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Activision Blizzard Investors on Alert as Violent Video Games Being Partly Blamed for CT Shooting
The Street Insider ^ | Dec 17 2012 | The Street Insider

Posted on 12/17/2012 9:12:44 PM PST by WilliamIII

Shareholders of Call of Duty video game maker Activision Blizzard, Inc. (NASDAQ: ATVI) and other video game makers are nervous Monday related to fears about a potential backlash from Friday's horrible Sandy Hook school shootings, which left 26 dead, including 20 children.

There have been reports from the Hartford Courant that alleged gunman Adam Lanza played "violent video game in which life-like characters engage in graphic battle scenes."

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1 posted on 12/17/2012 9:12:52 PM PST by WilliamIII
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To: WilliamIII

I’m buying a couple versions of “Call of Duty” for myself and Halo IV for my nephew.


2 posted on 12/17/2012 9:17:49 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: WilliamIII

Oh boy! Maybe we will have another nationally broadcast Senate hearing with Tipper Gore!


3 posted on 12/17/2012 9:17:58 PM PST by Eagle of Liberty (Be the Enemy Within the Enemy Within...)
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To: WilliamIII
This is what happen when God is no longer in schools and is replaced with computers. Image and video hosting by TinyPic
4 posted on 12/17/2012 9:19:13 PM PST by MtnMan101
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To: WilliamIII

BFD. As I’ve stated previously, tens of millions of young men play these video games yet do not go out and murder people.

Really, we need to get our priorities straight, and worrying about video games is something that shouldn’t even register on our radar.

Americans, always looking for the simple answer and a quick fix.


5 posted on 12/17/2012 9:19:44 PM PST by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: WilliamIII

Blaming video games is as f’ing stupid as blaming guns.

Blame PEOPLE.


6 posted on 12/17/2012 9:22:35 PM PST by Darren McCarty (If most people were more than keyboard warriors, we might have won the election)
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To: WilliamIII

Well, the anger has to go somehwere.

Since the killer killed himself and the woman who bore him, might as well direct it at everyone who had nothing to do with it at all.

Good thing the media misreported that his father was killed too, otherwise he might have to answer why he didn’t raise, discipline and control his murderous son better than he did.

The stupidity of Americans has reached cosmic proportions now.


7 posted on 12/17/2012 9:22:58 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Pox

As I’ve stated previously, tens of millions of young men play these video games yet do not go out and murder people.

Tens of millions who aren’t psychotic. You can say these games, when consumed by kids with psychotic disorders, don’t have any influence. But you’d be arguing from a position of ideology, not common sense.


8 posted on 12/17/2012 9:26:17 PM PST by WilliamIII
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To: Pox

And why do growing throngs find playing such drek to be charming?


9 posted on 12/17/2012 9:28:35 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: WilliamIII
Wait until some Black dude shoots a roomful of white people like Jamie Foxx does in “Django Unchained.”

The news coverage will disappear in one day.

By Day Two, Hollywood stars will be shrieking for more gun control.

10 posted on 12/17/2012 9:29:49 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: Eagle of Liberty
"Oh boy! Maybe we will have another nationally broadcast Senate hearing with Tipper Gore!'

But this time there's no Frank Zappa to ask, "So who pluked the monkey?"

11 posted on 12/17/2012 9:31:04 PM PST by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: WilliamIII
So, do you advocate banning video games on the grounds that a few bad apples just might possibly be affected by them?

I surely wouldn’t and I don’t state my opinion from an ideological viewpoint.

Your “logic” would be no different than those who call for banning guns since a few demented individuals use them to commit atrocities regardless of the fact that tens of millions of gun owners are law abiding citizens who don’t run around murdering people.

12 posted on 12/17/2012 9:34:59 PM PST by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: Pox

So, do you advocate banning video games

No, but I’d favor a law establishing tort liability for their producers. The makers of other potentially dangerous products are subject to being sued for damages if their products result in harm. The rich conscience-free folks who produce these blood-spattered games shouldn’t be exempt from product liability litigation.


13 posted on 12/17/2012 9:38:07 PM PST by WilliamIII
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To: Pox

“BFD. As I’ve stated previously, tens of millions of young men play these video games yet do not go out and murder people.”

That’s correct. And tens of millions of Americans can drink alcohol and not become addicted. Your point is?


14 posted on 12/17/2012 9:39:09 PM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: WilliamIII

I’m just waiting for them to report on what movies and TV-shows he watched...

...Any minute now...


15 posted on 12/17/2012 9:39:16 PM PST by LastNorwegian
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To: Vendome

I’ve got every Call of Duty version. Gee, where’s my interview from the libtard media?


16 posted on 12/17/2012 9:40:44 PM PST by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Perhaps it's an enjoyable pastime?

