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Sandy Hook shooting: What happened?
CNN ^ | 17 December, 2012 | NA

Posted on 12/18/2012 10:46:51 AM PST by marktwain

At the police station, dispatchers began to take calls from inside the school. Authorities say the first emergency call about the shooting came in at "approximately" 9:30 a.m.

"Sandy Hook school. Caller is indicating she thinks someone is shooting in the building," a dispatcher told fire and medical personnel, according to 911 tapes.

Police and other first responders arrived on scene about 20 minutes after the first calls.

Police report that no law enforcement officers discharged their weapons at any point.

The gunman took his own life, police said. He took out a handgun and shot himself in a classroom as law enforcement officers approached, officials said.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; massshooting; newtown; sandyhook; sandyhookaccount; sandyhookpolice; sandyhookshooting; secondamendment; timeline
20 minutes response time, in an active shooter situation. When seconds count...
1 posted on 12/18/2012 10:47:03 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Exactly, when seconds count the police are only 20 minutes away.

20 minutes is an eternity when gunmen are preying on unarmed children and adults.


2 posted on 12/18/2012 10:51:40 AM PST by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts so good.)
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To: marktwain

The whole thing just boggles the mind.

As does the fact that other than there being a shooting at the school, EVERYTHING the news media reported was wrong.


3 posted on 12/18/2012 10:52:59 AM PST by bigbob
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To: Truth is a Weapon

I think there is something wrong with the time line. This was a small town; it should not have (and I doubt) took 20 minutes. If it took 20 minutes, he would have gotten way more than the 26 children and teachers who did die.


4 posted on 12/18/2012 10:54:01 AM PST by merry10
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To: marktwain

20 minutes? Why? What took them so long? Unacceptable. In such a situation, 20 minutes is an eternity. All the more reason to allow teachers to conceal and carry in the schools! In fact, the training should be required.


5 posted on 12/18/2012 10:55:36 AM PST by KansasGirl ("If you have a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."--B. Hussein Obama)
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To: marktwain

20 minutes? Why? What took them so long? Unacceptable. In such a situation, 20 minutes is an eternity. All the more reason to allow teachers to conceal and carry in the schools! In fact, the training should be required.


6 posted on 12/18/2012 10:55:41 AM PST by KansasGirl ("If you have a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."--B. Hussein Obama)
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To: marktwain

If the state creates gun free zones then it has an obligation to provide armed guards. We do this in courts, airports and legislative buildings and other gun free zones but we don’t do it for our children.


7 posted on 12/18/2012 10:58:31 AM PST by Raycpa
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To: KansasGirl
If you are ever in a situation where your life depends on it and you have to make that call, say this "Officer down!" They'll be there in a hurry.
8 posted on 12/18/2012 10:59:29 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Raycpa

Indeed. The state should be liable. If a company bans them on premises it should be liable for shootings as well. They’re demanding everyone go into a place that is a target. Well...


9 posted on 12/18/2012 11:01:00 AM PST by Monty22002
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To: marktwain
"20 minutes after the first calls"

Damn slow.

10 posted on 12/18/2012 11:04:53 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: marktwain
Hochsprung heard loud pops. She, school psychologist Mary Sherlach and vice principal Natalie Hammond went out to investigate. Only Hammond returned from the hallway alive. She was wounded.

Rest in peace, but you simply don't investigate gunfire without a gun. These 'liberal' rules didn't even let them take a knife to a gunfight.

Idiots. One armed and motivated teacher, or guard at the door could have prevented this.

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11 posted on 12/18/2012 11:05:22 AM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: Gaffer

“If you are ever in a situation where your life depends on it and you have to make that call, say this “Officer down!” They’ll be there in a hurry.”


This is true to the power of 100.

It’s truthiness is unchallengable and should be considered scientific law.


12 posted on 12/18/2012 11:08:57 AM PST by Noamie
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To: Noamie
How far is it from school to police station?

To firehouse?

And why would first responders even GO if they're just going to stand around?

Just a couple of questions I have

13 posted on 12/18/2012 11:11:00 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: marktwain

And I am pretty sure that nothing else that urgent was going on at the time. Who was behind the slow response time.....Slowpoke Rodriguez?


