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A Call To Ban Steak Knives
BBC.co.uk ^ | 5/2005 | BBC news

Posted on 12/17/2012 3:14:02 PM PST by Typical_Whitey

A&E doctors are calling for a ban on long pointed kitchen knives to reduce deaths from stabbing. A team from West Middlesex University Hospital said violent crime is on the increase - and kitchen knives are used in as many as half of all stabbings.

They argued many assaults are committed impulsively, prompted by alcohol and drugs, and a kitchen knife often makes an all too available weapon.

The research is published in the British Medical Journal.

The researchers said there was no reason for long pointed knives to be publicly available at all.

They consulted 10 top chefs from around the UK, and found such knives have little practical value in the kitchen.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.bbc.co.uk ...


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KEYWORDS: bans; guncontrol; liberals; secondamendment; ungland
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Well, this is evidence that like Healthcare reform any cave to allowing bans on guns will ultimately result in limiting our Constitutional rights further and further until the leftwing radicals eventually take our steak knives away from us. In their emotional politicizing of this tragedy they have shown their true colors and many are going to jump onboard to deny us our rights. Remember they didn't used to make you pay taxes to support abortion at one time either.
1 posted on 12/17/2012 3:14:04 PM PST by Typical_Whitey
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To: Typical_Whitey

Awesome. Next they will call to ban razors so we can’t shave, and sharp scissors so we can’t cut our hair . . .


2 posted on 12/17/2012 3:15:57 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Typical_Whitey
...violent crime is on the increase - and kitchen knives are used in as many as half of all stabbings.

Ban the other half then...I need to chop things./sarc

3 posted on 12/17/2012 3:17:27 PM PST by libertarian27 (Check my profile page for the FReeper Online Cookbook 2011)
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To: Typical_Whitey

I think they have a law in place to where all knives have to have rounded points. Starting with kitchen knives. No more sharp points.


4 posted on 12/17/2012 3:18:26 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: Typical_Whitey

When Robert Bruce defeated the English at Bannockburn, many of the Scots were using their farming tools as weapons.

Do these idiots not realize what a good weapon many every day objects will make?

Eventually they will ban axes, shovels, hatchets, pickaxes, screwdriviers, long sticks, rocks, etc.

There will always be weapons no matter what they do.


5 posted on 12/17/2012 3:19:48 PM PST by yarddog (One shot one miss.)
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To: Typical_Whitey

Teenager kills 8, wounds 5 in China knife attack

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2913674/posts

a recent , more “successful” knifer...


6 posted on 12/17/2012 3:20:47 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: Typical_Whitey
Knives yes! Let’s not forget potato peelers. I took off the end of one of my fingers yesterday with a potato peeler. I demand that something be done! And aspirin, because I take 1/4 grain every day, I almost bled to death! snort)))))):)
7 posted on 12/17/2012 3:20:55 PM PST by Ditter
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To: Typical_Whitey

Next they’ll have to ban angle grinders after someone figures out how to grind a butter knife to a point...


8 posted on 12/17/2012 3:20:59 PM PST by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (Some cultures are destined to remain stupid and we need to quit trying to uplift them.)
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To: Typical_Whitey

Here’s a good example of how far it has gone in the UK, & this was over two years ago:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1266170/Disabled-caravanner-prosecuted-keeping-penknife-car-use-picnics.html


9 posted on 12/17/2012 3:25:20 PM PST by MCF
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To: SkyDancer

It may be blunt, but what if it’s still sharp? What if someone gets slashy with it? All knives should be blunt and dull.


10 posted on 12/17/2012 3:25:45 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives. "A long train of abuses and usurpations.")
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To: yarddog

The brain is the ultimate weapon. What the brain uses as a weapon depends on circumstances.

What the leftists really want to do is ban brains.


11 posted on 12/17/2012 3:26:14 PM PST by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: Typical_Whitey

This is a satire, right?

After all, only progressives could be that stupi...er...never mind.


12 posted on 12/17/2012 3:26:29 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: ZirconEncrustedTweezers

ban rocks and stones,too. Indians used to make arrowheads that way.

imagine that mixed with peyote! instant domestic violence!
praise allah they had no NFL football on TV.


13 posted on 12/17/2012 3:26:54 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: Typical_Whitey

In Mexico they say, “Don’t drink the water.”

This article gives insight into why in England they say “Don’t eat the food.”


14 posted on 12/17/2012 3:28:09 PM PST by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: ZirconEncrustedTweezers

The grinder itself is a FAR better weapon. And a cordless 4 in grinder will hack off/into body parts with impunity.

Ask me how I know. (And they REALLY hurt when they kick back....


15 posted on 12/17/2012 3:28:25 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Typical_Whitey

When they outlaw steak knives then only outlaws will eat top sirloin.


16 posted on 12/17/2012 3:28:39 PM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

I’ve never managed to cut anything with my angle grinder (mine’s a 4 1/2”) that I didn’t intend to cut, but I did manage to drill into my left thumb once.


