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A ‘fiscal cliff’ deal is near: Here are the details
Washington Post - Wonkblog ^ | 17 Dec 12 | Erza Klein

Posted on 12/17/2012 2:11:44 PM PST by SkyPilot

Edited on 12/17/2012 2:34:13 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

All at once, a “fiscal cliff” deal seems to be coming together. Speaker John Boehner’s latest offer doesn’t go quite far enough for the White House to agree, but it goes far enough that many think they can see the agreement taking shape.


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TOPICS: Breaking News; Government
KEYWORDS: boehner; deal; entitlements; fireboehner; fiscalcliff; fiscalcliffdeal; taxes
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To: rarestia
The photo is from several weeks ago. That's the only photo the MSM prints. There's nothing more recent because Obama and Boehner haven't met since then (except for today's meeting for which there are no photos).

This one is a snapshot in time. They just wanted to get the millisecond in the meeting which portrayed Obama as in command.

21 posted on 12/17/2012 2:24:07 PM PST by what's up
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To: Gadsden1st
Boner always look either beat or about to break out in tears.

This is because this is the only kind of photo the MSM will ever publish of him.

22 posted on 12/17/2012 2:25:33 PM PST by what's up
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To: Eleutheria5

He looks beat because he was up all night consulting with his longtime adviser, Jack Daniels.


23 posted on 12/17/2012 2:27:05 PM PST by bimboeruption (Clinging to my Bible and my HK.)
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To: SkyPilot

Buffet wants the abolisment of the inheritance tax exemption. Why? buffet sells death tax insurance.


24 posted on 12/17/2012 2:29:03 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: rarestia
That photograph is from 10-12 days ago. When it first came out, I agreed that Boehner looked drunk or hungover as well.

There are no photographs of the two sides released to the press from today. That is another reason why I believe the deal is basically done. When things get quiet, and the leaks stop, then you know people are under orders to wait and not leak. Why?

Because you will (as a lower level aid) get your A$$ handed to you if you leak too much when a deal is almost done. The Big Boys want the credit. The two sides will NEVER hold a joint press conference on something like this. That is reserved for war time or when Washington wants to present a "united front" to the world. No, in this case there will be two press conferences.

One by the Republicans (claiming victory) and one by the Democrats (claiming victory).

HOWEVER - because this deal has things in it both sides hate, expect muted enthusiasm.

It also has to be voted on. But, once the public buys off on it, they votes will be there.

25 posted on 12/17/2012 2:29:50 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot
They're going to take our money AND our freedom.

Isn't Obamaland great?
26 posted on 12/17/2012 2:30:08 PM PST by Tzimisce (What do you do when every every branch of the government is corrupt and aligned against you?)
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To: Eleutheria5

“The Won is looking too smug, and Boner is looking beat”
or
Won beat Boner

sorry


27 posted on 12/17/2012 2:33:23 PM PST by alphadog (2nd Bn. 3rd Marines, Vietnam, class of 68)
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To: SkyPilot

I’ve always said when/if SS had to be trimmed (or cut, or reduced, or COLA reduced - pick your term), it should be when a Dem is president so they should have to take the heat. Back when Bush tried any SS reform back in 05, he had his head handed to him.

When something bad has to be done, make the other side take the heat for it.


28 posted on 12/17/2012 2:35:50 PM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: SkyPilot

So Obama gets what he wants (taxing the rich more and keeping tax cuts for the middle class) and the Reps take the blame for reducing benefits to old people and future retirees. Such a deal. The Dems will use this in 2014 to get back control of the House. Such a deal.


29 posted on 12/17/2012 2:37:16 PM PST by kabar
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To: Eleutheria5

The words of Charlton Heston in TPOTA after regaining his voice come to mind....

30 posted on 12/17/2012 2:38:47 PM PST by mikrofon (That's awful .... CH was one of those "gun fanatics" /s)
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To: frogjerk
This all sounds vaguely like business as usual in Washington. Tax increases locked in. Cuts to be ‘discussed’ somewhere down the line. So we avert the fiscal cliff frying pan, only to be thrown into the financial Armageddon fire.
31 posted on 12/17/2012 2:44:50 PM PST by fhayek
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To: SkyPilot

Have we built the border fence yet that the Democrats promised Reagan in exchange for his amnesty for illegals?


32 posted on 12/17/2012 2:47:30 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: SkyPilot

” Hints at lowering COLA for SS and pensions”

***

Might as well not pay the cost of living at all. Just received a notice from SS that COLA will go up 1.7%. Big whup! Meanwhile, my Medicare supplement premium is going up 15%.


33 posted on 12/17/2012 2:48:39 PM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: babble-on

If the deal is as reported here, the Left is going to throw a major tantrum and will never accept.

- No increase in rates, only closing loopholes
- Eeeeevil Rich does not start at $250K
- Cuts in SS/Medicare are a non-starter

Unless he can head fake them all by cramming through some sort of gun control measure Barry’s got trouble to his left on this.


34 posted on 12/17/2012 2:52:20 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SkyPilot
But what negotiation has nobama been involved in? What concessions has he agreed to?

NONE!!

Boehner is just caving big time. Completely disgusting!!

35 posted on 12/17/2012 2:54:11 PM PST by upchuck (America's at an awkward stage. Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: SkyPilot

Setting the stage for the next act, the end of the 2nd amendment.


36 posted on 12/17/2012 2:54:32 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: fatnotlazy
Just received a notice from SS that COLA will go up 1.7%. Big whup! Meanwhile, my Medicare supplement premium is going up 15%.

In order to "give" away "FREE" health care for all of Obama's do-nothings, everyone's health care premiums are going up.

My sister-in-law is a big atheist liberal, who was shocked that her own health care coverage was skyrocketing. Amazing.

My TRICARE premiums are up more than 15%, and will probably quadruple in the next five years.

37 posted on 12/17/2012 2:54:42 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot

What tripe. Just go over the fiscal cliff and save several hundred thousand people in the middle East, and protect the People from an out of control government at home, that cannot hurt people if it hasn’t got the money to do so.


38 posted on 12/17/2012 2:57:33 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Unless he can head fake them all by cramming through some sort of gun control measure Barry’s got trouble to his left on this.


Amnesty is next. I expect a big roll out during the SOTU. The kenyan just leads Boehner from one crisis to the next.


39 posted on 12/17/2012 2:57:48 PM PST by lodi90
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To: SkyPilot

http://legalinsurrection.com/2012/12/emerging-fiscal-cliff-deal-in-two-words/


40 posted on 12/17/2012 2:59:11 PM PST by Perdogg (Rep. Tom McClintock (R-CA4) for President 2016)
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