14 posted on 12/18/2012 11:11:47 AM PST by Merta (Like Joe Jones, but in reverse, I talk too much.)
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To: knarf

The kids were told to run to the firehouse. I doubt it was that far away.


15 posted on 12/18/2012 11:12:25 AM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline, (it's back). 2008, the Decline of America)
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To: marktwain
So, what about the second man dressed in black who was arrested in the woods behind the school according to the early stories? The same one who multiple sources quoted as saying "I didn't do it." How does he fit in? Or did he in fact not exist?

It is hard to know for sure.

16 posted on 12/18/2012 11:15:36 AM PST by jboot (This isn't your father's America. Stay safe and keep your powder dry.)
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To: marktwain
Here is a transcript of the 911 calls of the Connecticut shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary school.

17 posted on 12/18/2012 11:16:24 AM PST by Theoria (Romney is a Pyrrhic victory.)
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To: merry10
According to MapQuest the Newtown Police Station (3 Main St, Newtown, CT 06470) is 5 mins / 2.15 miles from the school (Sandy Hook School, 12 Dickenson Dr, Sandy Hook, CT 06482).
18 posted on 12/18/2012 11:17:56 AM PST by LibFreeUSA
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To: machogirl
The kids were told to run to the firehouse. I doubt it was that far away.

Supposedly it was right across the street.
Wonder if it was a volunteer type fire department with nobody on duty?
If it was actually a 20 minute response time, that's way too long for the cops in a small town to get there.

19 posted on 12/18/2012 11:20:10 AM PST by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: marktwain
"Police and other first responders arrived on scene about 20 minutes after the first calls."

Nice.

Good thing the school was a Gun Free Zone. That way, these poor people had no chance of protecting themselves from a gunman.

20 posted on 12/18/2012 11:26:00 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Just 16 percent of Americansbelieve a better economic future awaits their children when they grow up)
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To: marktwain

20 minutes? Not bad for a town about 1 square mile.


21 posted on 12/18/2012 11:27:50 AM PST by ILS21R (Everything is a conspiracy. No? You're living in one.)
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To: Theoria

7 to 8 minutes... makes more sense.


22 posted on 12/18/2012 11:29:22 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: Theoria

Obviously not a 20 minute response time, just an inaccurate news story.


23 posted on 12/18/2012 11:29:52 AM PST by mcjordansc
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To: Theoria

CNN can’t get their facts straight even now.


24 posted on 12/18/2012 11:30:19 AM PST by fudimo
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To: Theoria

Obviously not a 20 minute response time, just an inaccurate news story.


25 posted on 12/18/2012 11:30:26 AM PST by mcjordansc
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To: marktwain

This just in?


26 posted on 12/18/2012 11:31:00 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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Well I looked up the town and they have a police dept. I live ina town that size there is NO reason that the police should have taken more than 5 min to respond, of course calls should have been made to 911 when the door was being shot out.


27 posted on 12/18/2012 11:33:31 AM PST by Leto
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To: Paladin2
I have listened to some released 911 audio. I dunno if it has been sped up, but the audio[911 response, coordination] is very organized and prepared.
28 posted on 12/18/2012 11:35:21 AM PST by Theoria (Romney is a Pyrrhic victory.)
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To: marktwain

I live in a small town in Wisconsin and I once called the county sheriff’s office (NOT 911) about minor vandalism that had occurred the night before. Two officers arrived in less than 20 minutes for my non-emergency call!


29 posted on 12/18/2012 11:41:34 AM PST by Jean S
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To: The Cajun

I agree. 20 minutes is obscene. (assuming that is correctly reported by CNN)


30 posted on 12/18/2012 11:50:18 AM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline, (it's back). 2008, the Decline of America)
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To: marktwain
10 Connections Between Mass Shooters
http://www.facebook.com/notes/kazi-kearse/10-connections-between-mass-shooters/525707100781325

Two Movies, Two Mass Murderers
http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2012/12/17/two-movies-two-mass-murders/




31 posted on 12/18/2012 11:58:30 AM PST by preacher (Communism has only killed 100 million people: Let's give it another chance!)
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To: machogirl
Some time ago I caught a guy digging around my tractor barn, I held him there and the sheriff's department had him cuffed in less than 5 minutes.
The deputies are always on patrol and response time is very quick, even out in the sticks.
32 posted on 12/18/2012 12:04:36 PM PST by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: marktwain

Yesterday, 300,000,000 Americans didn’t go into a school and shoot children. To understand why something happens, it is sometimes useful to look at why it doesn’t happen all the time.