You may not prefer to play such games, but I enjoy them immensely and I don't personally see any harm in them. I certainly don't get the urge to run around and murder people, nor do I feel that any of the games that are on the market have any useful value in either desensitizing a person to violence nor do I believe any of it would be a useful “training” tool for murdering psychopaths.

Really, it's a stupid belief, IMO, and we have got to get back to common sense. There are insane bad people in the world and from time to time they will commit outrageous acts of violence. In the end, it is the person that is the problem.

I'm much more concerned about brain dead leftist ideologues who have much more sinister intentions than the random psychotic who snaps and brings misery to our society.

17 posted on 12/17/2012 9:41:55 PM PST by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: WilliamIII
That is as absurd as blaming the manufacturers of firearms, IMO.

Just as absurd as holding car manufacturers liable for the results of drunk drivers.

Do you play any of these games? I’m asking because I do and I cannot make the connection that you do between these games and the actions of demented individuals who just so happen to play them and then go out and commit an atrocity. I see no cause and effect.

Following your line of reasoning, why not hold motion picture makers liable as well? In fact, I would emphasize that the fictional entertainment coming out of Hollywood is much more influential on the psyche of murderers than a video game.

18 posted on 12/17/2012 9:48:57 PM PST by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: babygene
My point is pretty simple and straightforward, and that is blaming video games as a root cause for the actions of individuals is an unrealistic exercise.
19 posted on 12/17/2012 9:50:49 PM PST by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: Pox

That is as absurd as blaming the manufacturers of firearms, IMO.
Just as absurd as holding car manufacturers liable for the results of drunk drivers.

On the contrary, neither the gun nor the car contributes to the mental derangement of the user. A video game pumping “kill kill kill” into a disturbed mind, is something else again.


20 posted on 12/17/2012 9:52:17 PM PST by WilliamIII
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To: WilliamIII

I have every Call Of Duty series and Halo 4..never wanted to kill anyone. Liberals just can’t help themselves..I haven’t heard ONE lib blame the KILLER..nah can’t blame him, have to blame video games, guns, anything else except the KILLER..the video game didn’t shoot anyone and the gun didn’t go off by itself


21 posted on 12/17/2012 9:52:44 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Sarah Barracuda

I have every Call Of Duty series and Halo 4..never wanted to kill anyone.

Right, because you’re not psychotic. But to say categorically that these games can’t trigger aggression in psychotics doesn’t jibe with common sense.


22 posted on 12/17/2012 9:57:21 PM PST by WilliamIII
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To: Pox

“My point is pretty simple and straightforward, and that is blaming video games as a root cause for the actions of individuals is an unrealistic exercise. “

I’m not suggesting they be banned. However an effort needs to be made to shield susceptible people from them.


23 posted on 12/17/2012 10:02:54 PM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: WilliamIII

Anything might trigger violence in psychotic people.

Blaming games is foolish.


24 posted on 12/17/2012 10:03:48 PM PST by LastNorwegian
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To: Vendome

I did the exact thing last night. ToysRUs had buy two 59.00 games, get 50.00 off. I got the new Black Ops game for 9.99 :)


25 posted on 12/17/2012 10:04:27 PM PST by StayoutdaBushesWay (Every man dies, but not every man really lives.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

You cannot blame video games entirely, but I can tell you, they do have a stimulating effect on those who have mental illnesses.

I for one, can attest to this. I have 2 adopted boys who came from a very bad background prior to adoption (abuse, neglect, violence) The birth family has a history of bi-polar, schizophrenia, etc. One of my sons has also been diagnosed with post traumatic stress from his abusive background and manic depression.schizophrenia.

30 days ago, he went crazy in the home and attacked the whole family. He currently is in a mental health hospital.

What drove him to go crazy in the house was that he was told he could not play video games. I took them away from him because I saw how aggressive he becomes after paying video games, even sports type games.

When you have a child on anti-depressant drugs, there is an effect with the additional stimuli of video games.


26 posted on 12/17/2012 10:05:28 PM PST by neverbluffer
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To: WilliamIII
My statement in that aspect revolves around the argument that video games can make a killer more efficient, which I find to be an absurd belief, so perhaps the context is irrelevant concerning the examples I provided. Fair enough.

Video games have been around a long time, and although the quality of the graphics has improved significantly over the years, we're still talking about "fake" reality that is easily understood by even children, and I don't buy any argument that a "disturbed mind" may simply be driven by said games into a murderous rage, or even become detached to the point that it makes such urges more likely. At this point in video game technology, the realism is still not there. That brings me back to my previous question:

Let's go back to my belief that Hollywood garbage is much more influential to a “disturbed mind”, as you put it. Why not start at that level? Movies are many more levels above video games as far as realism is concerned. That would be a logical place to start, wouldn't you think?

