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1 posted on 12/18/2012 9:34:36 AM PST by Perdogg
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Time to go over the “cliff”. The democrats will not approve anything unless it’s even worse that the mandated cuts. We should take what we can get and walk away from the table.


2 posted on 12/18/2012 9:40:00 AM PST by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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Is anyone surprised? Bueller?


3 posted on 12/18/2012 9:40:23 AM PST by sarasota
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Big surprise.


4 posted on 12/18/2012 9:40:31 AM PST by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever.)
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Boehner the fool is trying to show how stubborn Obama is being with his multiple offers.

He should just do his job take care of his own house. He is not responsible for what others do but he thinks he is.

Again, the fool.


5 posted on 12/18/2012 9:41:27 AM PST by cotton1706
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Even when Boehner surrenders and waives the white flag, Obama does not accept. What does Obama want? Boehner to genuflect, kiss the ring, and prostate himself? This whole exercise is so degrading.


6 posted on 12/18/2012 9:42:25 AM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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It’s either the arrogant pos occpant’s of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave way, or the highway. He will push the tax increases down our throat, just like he did the health care bill


7 posted on 12/18/2012 9:42:37 AM PST by Kaslin ( One Big Ass Mistake America (Make that Two))
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This isn’t about the fiscal cliff, it is about ending the GOP.

The media will blame the GOP, and Bush, for anything going forward. Obambi knows this, and WANTS to move to the next step.

He is playing the long game, and Boehner is being played.


10 posted on 12/18/2012 9:47:36 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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Guess what. It doesn’t matter if the White House rejects Boehner’s back up plan. If the House passes, the Senate will come under pressure to act on it absent any agreement between the House and the President.

If the Senate fails to act, the Democrats are to blame. If the Senate approves Plan B and the President vetoeso it, the President sends the economy over the fiscal cliff.

This is a negotiating tactic. We’ll see how well it works.


14 posted on 12/18/2012 10:02:39 AM PST by WashingtonSource
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Boehner should hand a box of



to Obama and tell him to have fun trying to play grownup, then recess the House.
17 posted on 12/18/2012 10:08:28 AM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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Boehner just got had by Obama. GOP needs to dump Bner now


19 posted on 12/18/2012 10:13:10 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (Seems that the ones who understand little about the economy are economists)
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The Republicans need to go onto as many as the cable news networks, Sunday talks shows, nightly news programs, etc., and saturate the airwaves with the following message: “We made proposal “A” to Obama and he rejected it.” “We made proposal “B” to Obama, and he rejected it.” We made proposal “C”, etc. etc. “It’s clear that it is Barack Obama who has no intention of finding a solution to this problem, and WANTS the country to go over the Fiscal Cliff.” They need to get this message out to as many Americans as they can, as often as they can.


22 posted on 12/18/2012 10:20:01 AM PST by GreenHornet
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Boehner & the Republicans should come back with a specific Department to cut - like Education. There is no doubt that it has been an abject failure to improve anything, anywhere in the country. Stand up & say, “We will accept higher taxes only when there are dramatic & specific cuts in spending - starting HERE!”


23 posted on 12/18/2012 10:21:01 AM PST by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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Boehner could give obama EVERYTHING he wanted, no strings attached, and obama would reject it. Why? Because obama WANTS TO GO OVER THE CLIFF. He knows Pravda USA would still blame the GOP for it.


25 posted on 12/18/2012 10:25:05 AM PST by chessplayer
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It looks to me like it is time for the House GOP to stop negotiating against itself.

IMHO, the GOP could win this PR battle if it:

(1) Passed a bill that reduces our fiscal deficit by:

(a) Taxing “carried-interest” gains of hedge-funders at ordinary income rates.
(b) Making interest over $50,000 on tax-exempt bonds taxable at ordinary income rates.
(c) Capping total itemized deductions from personal taxable income at, say, $50,000.
(d) Putting a “too-big-to-fail” tax on the dozen or so banks and investment banks that are STILL too big.
(e) Treating “state tax credits” for producing movies as current period taxable income.
(f) Radically reducing tax subsidies to all entertainment businesses.
(g) Placing a hiring freeze on the Federal Government — which includes all its sub-units except Defense.
(h) Treating inheritances as ordinary taxable income to the heirs.
(i) Permitting gifts to charities to be deductible for tax purposes ONLY if contributed as cash. Non-cash gifts like “art”, junk autos, and valuable “personal papers” would be non-tax-deductible, regardless of their so-called “appraised” values.
(h) ETC.

(2) Sent that bill to the Senate.

(3) Sent every Representative home until the Senate passes the same bill — or passes a modified bill with differences to be be worked out in a conference, i.e.: the “normal way”.

IMHO, the “Chicago Way” — where the House of Representatives is left to beg for a serious response from Harry Reed and the White House — is a fool’s game.

IMHO, it’s time to stop playing that game.


26 posted on 12/18/2012 10:31:34 AM PST by pfony1
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Give it up Boehner!! Stand UP like A MAN. If the few remaining REAL Conservative House Members don’t vote to take the gavel out of Boehner’s weaping hands then the GOP is dead to me.


27 posted on 12/18/2012 10:53:20 AM PST by jakerobins
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I’ve already budgeted the 800 or so a month I will lose by going over the cliff. I guarentee you it will happen. Obama WANTS it to happen. He will not agree to anything except something that damages America more than the cliff.


28 posted on 12/18/2012 10:57:23 AM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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The greatest mistake was to enter into negotiations with Obama....should have just passed the Ryan plan again in the House and send it over to the Senate.


29 posted on 12/18/2012 10:59:35 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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It does not matter what Boner proposes, it will be rejected out of hand. Obozo wants to blame Repubbies for all the fiscal cliff problems that arise. He wants a scapegoat, and will blame them for being partisan. He will not accept anything from the other side. He will accuse them of not being serious and the MSM will back him up. Notice that he has proposed nothing.......


31 posted on 12/18/2012 11:01:56 AM PST by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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Did he cry when he heard the news?

What a loooooser.


33 posted on 12/18/2012 11:23:38 AM PST by McGruff (No New RINOs!)
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...saying it doesn't go far enough and wouldn't pass the Senate anyway.

Shouldn't Boehner let Reid be the judge of these things? How can McConnell get the chance to surrender too, if Boehner doesn't let the Senate play its role in the process?

Stop letting Obama speak for the Senate.

-PJ

34 posted on 12/18/2012 11:40:41 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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