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There’s No Revolt, No Coup,’ Say House Republicans (GOP unites to raise taxes)
National Review ^

Posted on 12/18/2012 11:51:27 AM PST by Windy City Conservative

“It’s important that we protect as many American taxpayers as we can,” Boehner told reporters. “Our Plan B would protect American taxpayers who make $1 million or less.” For Americans making more than $1 million, the tax rate on their income over that amount would rise from 35 percent, the current rate, to 39.6 percent.

Boehner hopes to bring his “Plan B” legislation to the floor later this week, and plans to update members on the schedule Tuesday night. In the meantime, he said, Republicans should argue that they’re working hard to protect current tax rates.

The Tuesday meeting began at 10 a.m., and the mood was quiet and somber, sources say. Boehner wasn’t cheered or warmly embraced, but he was given respect and time to explain his strategy. “He was his usual self,” says a House staffer familiar with the session. “He wasn’t emotional; it was an update.”

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TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: 112th; boehner; conservtaxincrease; fakegovernment; fiscalcliff; nwo; oneparty
This is Act 4 in the GOP production we see over and over again. This is when the little GOP punks get together and have a cheerleading session and finish twisting the arms of conservatives. I really detest about 75% of GOP House Members, including Mr. go along to get along; the feckless Paul Ryan.
1 posted on 12/18/2012 11:51:30 AM PST by Windy City Conservative
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To: Windy City Conservative

Mark any Republican who votes to raise taxes as a target for a primary challenge.


2 posted on 12/18/2012 11:55:49 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Just 16 percent of Americansbelieve a better economic future awaits their children when they grow up)
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To: Uncle Miltie

We need spending cuts so massive that both sides will cry. This won’t happen with any compromise legislation. Let the Fiscal Cliff happen.


3 posted on 12/18/2012 12:00:24 PM PST by Brownie63
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To: Windy City Conservative

No revolt. No coup. Just a whimper.


4 posted on 12/18/2012 12:02:22 PM PST by TADSLOS (I took extra credit at the School of Hard Knocks)
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To: Windy City Conservative

The White House makes no concessions. They patiently wait for Mr Bonner to do all the bending.

Yes, I know how to spell his name correctly.


5 posted on 12/18/2012 12:05:04 PM PST by lurk
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To: Windy City Conservative

Not a single word on a budget surplus that matches, year by year, any tax increases. It’s like Obama’s Jedi mind trick finally worked and the RINO GOP leadership had the word ‘cut’ removed from their brains.

Pathetic.


6 posted on 12/18/2012 12:06:15 PM PST by RideForever
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To: Windy City Conservative
“It’s important that we protect as many American taxpayers as we can,” Boehner told reporters.

If you want to protect ALL the taxpayers, then stop devaluing the currency by printing up new money to fund government. If you want to save America, then don't raise the debt ceiling.

7 posted on 12/18/2012 12:06:25 PM PST by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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To: Windy City Conservative

So, the TEA Party class of 2010 has been neutered?


8 posted on 12/18/2012 12:11:58 PM PST by Arm_Bears (Ted Kennedy's Oldsmobile has killed more people than my guns.)
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To: Windy City Conservative

I have not paid one dime to this administration, nor will I.


9 posted on 12/18/2012 12:12:54 PM PST by fattigermaster
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To: fattigermaster

Republicans negotiating amongst themselves.

Wonderful.


10 posted on 12/18/2012 12:14:36 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (You cant bring something to its knees that refuses to stand on its own)
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To: Arm_Bears

More likely they got drunk from Spending our way to prosperity.

/S


11 posted on 12/18/2012 12:15:07 PM PST by Bailee
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To: Windy City Conservative

(TO GOP) YOU STUPID F*****G IDIOTS... YOUR PLAN B IS OBAMA’s PLAN A.


12 posted on 12/18/2012 12:30:44 PM PST by 11th Commandment (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Yes. Target all who vote to raise taxes.