27 posted on 12/17/2012 10:05:28 PM PST by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: LastNorwegian

Blaming games is foolish.

Really? The latest news outlet to report that this mentally disturbed guy watched a LOT of violent video games, is the LA Times, tonight: http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-shooter-profile-20121218,0,7751800.story

Now, his killing spree at the elementary school was like a real-life violent video game. To rule out, categorically , any connection between the two — THAT’S foolish.


28 posted on 12/17/2012 10:07:58 PM PST by WilliamIII
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To: babygene

Efforts have been made to shield minors from violent video games, but with what criteria can you define a person as “susceptible”? Susceptible to what?

Again, I do not see a cause and effect connection between a person who snaps and video games.


29 posted on 12/17/2012 10:08:12 PM PST by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: WilliamIII

Watched video games, or played video games? Kind of a loose statement there.

Establishing a connection without providing a factual basis to back that connection is idle speculation with nothing to stand on.

Again, violent movies coming out of Hollywood are much more likely to influence such an individual, IMO, due to the realism factor. Why has that not been pointed at as a possible “connection”?


30 posted on 12/17/2012 10:13:42 PM PST by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: Pox

You probably do not live with someone who has a mental illness, someone who already has a skewed perception of reality.

Violent video games DO have an effect on these people. Of course, it is our parental responsibility to intercede in these instances.


31 posted on 12/17/2012 10:16:01 PM PST by neverbluffer
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To: Pox

my other son, when told he would be limited in his xbox play time, got very aggressive and took the xbox system and ran out of the house with it.

It becomes their comfortability factor and gives them a sense of false reality and almost an addiction.

They become conditioned to violence with some games..


32 posted on 12/17/2012 10:20:18 PM PST by neverbluffer
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To: neverbluffer
I'm afraid to inform you that I have much more intimate knowledge on that subject than you can possibly imagine, and video games did not have detrimental effects from my observations.

Given that, not all people are identical, of course, and neither do people all react the same way to the same stimuli.

Once again, the realistic depictions of violence in movies are much more of a likely culprit than video games, wouldn't you think?

33 posted on 12/17/2012 10:23:14 PM PST by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: Pox

Again, I do not see a cause and effect connection between a person who snaps and video games.

Let’s see, he spent his time watching video games in which he was shooting up masses of people with high-powered weaponry. Then he goes out and does the same thing in real life. I think it’s much more unrealistic to insist there’s no connection, than to suggest there might be one.


34 posted on 12/17/2012 10:24:40 PM PST by WilliamIII
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To: WilliamIII

And other killers (maybe him too?) no doubt watched a lot of movies, watched a lot of porn, watched a lot of sports, watched a lot of news/politics...

You can’t make a case for cause and effect based on that.

But really the point is that a nutcase can start killing because of song lyrics, books, his neighbour’s dog or any other insane reason. We can’t put the blame on whatever hobby/interests the killers have and start trying to adjust society to fit crazy people.

If you want to blame anything medication seems a more likely culprit. Asperger’s doesn’t need medicine.


35 posted on 12/17/2012 10:27:25 PM PST by LastNorwegian
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To: neverbluffer

Take away a toy of any type from most young people, mentally ill or not, and you will get a negative reaction.

Becoming conditioned to violence due to the content of the games I say is unrealistic as even my mentally ill brother could understand the difference between a video game and reality.

But, again, different people can react to stimuli in different ways. Allowing my brother to watch a movie like Natural Born Killers would be a very bad thing, and we knew better.


36 posted on 12/17/2012 10:27:35 PM PST by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: Pox

I think both have an affect. However, movies are not as much of an addiction for kids as video games.

I am not blaming video games, just like I dont blame guns. It is definitely “the person”

I am just telling you that I have one son who currently is facing “assault” charges and is at this time in a mental health hospital.

The trigger for him was getting upset after being told he could not play his video games which he was becoming addicted to. Didnt want to do anything else. I had 7 police cars, ambulance, etc. at the house for the incident.

The average person may not react this way, but my 2 adopted kids both have mental health issues and they are affected in a much different way to video stimulus.


37 posted on 12/17/2012 10:29:56 PM PST by neverbluffer
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To: WilliamIII

It feels like 1968 redux!

After the killing of Bobby Kennedy blame was placed on TV shows, comic books, pulp fiction, movies, toy guns.

Toy guns disappeared for a while.
Pulp fiction cleaned up their covers.
TV shows dumbed down their shows to kiddie shows.
Comic books got rid of their heavy dramas.

But Movies? They said they would police themselves with a rating system. G M R X!

Hot D*mn boys, the Hays Code is dead! Produce ‘em if you got ‘em! Mark them R and market them to preteens!

And the most vile sex and blood drenched films oozed out of Hollywood.


