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White House Rejects Boehner's Backup Plan
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Posted on 12/18/2012 9:34:32 AM PST by Perdogg

The White House rejected a House GOP proposal Tuesday to extend the Bush tax cuts for those making up to $1 million, saying it doesn't go far enough and wouldn't pass the Senate anyway.

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1 posted on 12/18/2012 9:34:36 AM PST by Perdogg
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To: Perdogg

Time to go over the “cliff”. The democrats will not approve anything unless it’s even worse that the mandated cuts. We should take what we can get and walk away from the table.


2 posted on 12/18/2012 9:40:00 AM PST by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Perdogg

Is anyone surprised? Bueller?


3 posted on 12/18/2012 9:40:23 AM PST by sarasota
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To: Perdogg

Big surprise.


4 posted on 12/18/2012 9:40:31 AM PST by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever.)
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To: Perdogg

Boehner the fool is trying to show how stubborn Obama is being with his multiple offers.

He should just do his job take care of his own house. He is not responsible for what others do but he thinks he is.

Again, the fool.


5 posted on 12/18/2012 9:41:27 AM PST by cotton1706
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To: Perdogg

Even when Boehner surrenders and waives the white flag, Obama does not accept. What does Obama want? Boehner to genuflect, kiss the ring, and prostate himself? This whole exercise is so degrading.


6 posted on 12/18/2012 9:42:25 AM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Perdogg

It’s either the arrogant pos occpant’s of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave way, or the highway. He will push the tax increases down our throat, just like he did the health care bill


7 posted on 12/18/2012 9:42:37 AM PST by Kaslin ( One Big Ass Mistake America (Make that Two))
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To: Pollster1

Once again Boner is negotiating with himself and coming up with a tax increase. Just pass a bill that cuts spending and recess for the holidays. Let the Senate and Obama deal with the aftermath.


8 posted on 12/18/2012 9:42:41 AM PST by double_down
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To: double_down

boner is a fool. If he’d only stop whining & crying long enough to realize that he should resign immediately...or switch parties.


9 posted on 12/18/2012 9:45:07 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Perdogg

This isn’t about the fiscal cliff, it is about ending the GOP.

The media will blame the GOP, and Bush, for anything going forward. Obambi knows this, and WANTS to move to the next step.

He is playing the long game, and Boehner is being played.


10 posted on 12/18/2012 9:47:36 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

“What does Obama want?”

No cuts and lots of tax hikes, to spend more next year. Gotta keep that base fed.

Debt? What debt? We’ll pay it back with more taxes.


11 posted on 12/18/2012 9:48:23 AM PST by Rennes Templar (Be positive: America is greater than Obama.)
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To: Pollster1

Good.


12 posted on 12/18/2012 9:57:43 AM PST by guido911 (Islamic terrorists are members http://www.freerepublic.com/foof the "ROP", the "religion of pu*&ies")
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To: redgolum

The GOP is already dead.


13 posted on 12/18/2012 9:59:16 AM PST by conservativebabe
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To: Perdogg

Guess what. It doesn’t matter if the White House rejects Boehner’s back up plan. If the House passes, the Senate will come under pressure to act on it absent any agreement between the House and the President.

If the Senate fails to act, the Democrats are to blame. If the Senate approves Plan B and the President vetoeso it, the President sends the economy over the fiscal cliff.

This is a negotiating tactic. We’ll see how well it works.


14 posted on 12/18/2012 10:02:39 AM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: cotton1706

I am no fan of Boehner but I like this. Keep making “reasonable” offers and show what a liar the kenyan is.

Barry WANTS to go over the cliff. Why give him what he wants???

So Boehner continues the offers including the Pelosi plan and the White Hut rejects them out of hand. Now hammer the dims with this stuff. They will look terrible.


15 posted on 12/18/2012 10:03:41 AM PST by lodi90
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To: conservativebabe

Not quite.

But they will be soon.


16 posted on 12/18/2012 10:04:29 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Perdogg
Boehner should hand a box of



to Obama and tell him to have fun trying to play grownup, then recess the House.
17 posted on 12/18/2012 10:08:28 AM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: lodi90

They will look terrible to who?


18 posted on 12/18/2012 10:09:55 AM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: Perdogg; All

Boehner just got had by Obama. GOP needs to dump Bner now


19 posted on 12/18/2012 10:13:10 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (Seems that the ones who understand little about the economy are economists)
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To: WashingtonSource

If the Senate fails to act, the Democrats are to blame. If the Senate approves Plan B and the President vetoeso it, the President sends the economy over the fiscal cliff.


I think the marxists want the hundreds of billions in defense cuts above all else. There is no way they can get them through Congress so they need to take us over the cliff and let sequestration kick in.

So I like the idea of the House passing a deal that includes some tax increases on “millionaires”. That sends the bill on to the dims in the Senate. See how they like that hot potato.


20 posted on 12/18/2012 10:14:57 AM PST by lodi90
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To: rollo tomasi

They will look terrible to who?


