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Congrats, Barry. US falls out of top 10 most prosperous nations
American Thinker ^ | 12/17/2012 | Rick Moran

Posted on 12/17/2012 1:59:59 PM PST by SeekAndFind

You know that period between sleep and wakefulness where you're not quite sure you're still dreaming? I read this blog item at Powerline and had the exact same reaction:

Via InstaPundit, we learn that for the first time, the United States does not rank as one of the world's ten most prosperous nations, as rated by London's Legatum Institute. The authors of the report found that the U.S.'s slippage is being driven by "a decline in the number of US citizens who believe that hard work will get them ahead." Well, they're right: in Barack Obama's America, hard work doesn't cause you to get ahead; being politically connected does. We are all paying the price for the corruption of the Age of Obama.

Consistent with this finding is the fact that for the first time in history, the average Canadian is wealthier than the average American. Canada has a conservative government, and they have passed us like we are standing still. Which we are, at best.

All of which raises the question: do Barack Obama and his minions want America to be one of the world's ten most prosperous countries? If you believe, as I do, that actions speak louder than words, the answer is No.


(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bho44; bhoeconomy; obamalegacy; prosperity; prosperousnations; top10

1 posted on 12/17/2012 2:00:02 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

bttt


2 posted on 12/17/2012 2:01:25 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: SeekAndFind

>>the U.S.’s slippage is being driven by “a decline in the number of US citizens who believe that hard work will get them ahead.”

Now its official: in the Obamanation, “Work is fo’ Suckas!”


3 posted on 12/17/2012 2:04:47 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: SeekAndFind

Clearly Bush’s fault.


4 posted on 12/17/2012 2:12:54 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Republicans have made themselves useless, toothless, and clueless.)
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To: SeekAndFind

On the list of the World’s 10 Most Preposterous Nations, we are rising with a bullet howeve.


5 posted on 12/17/2012 2:15:16 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SeekAndFind
Articles like this crack me up, they didn't even mention the other countries ahead of us. The list is filled with socialistic democracies; yeah, we should want to be number 1 in that utopian world view.

1-Norway
2-Denmark
3-Sweden
4-Australia
5-NZ
6-Canada
7-Finland
8-Netherlands
9-Switzerland
10-Ireland
11-Luxemburg
12- US

What a joke.

6 posted on 12/17/2012 2:16:10 PM PST by Theoria (Romney is a Pyrrhic victory.)
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To: SeekAndFind
"...do Barack Obama and his minions want America to be one of the world's ten most prosperous countries?"

He's a communist implementing Cloward-Piven. Of course he does NOT want America to be properous.

7 posted on 12/17/2012 2:16:36 PM PST by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: Theoria

All 11 have hot looking women. There must be a correlation.


8 posted on 12/17/2012 2:18:28 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Bryanw92
in the Obamanation, “Work is fo’ Suckas!”

I'm reminded of that every time I stand behind some jag-off in the supermarket checkout line who buys food I can't afford with an EBT card and, often as not, drives away in a car I can't afford either.

9 posted on 12/17/2012 2:18:35 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Theoria
Articles like this crack me up, they didn't even mention the other countries ahead of us.

Thank you. I was looking also. Will you post a link for the list please?

10 posted on 12/17/2012 2:44:44 PM PST by thouworm (.)
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To: Theoria

Wow, a hard-core socialist country like Sweden is considered “prosperous” by these list compilers. IKEA is doing pretty well in the US, maybe that’s the main reason for Sweden’s “prosperity”. More like the government is prospering from the extremely high taxe dollars it confiscates from it’s citizens. Other than that I just wonder what criterion they are using to deem Sweden a propserous nation. And why isn’t Cuba on the list??? /sarc


11 posted on 12/17/2012 2:46:13 PM PST by BombHollywood
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To: Theoria

None of those countries have to pay reparations like the US does.


12 posted on 12/17/2012 2:50:36 PM PST by AmusedBystander (The philosophy of the school room in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next)
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To: SeekAndFind
All of which raises the question: do Barack Obama and his minions want America to be one of the world's ten most prosperous countries?

Hint: don't watch what he says, watch what he does.

nobama is angling for a turd world banana republic with him a dicktator for life.

Don't believe me? Name one project he has undertaken since 2008 that has made America better. Name just one.

13 posted on 12/17/2012 2:59:19 PM PST by upchuck (America's at an awkward stage. Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The problems we face

today exist because the

people who work for a living

are outnumbered by those who

vote for a living!


14 posted on 12/17/2012 3:02:20 PM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Steven Harper rules. I was really hoping America wouldn’t lurch farther to the left and you lot would vote in a President who would benefit the country amd work closer with our Conservative govt. Hopefully next time, otherwise I’m afraid the US will be too far down the rabbit hole.

