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Report: Fiscal cliff deal emerging — including one-year debt-ceiling increase; Update: ...
Hot Air ^ | 5:51 pm on December 17, 2012 | Allahpundit

Posted on 12/17/2012 10:07:19 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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1 posted on 12/17/2012 10:07:36 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Why have a debt ceiling if all we do is increase it? Do away with the debt ceiling all together ... nobody pays any attention to it anyhow.


2 posted on 12/17/2012 10:18:20 PM PST by doc1019
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I don’t agree with that at all.


3 posted on 12/17/2012 10:21:29 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The Fail is strong with these two. We are so Effed


4 posted on 12/17/2012 10:23:45 PM PST by Drill Thrawl (We have crossed the line from independence & liberty to dependency & servitude. We are doomed)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; All

I think I saw/heard something today about Obama going up to $400,000. Sounds like negotiating has begun.


5 posted on 12/17/2012 10:32:01 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Agreeing or disagreeing with me is no big thing ... giving a reason means much toward a civil discussion.


6 posted on 12/17/2012 10:33:14 PM PST by doc1019
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I think it is a tool that might possibility put a slight hurdle in the runaway spending.

It does get Headlines and the Media can't ignore it.

And they are a BIG player....unfortunately ,...as the 2012 election showed us.

7 posted on 12/17/2012 10:36:51 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

...............

Isn’t anyone interested in stopping these people?

no?

:(


8 posted on 12/17/2012 10:38:40 PM PST by Tzimisce (What do you do when every every branch of the government is corrupt and aligned against you?)
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Which people?

And how do you stop the spending....most of it is Medicare and such....

What will the headlines be....that is the problem....No One seems to have noticed the problems in Europe and especially in Greece.

9 posted on 12/17/2012 10:43:33 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Does the house get any say in this? or are they elected to just follow the whips...


10 posted on 12/17/2012 10:48:57 PM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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It’s pretty hard to grasp and embrace the concept of tipping point, especially for conservatives, but the story here is simply that there are some problems that cannot be solved.

We cannot cut taxes and cut the deficit. That raises the deficit — because we are past the tipping point. We can’t grow the economy anymore, regardless of tax rates. Taxes aren’t decisive anymore.

We cannot cut spending and cut the deficit for the extrapolated reason. Government spending is such a big part of GDP now that cutting spending would cut GDP and that would cut tax revenue and presto, bigger deficit.

This is what it means to be past the tipping point. There is no solution.

But a step past all that for a moment — these chained CPI adjustments to SS. Let’s make DAMN SURE it applies to ALL government retirement pensions, too, including Congress and Presidents and Judges and any other bureaucrat.


11 posted on 12/17/2012 10:54:51 PM PST by Owen
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Yes they will vote on it.

Won't be an easy vote either.

The media will be printing nasty headlines,....every chance they get.

12 posted on 12/17/2012 10:56:02 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Owen
Seems reasonable.

Signing off here.

13 posted on 12/17/2012 10:58:58 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

You’ll never stop any spending with these guys in charge.

Guys a majority of Americans (the “people” I referenced) voted for.

And Greece and the rest of Europe could fall into a crack in the Earth tomorrow from the weight of their debt and it still wouldn’t change what we’re doing over here.


14 posted on 12/17/2012 11:08:03 PM PST by Tzimisce (What do you do when every every branch of the government is corrupt and aligned against you?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
We are dealing with liars and crooks, masquerading as our Representatives. Spending our money like it grows on trees.

The only hope is to replace all 535 plus 2 plus 9.

15 posted on 12/18/2012 2:46:35 AM PST by DeaconRed (I still can't believe it.It is like a bad dream that won't end.4 more of the Moron Say it ain't SO.)
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To: DeaconRed

So the only hope is no hope?


16 posted on 12/18/2012 3:16:18 AM PST by Houghton M.
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

ALL debt ceiling atrocities are for ONE YEAR. These people think we are stupid because 53% of those of us that voted ARE THAT STUPID!

LLS


17 posted on 12/18/2012 4:33:05 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (A child is born in Bethlehem KING of KINGS)
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Not a single person in congress right now is demanding the elimination of even one department. It doesn’t even get discussed here much anymore because we all know it won’t happen. But I would think at least one tea party member would be jumping up and down, demanding the department of education be eliminated.


18 posted on 12/18/2012 4:34:49 AM PST by RadiationRomeo (Step into my mind and glimpse the madness that is me)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Anything bipartisan moves left. Shame on Boehner and anyone who votes for increasing taxes and spending in ANY way.


19 posted on 12/18/2012 4:48:03 AM PST by ThePatriotsFlag (...and to the Republic for which it STOOD...)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The “deal” is that Obama will get the praise for raising taxes on the rich, while Republicans get the blame for “cutting” Social Security.


20 posted on 12/18/2012 5:07:26 AM PST by GreenHornet
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