17 posted on 12/17/2012 3:30:25 PM PST by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (Some cultures are destined to remain stupid and we need to quit trying to uplift them.)
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To: Typical_Whitey

Are we sure this isn’t the Brits version of The Onion?


18 posted on 12/17/2012 3:35:55 PM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: ZirconEncrustedTweezers

I was cutting a metal tube and the wheel fragmented. Grinder kicked back hard and went half-way through my left index finger into the bone.

Through a leather welding glove.

Nothing a little duct tape couldn’t cure ;)

Seriously though, and I’m sure you are well aware, they are far more destructive than any knife ever invented.. Better ban them.


19 posted on 12/17/2012 3:36:04 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Flycatcher

Ha!


20 posted on 12/17/2012 3:37:18 PM PST by backtobasics
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To: Typical_Whitey

insanity


21 posted on 12/17/2012 3:37:32 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Typical_Whitey

I would think twice before eating steak in UK.


22 posted on 12/17/2012 3:38:29 PM PST by Morris70
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To: Typical_Whitey

I am thinking they would not appreciate my collection of "steak knives" across the pond there...

23 posted on 12/17/2012 3:39:05 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Typical_Whitey
Will flint become a controlled substance, next?

Or perhaps, citing biting incidents per capita, will they demand children's canine teeth be pulled?/s

24 posted on 12/17/2012 3:39:51 PM PST by fattigermaster
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To: Typical_Whitey
"Wanna get Capone? Here's how you get him. He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue. He pulls a knife, you pull a spork. That's the Chicago way, and that's how you get Capone."


25 posted on 12/17/2012 3:40:49 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: yarddog

So much for shovel ready...


26 posted on 12/17/2012 3:41:16 PM PST by Typical_Whitey (The political mirage of something for nothing; has ruined many a nation.)
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To: Typical_Whitey

This isn’t a spoof?????


27 posted on 12/17/2012 3:41:47 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: Da Coyote

Nope not satire, Leftist agenda


28 posted on 12/17/2012 3:42:48 PM PST by Typical_Whitey (The political mirage of something for nothing; has ruined many a nation.)
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To: Typical_Whitey
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29 posted on 12/17/2012 3:44:01 PM PST by rfp1234 (Arguing with a liberal is like playing chess with a pigeon.)
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To: billorites

In the wrong hands that spork could be classified as a weapon of mass destruction...


30 posted on 12/17/2012 3:45:05 PM PST by Typical_Whitey (The political mirage of something for nothing; has ruined many a nation.)
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To: freeangel

My thoughts, too; kept waiting for the joke to be revealed. But no, serious as can be. Typical liberal/socialist approach: punish everybody.

Not much difference here or there between being a subject and a citizen these days.


31 posted on 12/17/2012 3:45:53 PM PST by Captain Rhino (Determined effort is the hammer that Human Will uses to forge Tomorrow on the anvil of Today.)
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To: rfp1234

Don’t forget about passionfruit, oranges, apples, grapefruit (whole and segmented), pomegranates, greengages, grapes, lemons, plums, mangoes in syrup, and cherries (red and black). Oh yes, and bananas.

But what if he comes at you with a pointed stick?


32 posted on 12/17/2012 3:48:43 PM PST by AZLiberty (No tag today.)
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To: MCF

Exactly the radical leftwingers and their tyrannical progressivism it is a disease. You would think that the Republicans would get a clue and start instructing the people just how far leftwing wackooo these nuts want to change the country... This is Obama’s agenda and they are trying to make it mainstream by raising the bar on the right ever notice how even moderate republicans are now being called right wing radicals because they won’t cowtow to Obama’s socialist fiscal policy. You have to fight fire with fire... Every Republican at every event on every media outlet needs to start out by calling the left a radical ideological movement that wants to repeal the constitution. DEFINE THEM and we win.


33 posted on 12/17/2012 3:49:56 PM PST by Typical_Whitey (The political mirage of something for nothing; has ruined many a nation.)
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To: Norm Lenhart
I was cutting a metal tube and the wheel fragmented.

They just don't work as well with that annoying guard on, do they.

34 posted on 12/17/2012 4:01:02 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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To: Typical_Whitey

Are you sure John Simmons isn’t behind this?


35 posted on 12/17/2012 4:02:07 PM PST by FrdmLvr (culture, language, borders)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

The guard was on. Doesn’t do much good when the tool flies out of your control.


36 posted on 12/17/2012 4:03:36 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Typical_Whitey
Ungland...

Right!!! Well then... henceforth, all things sharp will be banned, and all things pointy shall also be banned, and anything that is sharp AND pointy is right out!!!

Also, things that are blunt are banned, and things that are heavy are banned, and things that are blunt AND heavy are RIGHT OUT AS WELL!!!

Well, lets see... that about cover it then???