38 posted on 12/17/2012 10:30:06 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Reopen the mental institutions! Damn the ACLU!)
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To: Pox

I think both have an affect. However, movies are not as much of an addiction for kids as video games.

I am not blaming video games, just like I dont blame guns. It is definitely “the person”

I am just telling you that I have one son who currently is facing “assault” charges and is at this time in a mental health hospital.

The trigger for him was getting upset after being told he could not play his video games which he was becoming addicted to. Didnt want to do anything else. I had 7 police cars, ambulance, etc. at the house for the incident.

The average person may not react this way, but my 2 adopted kids both have mental health issues and they are affected in a much different way to video stimulus.


39 posted on 12/17/2012 10:31:03 PM PST by neverbluffer
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To: WilliamIII

And do you know what movies he watched? Violent TV shows? What other possible stimuli could have affected his perception of reality?

There are a lot of possible factors, yet to cherry pick video games as the “obvious” culprit is absurd, IMO.


40 posted on 12/17/2012 10:31:22 PM PST by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Because they beat the hell out of playing Pong?


41 posted on 12/17/2012 10:32:30 PM PST by conserv8 (It's not the end, it's the beginning.)
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To: LastNorwegian

We can’t put the blame on whatever hobby/interests the killers have and start trying to adjust society to fit crazy people.

We can allow tort liability, and let the facts of individual cases sort themselves out in court. If a product has a possibility of causing great harm, even in a small number of circumstances, the producers can be liable for the harm caused. That’s not the same thing as banning it.


42 posted on 12/17/2012 10:33:46 PM PST by WilliamIII
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To: neverbluffer
I understand video game addiction all too well from personal experiences, but I believe you’re comparing apples to oranges.

Obsessive and/or compulsive does not equal an altered perception of reality due to the content of such games, particularly considering the still unrealistic video quality presented in such games. That can certainly change as technology advances, so what I believe today I can possibly change my mind upon in the future.

That being said, I’m sorry to hear about your son. I lost my brother about 14 years ago due to a defective heart valve and not a day goes by that I don’t miss him or think about him.

43 posted on 12/17/2012 10:38:26 PM PST by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: WilliamIII

I don’t agree. By holding the producers of God knows what responsible for the abuses of the users/customers we are in effect banning it. And I certainly don’t see it as right to blame someone for something someone else does.

No matter if it’s gun manufacturer’s for murder, jerry can makers for people who stupidly burn themselves, authors for writing books where the hero throws himself off a bridge wearing a yellow raincoat only to have people reenact it in real life, soccer games for riots, caricatures for terrorism etc...

It’s all one giant slippery slope. As I see it people are responsible for their own actions and not what it ‘inspires’ others to do.


44 posted on 12/17/2012 10:41:34 PM PST by LastNorwegian
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To: Pox

I guess that is the beauty of this forum, we each get to express our own opinions.

I am convinced there is a direct corelation between anti-depressant meds and video game stimulation that the average person does not realize. I could be wrong.

All I can tell you is that I have a son who is not at home with his family and it all started over a video game.

Thanks for your comment about my son. I really appreciate it.


45 posted on 12/17/2012 10:46:15 PM PST by neverbluffer
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To: Darren McCarty

I’d like to know what level of involvement the so-called father had with his troubled son.


46 posted on 12/17/2012 10:47:22 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: Pox

I’ve been playing these sorts of games since the early 90’s beginning with Wolfenstein. I did not notice a desensitization effect in myself until the late 90’s. I don’t know if the earlier games were too cartoon-like to cause the change or if it was related to increases in the nature of the violence, or some combination of improved graphics and more extreme violence, but it has happened several times over the years. I’ll start a game and be uneasy about the violence involved(sometimes even disturbed about it) and by the end of the game I’m not bothered by the violence at all. And over the years there’s been a steady progression in the intensity of the violence that it takes to create that unease. I don’t know if that has any carryover to violence desensitization outside of games or not—I haven’t really thought about it enough to decide. I will say that even with the ingame desensitization, I am very confident that playing these types of games have not made me a more aggressive or hostile person. I’ll keep playing and enjoying the games, but my experience has made me wonder if they could cause catastrophic problems for someone with underlying mental illness.


47 posted on 12/17/2012 10:51:23 PM PST by FreedomForce (Living in the Age of American Soft Despotism)
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To: Gene Eric

Are you friggin kidding me?

Are you referring to me?


48 posted on 12/17/2012 10:55:34 PM PST by neverbluffer
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To: neverbluffer

I thought he was referring to the killer’s father.


49 posted on 12/17/2012 11:00:12 PM PST by ozaukeemom (USA-it was nice while it lasted)
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To: neverbluffer

Are you Adam’s father?


50 posted on 12/17/2012 11:00:12 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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