33 posted on 12/18/2012 12:21:19 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: The Cajun

Good for you Cajun!


34 posted on 12/18/2012 12:23:58 PM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline, (it's back). 2008, the Decline of America)
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To: marktwain

damn.. just damn...

that is an epic failure on the part of the police.

I had a rather harsh back and forth with our school district on how they where going to prevent this from happening at my kids school.

It basically ended with “for what I pay for the school I expect more than a sign to stop killers from killing my kids”


35 posted on 12/18/2012 12:30:17 PM PST by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: cableguymn

The are to busy teaching your kids to get along and respect other cultures so if they have to re-allocate funds they will first gut more academic budgets before the PC brainwashing ones.


36 posted on 12/18/2012 12:34:32 PM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: marktwain

TWENTY MINUTES???????AFTER THE FIRST CALL. That is a terrible response time. Let’s hope the investigators find out what took so long. Were first responders hesitant to enter the building because shots were being fired? Were they waiting for a swat team to arrive?


37 posted on 12/18/2012 12:35:24 PM PST by kenmcg (scapegoat)
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To: marktwain

The last resource I am going to trust to tell me what happened on that day is CNN.


38 posted on 12/18/2012 12:36:31 PM PST by austinaero
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To: Gaffer

Don’t say officer down. Say “I think they shot an officer”

If you flat out say they shot one they have you on lying to the police.

But hey, I’d take that charge if it got um there quicker.


39 posted on 12/18/2012 12:36:55 PM PST by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: Raycpa

Very Good Point!


40 posted on 12/18/2012 12:38:51 PM PST by austinaero
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To: Raycpa

Very Good Point!


41 posted on 12/18/2012 12:39:03 PM PST by austinaero
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To: LibFreeUSA

at that is you or me driving obeying traffic signs and speed limits.


42 posted on 12/18/2012 12:40:03 PM PST by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: marktwain
Police and other first responders arrived on scene about 20 minutes after the first calls.

According to reports I read the police were there in 3 to 5 minutes. The shooting started and 9:32 and was over at 9:35. 26 dead in 3 minutes.

43 posted on 12/18/2012 12:44:00 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Raycpa
If the state creates gun free zones then it has an obligation to provide armed guards.

The state will be glad to oblige. Providing armed guards will grow the state bureaucracy and public employee rolls precipitously.

44 posted on 12/18/2012 12:48:52 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: machogirl

The CNN producers are so out of touch they think “reporting” a 20 min response time sounds reasonable. It doesn’t matter to them if it’s true or not.


45 posted on 12/18/2012 12:54:46 PM PST by austinaero
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To: Theoria; All

Thank you very much!

Seven to eight minutes... CNN cannot get anything right.

The new media does it so much better and more accurately than the MSM.


46 posted on 12/18/2012 2:02:31 PM PST by marktwain
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To: Jean S

***and I once called the county sheriff’s office.***

I did the same several years back on a weekend of a holiday. I called in a trespass report at 9:30AM and the sheriff deputy showed up at 2:30 PM. Only ONE deputy was on duty and he was clear across the county.


47 posted on 12/18/2012 2:19:39 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Reopen the mental institutions! Damn the ACLU!)
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To: KansasGirl
20 minutes? Why?

Because bullies are cowards at heart. I suspect "officer safety" union rules that require waiting for backup "when there is a possibility of multiple assailants."

The police in this country have become as much of a threat as they are an asset, particularly when it comes to funding their outrageous pensions.

48 posted on 12/18/2012 4:33:25 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party: advancing indenture since 1787.)
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To: knarf

try mapquest or google map to see the answer - but in a small town, 5 minutes is a long way.


49 posted on 12/18/2012 7:30:01 PM PST by q_an_a (the more laws the less justice)
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