37 posted on 12/17/2012 4:03:51 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: tumblindice

They didn’t consider the slashy part I think. They were more concerned about that stabby thing ...


38 posted on 12/17/2012 4:10:45 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: Typical_Whitey
Obama: ‘I Don’t Believe People Should Be Able To Own Guns’
39 posted on 12/17/2012 4:15:43 PM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Typical_Whitey

“They consulted 10 top chefs from around the UK, and found such knives have little practical value in the kitchen.”

They don’t need them in the OR in the UK either. Most surgery is too expensive for the NHS budget nowadays.


40 posted on 12/17/2012 4:21:06 PM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot)
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To: Typical_Whitey

I saw an article a few years back that said England engineers had perfected a round tipped knife to prevent stabbings.


41 posted on 12/17/2012 4:23:59 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Reopen the mental institutions! Damn the ACLU!)
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To: Norm Lenhart

I’ve caught myself running mine without the guard. I haven’t broken a wheel, but the thought of it made me change tactics.

Sometimes I run it with a sanding disc and no guard, but the naked whizz-wheel is a no no.

I see body guys running the open 3” ones on a die grinder all the time.


42 posted on 12/17/2012 4:25:37 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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To: Typical_Whitey

Don’t forget the chainsaw! The greatest close coontact weapon of all time!


43 posted on 12/17/2012 4:26:17 PM PST by cork (Remember Bengazi!)
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To: Typical_Whitey
The people in England who first assumed an English identity were the Saxons...and the word "Saxons" literally means "the people of the knife".

The Saxons and other Nordic peoples were characterized by a knife called the "seax" or "scramaseax", meaning "broken-backed blade". It was a utility blade with an inward curving tip...a basic blade for farm chores and any uses requiring a knife, but the unique tip functioned much like a reverse tanto...reinforced the tip for punching thru armor.

If you were a free man in Saxon England and other Nordic countries you were required to bear this knife, strapped across your waist, not only identifying you as a free man and a Saxon but showing you were in obedience to your king or your chief, being prepared to join him in defending the land at any time.

Isn't it ironic that a country whose forebears were called "the people of the knife", who were ordered by their rulers to wear the knife to show themselves as free English people, now cannot be trusted with a knife to cut their meat?

BTW the above knife is on my wish list...since our socialist civilization has labeled people with conservative values as backward and barbarian, I might just take it as my sign that I'm a free backward barbarian.

44 posted on 12/17/2012 4:26:44 PM PST by fattigermaster
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

I used to way back when. Another fragged wheel cured me. Nothing happened but the shrapnel of it flying around the room gave me religion.

When I cut myself, I was extremely lucky my hand took the hit as it would have made a nice cut in my abdomen. I already have enough Doctor caused scars there. Didn’t need another ;)

It’s incredible what 10,000 RPM is capable of when it’s not doing what it’s supposed to be doing.

I’ve had both the good Makita/DeWalt wheels come apart as well as the cheap Chinese ones. It’s not that I bound them up or bounced them either. But since my metalworking days are over, I am just glad to get done with all digits relatively intact.


45 posted on 12/17/2012 4:34:35 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Typical_Whitey

There will be a run on scissors. Which is very dangerous.


46 posted on 12/17/2012 4:34:54 PM PST by HomeAtLast ( If you care to reply, PM or risk non-detection amid ME ping list entries)
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To: grumpygresh

Maybe they have no kitchen value because brits can’t chew meat with those terrible teeth they have so most things are just mush.


47 posted on 12/17/2012 4:45:46 PM PST by Typical_Whitey (The political mirage of something for nothing; has ruined many a nation.)
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To: Typical_Whitey

“They argued many assaults are committed impulsively, prompted by alcohol and drugs, and a kitchen knife often makes an all too available weapon.”

Ok, let’s try a little logic here. You ban the steak knives, and what happens in the next “impulse” situation? Do they look for a weapon of opportunity, find no steak knife, and then decide they’d better settle their dispute without violence? Or is it more likely that they will just grab a cricket bat, a beer bottle, or a claw hammer that is laying around, instead of the steak knife which isn’t?

All you’ve got to do is watch a Jackie Chan movie to learn that nearly anything can be turned into a deadly weapon, if someone wants to use it as such. We can’t possibly ban the “all too available” weapons that surround us.


48 posted on 12/17/2012 4:47:47 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: fattigermaster

Great post.


49 posted on 12/17/2012 4:48:09 PM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: fattigermaster

I had one of the Cold Steel large Kukris and still have one of the smaller, much less expensive ones.

If I remember right the literature which came with it said that style of knife originated in Greece. When Alexander’s soldiers came to India, they liked the style and it became common in India (and Nepal).

I always wanted an authentic claymore. I think it predates it’s use by the Scots but am not certain. They sure liked it tho. I have seen a very large collection of Scottish armor and all the swords were claymores.


50 posted on 12/17/2012 4:51:25 PM PST by yarddog (One shot one miss.)
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