One thing is clear, this young generation of Americans coming up are out oftheir minds.


15 posted on 12/17/2012 3:07:59 PM PST by Catholic Canadian
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To: thouworm
Here is their website. And this is a summary of their findings[15mb-pdf].

Full of funny stuff, ironically, 'they' contend our health system is the #2 in the world, that might disappoint other socialist.

16 posted on 12/17/2012 3:09:43 PM PST by Theoria (Romney is a Pyrrhic victory.)
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To: central_va
All 11 have hot looking women. There must be a correlation.

They are also all white. Is this racist?

17 posted on 12/17/2012 3:10:25 PM PST by oldbrowser (Put Obama in check, now.)
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To: AmusedBystander

Nor do they police the world.


18 posted on 12/17/2012 3:11:38 PM PST by Theoria (Romney is a Pyrrhic victory.)
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To: Theoria

I believe if you broke this up into fifty states....Alabama might rise higher than the US itself.


19 posted on 12/17/2012 3:12:25 PM PST by pepsionice
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To: Vigilanteman

the ebt cards and food above my budget tick me off too I have followed them out to the parking lot and noticed extremely nice vehicles watches, jewelry etc....I feel sorry for those in need but its sometimes obvious who is irresponsible and not that needy and I have been known to loudly ask the clerk do you still accept hard earned cash here or do I need food stamps?


20 posted on 12/17/2012 3:17:11 PM PST by rolling_stone
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To: SeekAndFind

WOO HOO...!

WE’RE NUMBER 12!
WE’RE NUMBER 12!

All according to plan... Right? You worthless ignorant Marxist POS!


21 posted on 12/17/2012 3:18:31 PM PST by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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To: Theoria

I wouldn’t trash some of the countries on that list.

Let’s pick one country for instance — SWEDEN.

The general thinking is that taxes are high and it is a welfare state.

However, read this part :

http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/10/the_swedish_model_government_austerity.html

Sweden, like Norway, is often held up as a country which is “socialist and successful.” For example, Sweden has high taxes yet also has had healthy economic growth recently. In this century so far, Sweden’s total tax bite amounted to 52% of GDP, while the U.S.’s was 32%. Yet Sweden’s real GDP grew 2.3% per year from 2001 to 2011, and ours grew only 1.6% per year. Prima facie evidence that high taxes don’t kill an economy, right?

In July I deconstructed the Norwegian “Miracle,” the other “socialist and successful” country. It’s Sweden’s turn now.
Sweden, like Norway, consists of a small, not very diverse, mostly white and Christian people. Its population is 9.1 million — a bit less than North Carolina’s. (There are 13 cities in the world with bigger populations.) Not only are native Swedes white, but so are most of Sweden’s immigrants. The CIA World Factbook lists its immigrants as “Finns, Yugoslavs, Danes, Norwegians, Greeks, Turks.” And 85% of that population is Lutheran; 85% live in cities — 22% in the Stockholm area itself.

But unlike Norway, which is swimming in oil, Sweden is not richer than the U.S. On a GDP per capita basis (Purchasing Power Parity), the U.S. is 20% richer than Sweden. So Sweden has enjoyed somewhat faster growth than the U.S., at least over some cherry-picked periods of time, but it has not caught up to us in over three decades.

In 1980, Sweden was 81% as rich as us; 31 years later, 83%. That’s not much movement on Sweden’s part. In fact, even that 2% difference all came in the last year, 2011 (the last year of available data), not exactly a banner year for the U.S.

The real story of Sweden is the exact opposite of a “socialist success story.” The real story is that big government stifles growth and that what works is austerity. The real story of Sweden comes in two parts: pre-1993 and post-1993, or the quasi-socialist years and the austerity years.

From 1980 through 1997, Sweden’s government spent more than all other advanced economies as a fraction of GDP. It peaked at 68% of GDP in 1993, an all-time record for advanced economies.

And how did that “socialism” work for Sweden? Its economy grew only 1.4% per year from 1980 to 1993, when the U.S. was growing 3.0% per year. And over those last five years, 1988-1993, it stopped growing altogether — 0% growth. It fell farther behind the U.S: from 81% as rich to 72% as rich. Its debt grew to 70% of GDP.

In short, government spending in Sweden had the effect that free-market types always predict: slow growth and high debt. Government spending does not stimulate; it stifles, and it sticks our kids with the bill.

Around 1993, Sweden’s government changed its behavior: it started spending less. By 2011 it was spending “only” 49% of GDP. While that is still pretty high, that represents a cut of 19% of GDP, or about what the entire federal government of the U.S. spent each year in most of the Clinton and Bush years.