13 posted on 12/18/2012 12:35:35 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: 11th Commandment
If you check out DU you will see that they HATE what Obama seems to be currently proposing (raising the level to $400,000 etc.).

They are kicking him all over the place.

14 posted on 12/18/2012 12:37:35 PM PST by what's up
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To: Arm_Bears

Most of the class of 2010 got turned early on.
We send them. Bonehead and the DC Party turns them.


15 posted on 12/18/2012 12:38:02 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: tennmountainman

Let’s face it, the republican party is NO longer. We conservatives need to no MUST, remove them from office as quickly as possible, one by one or en-mass. They MUST GO. When Bonehead Bohner was allowed to immediately remove our representatives from their respective committees when they did NOT agree with his agenda, Bohner went agains’t the people who elected HIM and OUR representatives. Just because someone does not agree with your agenda does not give you the athourity to load the deck in your favor, THAT is NOT democracy.


16 posted on 12/18/2012 12:50:56 PM PST by DaveA37
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To: Windy City Conservative

I am likely staying home in 2014. There is not point to even participating in this charade.


17 posted on 12/18/2012 1:01:41 PM PST by ilgipper (Obama supporters are comprised of the uninformed & the ill-informed)
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To: Windy City Conservative

They passed a bill two years ago, and it seemed to meet the criteria of the anti-tax pledge. That bill sets the tax rates, and on January 1st, in accordance to that bill, the tax rates will return to the Clinton-Era tax rates, for all taxpayers.

Any bill passed that takes affect after January 1st, and that sets any tax rates lower than what they will otherwise be on January 1st, is a tax cut.

I don’t think it is good policy to make the tax rates MORE progressive, but it isn’t a tax increase.

If we pass a bill on January 1st that lowers the tax rate for all earning up to 1 million dollars, that will be a tax cut for EVERY TAXPAYER. Because even those who earn more than 1 million will have their first million taxed at a lower rate.

The fault is those who in 2001 passed a tax bill which expired in 2011, and those in 2010 who passed a tax bill which expires in 2013.

I have a feeling those who earn more than a million dollars would prefer the “Plan B” bill to NOT passing anything.


18 posted on 12/18/2012 1:05:29 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Windy City Conservative
Who wrote this?


19 posted on 12/18/2012 1:11:29 PM PST by McGruff (No New RINOs!)
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To: Windy City Conservative

Tax increases are automatic per 2003 budget reconcilation (less than 60 votes in senate.
Then those expired 2 years ago 2010 and were extended for two years till now.

So claiming that automatic tax increases are being passed by the R house when they are not is only going to help Obama.
(Bohner helped shoot himself by using this same false terminology)

They are not going to revolt for extending tax cuts.


20 posted on 12/18/2012 1:26:18 PM PST by sickoflibs (Dems know how to win. Rs know how to whine.)
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To: Progov

I agree. However, conservatives, if there are any left, should not allow
Bonehead to push them around. Committee assignments or no committee
assignments, conservatives must stand their ground. If they allow Bonehead and Cantor to push them around, shame on them, and they must be removed as well.


21 posted on 12/18/2012 1:30:11 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: ilgipper

Don’t worry, our votes will be replaced by illegals, soon to legal, with the
coming amnesty.


22 posted on 12/18/2012 1:32:21 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: Windy City Conservative

Repeal and replace the Reepublican Party!


23 posted on 12/18/2012 1:33:22 PM PST by Yashcheritsiy (It's time to Repeal and Replace the Republican Party)
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To: ilgipper

Don’t worry, our votes will be replaced by illegals, soon to be legal, with the
coming amnesty. Oh yes, it’s coming.


24 posted on 12/18/2012 1:33:22 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: Uncle Miltie

Unfortunately, it looks likes there are going to be around 200 members to primary.


25 posted on 12/18/2012 1:37:39 PM PST by Windy City Conservative
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To: Hoodat
If you want to save America, then don't raise the debt ceiling.

