enjoy the increasingly rebellious states. The response from the Michigan GOP to Obama about RTW is beautiful.

December 10, 2012

Michigan Republican Party chairman Bobby Schostak issued the following statement in response to President Obama’s visit to Michigan today:

“It’s interesting that President Obama has chosen to stop in Michigan to propose his economic recovery plan of higher taxes, more spending and broken budgets. Here in Michigan we’ve seen actual economic recovery by streamlining government, cutting taxes and balancing budgets.

“The President’s divisive message and attack on Michigan workers is just another indication of how out of touch Pres. Obama has become. President Obama’s continued attempt to subvert state rights is an assult on our federal system.

“I encourage the former law professor and our current President brush up on the Tenth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, ‘The powers not delegated to the United states by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.’

“The President’s stance is a blatant attack on Michigan workers and demonstrates the President’s staunch support of special interest union bosses. Thankfully, Michigan Republican leaders are here to provide a firewall for Michigan workers and their families and to keep Michigan’s turnaround on course.”

34 posted on 12/17/2012 5:57:46 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek
I shouldn't be but I was amazed that 0bamugabe went to MI to demagogue a state issue. That act was one that made me sure he would demagogue gun control on the very day of the CT massacre. He did. Then again at the memorial service. He acts exactly like a two-bit third world thug. Anyway, good for the MI GOP for calling him out on it. I think I am most amazed that more people don't.

AZ is another state that has refused to be bullied.

35 posted on 12/17/2012 6:13:35 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: cripplecreek

Oh wow! Thanks for posting, that is just excellent.

I should send that to Nathan Deal to make sure he has seen it.


36 posted on 12/17/2012 7:08:26 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FreedomPoster

Here’s the website.

http://www.migop.org/index.php/details/news/michigan-republican-party-chairman-bobby-schostak-issued-the-following-stat/


37 posted on 12/17/2012 7:15:17 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: TigersEye

And now we learn that the Mexican Beauty Queen was Killed by a FAST AND FURIOUS WEAPON found at the scene of her murder!


38 posted on 12/18/2012 3:19:48 PM PST by True Republican Patriot (May GOD SAVE OUR AMERICA from ALLAH and his Prophet, HUSSEIN OBAMA!!)
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To: True Republican Patriot
Is that right? mmm mmm mmm

I will have to find some articles on that to bookmark.

39 posted on 12/18/2012 3:24:15 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: TigersEye

Its the second article posted under Breaking News and is listed on Drudge at this very moment!


40 posted on 12/18/2012 3:27:30 PM PST by True Republican Patriot (May GOD SAVE OUR AMERICA from ALLAH and his Prophet, HUSSEIN OBAMA!!)
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To: True Republican Patriot
Thank you. I will find it and get it bookmarked.
Glad to hear that Drudge has it up.
41 posted on 12/18/2012 3:32:04 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: True Republican Patriot

I congratulated Drudge too quickly. It’s not on his site anymore. His coverage of F&F in general has been pathetic FWIW.


42 posted on 12/18/2012 4:16:21 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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