To anyone that isn’t all about the free stuff.


21 posted on 12/18/2012 10:16:52 AM PST by lodi90
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To: Perdogg

The Republicans need to go onto as many as the cable news networks, Sunday talks shows, nightly news programs, etc., and saturate the airwaves with the following message: “We made proposal “A” to Obama and he rejected it.” “We made proposal “B” to Obama, and he rejected it.” We made proposal “C”, etc. etc. “It’s clear that it is Barack Obama who has no intention of finding a solution to this problem, and WANTS the country to go over the Fiscal Cliff.” They need to get this message out to as many Americans as they can, as often as they can.


22 posted on 12/18/2012 10:20:01 AM PST by GreenHornet
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To: Perdogg

Boehner & the Republicans should come back with a specific Department to cut - like Education. There is no doubt that it has been an abject failure to improve anything, anywhere in the country. Stand up & say, “We will accept higher taxes only when there are dramatic & specific cuts in spending - starting HERE!”


23 posted on 12/18/2012 10:21:01 AM PST by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: lodi90
Reid will table the bill if he does not like it, thus the Senate is not exposed.

A bunch of those " isn’t all about the free stuff" still blame the Repubs/Bush for the economy, thus anything Boehner does will not change squat. Its high time for the regular Joe and others to start feeling the effects of the perpetual Statist (Democrat and Republican) regimes. The road needs to end and the can stopped. Everyone, not just the millionaires need to start paying for the crap they continue to vote for.
24 posted on 12/18/2012 10:22:16 AM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: Perdogg

Boehner could give obama EVERYTHING he wanted, no strings attached, and obama would reject it. Why? Because obama WANTS TO GO OVER THE CLIFF. He knows Pravda USA would still blame the GOP for it.


25 posted on 12/18/2012 10:25:05 AM PST by chessplayer
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To: Perdogg

It looks to me like it is time for the House GOP to stop negotiating against itself.

IMHO, the GOP could win this PR battle if it:

(1) Passed a bill that reduces our fiscal deficit by:

(a) Taxing “carried-interest” gains of hedge-funders at ordinary income rates.
(b) Making interest over $50,000 on tax-exempt bonds taxable at ordinary income rates.
(c) Capping total itemized deductions from personal taxable income at, say, $50,000.
(d) Putting a “too-big-to-fail” tax on the dozen or so banks and investment banks that are STILL too big.
(e) Treating “state tax credits” for producing movies as current period taxable income.
(f) Radically reducing tax subsidies to all entertainment businesses.
(g) Placing a hiring freeze on the Federal Government — which includes all its sub-units except Defense.
(h) Treating inheritances as ordinary taxable income to the heirs.
(i) Permitting gifts to charities to be deductible for tax purposes ONLY if contributed as cash. Non-cash gifts like “art”, junk autos, and valuable “personal papers” would be non-tax-deductible, regardless of their so-called “appraised” values.
(h) ETC.

(2) Sent that bill to the Senate.

(3) Sent every Representative home until the Senate passes the same bill — or passes a modified bill with differences to be be worked out in a conference, i.e.: the “normal way”.

IMHO, the “Chicago Way” — where the House of Representatives is left to beg for a serious response from Harry Reed and the White House — is a fool’s game.

IMHO, it’s time to stop playing that game.


26 posted on 12/18/2012 10:31:34 AM PST by pfony1
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To: Perdogg

Give it up Boehner!! Stand UP like A MAN. If the few remaining REAL Conservative House Members don’t vote to take the gavel out of Boehner’s weaping hands then the GOP is dead to me.


27 posted on 12/18/2012 10:53:20 AM PST by jakerobins
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To: Perdogg; TheOldLady

I’ve already budgeted the 800 or so a month I will lose by going over the cliff. I guarentee you it will happen. Obama WANTS it to happen. He will not agree to anything except something that damages America more than the cliff.


28 posted on 12/18/2012 10:57:23 AM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: Perdogg

The greatest mistake was to enter into negotiations with Obama....should have just passed the Ryan plan again in the House and send it over to the Senate.


29 posted on 12/18/2012 10:59:35 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: WashingtonSource
If the Senate fails to act, the Democrats are to blame. If the Senate approves Plan B and the President vetoeso it, the President sends the economy over the fiscal cliff.

Altered for the Pravda Press media treatment:

If the Senate fails to act, the Republicans are to blame. If the Senate approves Plan B and the President vetoes it, the President sends the economy over the fiscal cliff and the Republicans are to blame.

30 posted on 12/18/2012 11:01:04 AM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: Perdogg

It does not matter what Boner proposes, it will be rejected out of hand. Obozo wants to blame Repubbies for all the fiscal cliff problems that arise. He wants a scapegoat, and will blame them for being partisan. He will not accept anything from the other side. He will accuse them of not being serious and the MSM will back him up. Notice that he has proposed nothing.......