By 1998, Sweden was no longer Europe’s biggest spender. By 2011, it had dropped to 9th place of 34 advanced economies. Sweden’s government is still big, but not near the biggest, and it lost a lot of weight — the equivalent of shedding the weight of the entire federal government of the U.S.

That is what I call “austerity”: the government simply spending less. And how did that work out for Sweden? Since 1993, its economy grew 2.8% per year, or double its previous rate, while ours grew only 2.5% per year. Its debt was cut from a high of 73% of GDP to 37%.

SNIP SNIP

Sweden’s debt was cut from 73% of GDP in 1996 to 37% in 2011. Do you know what U.S. government debt did during those same years? It rose from 70% of GDP to over 100%! What’s more, the U.S. government did all that in just the last four years.

It took Sweden 12 years to cut its debt by 35% of GDP. It took the U.S. just four years to increase its debt by 35% of GDP. We are taking Sweden’s example and turning it on its head.

Look at Pew’s summary of what Sweden did and compare it to what the U.S. is doing now.

Sweden “enacted a large deficit reduction plan.” The U.S. has had deficits in excess of a trillion dollars each year that Obama has been president. President Obama’s latest budget plans for a debt that skyrockets to infinity.
Sweden “reduced its subsidies for medical and dental care.” The U.S. passed ObamaCare in 2010, calling for a whole new class of subsidies.

Sweden “indexed certain taxes and increased contribution rates for the unemployment benefit system” (although it reduced the fraction of GDP it took in as revenues — see below). Obama makes up tax policy as he goes along, increasing rates on everything from tanning beds to medical devices, and cutting payroll taxes, the very taxes that fund Social Security and Medicare, which actuaries expect to go broke in the next decade or two.

And, of course, Sweden simply cut government spending. Government spending in the U.S. is at post-war record highs. The federal government in particular has been spending over 24% of GDP in every year of Obama’s presidency, a significant increase over the 16 years that preceded Obama (which averaged 19.7% of GDP).

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/10/the_swedish_model_government_austerity.html#ixzz2FM0bTXrN


22 posted on 12/17/2012 3:20:27 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: Theoria
SWEDEN's STORY IN TWO CHARTS:



23 posted on 12/17/2012 3:21:45 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Are we still in the top 20? Probably for this year, right?


24 posted on 12/17/2012 3:26:43 PM PST by GOPJ (Detroit should be renamed 'Michael Mooresville'...)
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To: SeekAndFind
We all define prosperity differently. I hope you don't want to argue that Sweden isn't big on the welfare state purely based on taxes and such.

Based on cursory ideas, they have socialized medicine, compulsory military service, etc.

Sweden and similar countries benefit from our policing and spending. They freeload, if we didn't spend the amounts we did, our total spending and debts would be smaller as well.

Other list have Singapore and HK as number 1 and 2 or such, but countries like that DO not have the freedoms we have.

25 posted on 12/17/2012 3:28:38 PM PST by Theoria (Romney is a Pyrrhic victory.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Oh please, on the World stage of economics, we’re all winners...


26 posted on 12/17/2012 3:28:50 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: Theoria

Liberals will turn our country into a third world shith*le before they’re through... wait, you’ll see.


27 posted on 12/17/2012 3:29:43 PM PST by GOPJ (Detroit should be renamed 'Michael Mooresville'...)
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To: Theoria

thanks!

“’they’ contend our health system is the #2 in the world, that might disappoint other socialist.”

Funny you should mention that. I just heard our health system was #37. Source wasn’t mentioned, but I am going to try to locate. Obamacare is just getting underway; I don’t see how 37 is possible... just yet.


28 posted on 12/17/2012 3:41:10 PM PST by thouworm (.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The ObamaNation.


29 posted on 12/17/2012 3:43:06 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: Vigilanteman

You forgot to mention the smartphone and the gold necklace.


30 posted on 12/17/2012 4:01:07 PM PST by AZLiberty (No tag today.)
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To: oldbrowser

And non-Hispanic.


31 posted on 12/17/2012 4:03:10 PM PST by AZLiberty (No tag today.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Bump


32 posted on 12/17/2012 6:11:22 PM PST by lowbridge (Joe Biden: "Look, the Taliban per se is not our enemy.")
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To: SeekAndFind

bttt


33 posted on 12/17/2012 6:19:31 PM PST by Luigi Vasellini (End the political class.......TERM LIMITS NOW!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: central_va

>>>All 11 have hot looking women. There must be a correlation.

Pictures might help prove your point. :)


34 posted on 12/17/2012 8:24:45 PM PST by Hop A Long Cassidy
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To: DJ Taylor

Yes agreed.

However the solution is to bring back jobs.

Right now, we are going the wrong direction.


35 posted on 12/17/2012 8:27:17 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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