31 posted on 12/18/2012 11:01:56 AM PST by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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To: rollo tomasi

Its high time for the regular Joe and others to start feeling the effects of the perpetual Statist (Democrat and Republican) regimes. The road needs to end and the can stopped. Everyone, not just the millionaires need to start paying for the crap they continue to vote for.


Defense cuts + tax increases will bring down the deficit to in the short term. Barry will demand new “Obama tax cuts” in January and the GOP will go along. No regular joes in the middle class will feel anything additional in the short term by going over the cliff and the dims will have their permanent defense cuts.

Barry would love nothing better than to push us over the cliff with the GOP clinging to their no taxes pledge. Why do you want to give that to him? Far better for the House to just pass some “Obama Plan” tax increases and let the dims be proven frauds.

Either way I think we are headed over the cliff. This really this is just about posturing and framing the debate for the future.


32 posted on 12/18/2012 11:21:47 AM PST by lodi90
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To: Perdogg

Did he cry when he heard the news?

What a loooooser.


33 posted on 12/18/2012 11:23:38 AM PST by McGruff (No New RINOs!)
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To: Perdogg
...saying it doesn't go far enough and wouldn't pass the Senate anyway.

Shouldn't Boehner let Reid be the judge of these things? How can McConnell get the chance to surrender too, if Boehner doesn't let the Senate play its role in the process?

Stop letting Obama speak for the Senate.

-PJ

34 posted on 12/18/2012 11:40:41 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: lodi90

But then all the Republicans need to do is say “let’s pay for these tax cuts” with real cuts.


35 posted on 12/18/2012 11:43:22 AM PST by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: Perdogg
Remember when Pelosi shut down the House to avoid a vote? She even turned the lights off in the chamber.

Why doesn't Boner adjourn for the year?

36 posted on 12/18/2012 11:49:58 AM PST by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: Pollster1

Boner doesn’t understand rule number 1 of negotiation: don’t bid against yourself. If your opponent rejects your offer, you don’t keep increasing your offer until he accepts it; you are bidding against your own number without getting any movement from the other side. At this rate, Obama could keep saying no until Boner goes further than Obama wanted. Politics at that level is blood sport. There’s no brownie points for “negotiating in good faith”, no merit badge for good effort. Play to win or go home.


37 posted on 12/18/2012 11:53:50 AM PST by JewishRighter
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

The word you were looking for, I imagine, is “prostrate”.

Prostrate is to lay flat face down in a ritual of submission.

Prostate is a male reproductive gland below the bladder that produces the non sperm component of semen.

But what you said IS funny.


38 posted on 12/18/2012 11:55:24 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: allmendream

Thanks for correcting me. Those two words, very similar in spelling, but very different meanings.


39 posted on 12/18/2012 11:57:40 AM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Perdogg

Hah! You humiliated your self for *nothin’* Bonehead!


40 posted on 12/18/2012 12:04:00 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

Well I think a lot of people here would be glad if House Republicans would “prostate themselves” (i.e. discover some testicular fortitude) rather than “prostrate themselves”.


41 posted on 12/18/2012 12:07:42 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: allmendream

Agreed....Boehner could use a pair.


42 posted on 12/18/2012 12:13:17 PM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
A Boehner without balls is worthless! ;)
43 posted on 12/18/2012 12:17:58 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: Cyber Liberty

He called Obama’s bluff.


44 posted on 12/18/2012 12:18:19 PM PST by Perdogg (Rep. Tom McClintock (R-CA4) for President 2016)
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To: allmendream

And physically impossible too, I would imagine.


45 posted on 12/18/2012 12:21:25 PM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Kaslin
Of course, if you've lost your income, as I have, you cannot any longer play the game.

Bill collectors will come, but you have nothing to give.

Revenuers will come, but you have nothing to pay.

They can put you in jail. Then you will have no capacity to earn and they will get nothing.

Multiply by a million people and you can foresee the end result...

46 posted on 12/18/2012 12:24:34 PM PST by Lexinom
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

Actually not physically impossible, but rare and pretty much not good for anything.


47 posted on 12/18/2012 12:24:44 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: Perdogg

I there is some of that. Let’s see what happens.


48 posted on 12/18/2012 12:52:07 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Perdogg

“He called obama’s bluff” I agree with you there. I am not a Boo Hoo fan but trying to be fair,I think this is a wicked move. The bill will pass the house. Is’nt that what obummer wanted —”A tax on millionaires”
Anyway, it goes to the Senate. Hilarious. Now they have to amend!! and send back. Amend with what? They might try the 250 k tax and that will be filibustered real bad !! Now it’s stuck and we go over the cliff. Then we get to tax all of obama folks too !! And we get to cut spending. Look out below!! We are jumping in 13 days!!!


49 posted on 12/18/2012 12:57:54 PM PST by willowdean
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To: allmendream
A boner without balls...


50 posted on 12/18/2012 1:02:14 PM PST by Lexinom
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