Bingo. That's the only thing I am watching for now.

26 posted on 12/18/2012 2:08:10 PM PST by houeto (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Windy City Conservative

“Republicans should argue that they’re working hard “

Yeh, working hard to help Obama destroy our country.


27 posted on 12/18/2012 2:16:51 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Arm_Bears

Well, Boehner negotiates a bill to be passed by Dems and RINOs that conservatives vote against.
Everyone wins with their constituencies!

If they do that again though, conservative voters are going to be dispirited in 2014 and the Republican Party will lose a lot of House seats. Plus there’ll be costly primaries.

I’ll be surprised if there’s a deal such as has been described.


28 posted on 12/18/2012 2:27:43 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: Windy City Conservative

What is it about the conundrum that Bush and subsequent Congresses have left the House GOP in that escapes freepers? On January 1 everyone’s taxes goes up because the Bush cuts were temporary and they expire. We automatically go back to the Clinton increases. It requires no vote by either House in Congress. As far as I am concerned everyone’s damn taxes can go up on Jan 1.

But, people may not realize how much middle class taxes will go up. Reports are average family of four an increase of around $2,000.

Boehner is proposing something he can get the majority of his delegation to go for. That is keeping the rates and law the same unless one’s income is over $1 million. Most likely this law will be rejected by the Dems in the Senate or vetoed by 0bama if it passes.

If the Dems reject it, then the big middle class tax increase can be blamed on the Dems. The GOP can say that the Dems were so intent on taxing people earning more than $250,000 that they were at peace with taxing you poor middle class people too.

But it is unfair to call this voting for a tax increase. The tax rate will be 39.6% on people making more than $250,000 in 2013 if no one does anything. Also, everyone who pays tax will pay more in 2013 if Congress does nothing. So Boehner is proposing a tax cut.

It takes both houses of Congress and the President to stop any portion of the tax increases that comes as a matter of current law on 1 Jan 2013.

In some ways, I do hope everyone’s taxes goes up. Serves them right for re-electing a Dem Senate and a Dem President. Elections have consequences.


29 posted on 12/18/2012 3:43:18 PM PST by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts so good.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
I have a feeling those who earn more than a million dollars would prefer the “Plan B” bill to NOT passing anything.

As a final outcome, you're right. But this is a negotiation and it has elements of a game of chicken.

When you and the other driver are speeding toward each other, yes, you'd prefer swerving to crashing. But if you always swerve first then the other driver will never swerve and you will always lose.

This is not how the leaders of a great country should set its fiscal policy. But it's what we're stuck with.
30 posted on 12/18/2012 3:43:55 PM PST by Eagle Forgotten
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To: Windy City Conservative

It’s time to physically throw boner out of the republican party and warn him that if he butts in he will be tarred and feathered. This SOB is a gutless worm and represents neither freedom nor individual rights of patriots.


31 posted on 12/18/2012 4:56:42 PM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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To: Arm_Bears
"So, the TEA Party class of 2010 has been neutered? "

Yep! Just like the class of 94 was neutered...

bonerhead == newt the pillsburydoughboy...

32 posted on 12/18/2012 5:20:05 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
The fault is those who in 2001 passed a tax bill which expired in 2011, and those in 2010 who passed a tax bill which expires in 2013.

Had the administration sought to make the tax cuts permanent in 2001, there would have been NO "Bush tax cuts".

By the rules of the Senate, a "permanent" tax cut is subject to filibuster -- a "temporary" (10 yrs. max.) tax cutcan be passed via reconciliation and is filibuster-proof.

At the time, the Senate was split 50-50, with VP Dick Cheney holding the deciding vote. No way a permanent tax cut gets passed under those circumstances.

If you want to blame somebody for the "temporary" status of the Bush tax cuts, blame Tom Daschle and the Democrats.

33 posted on 12/18/2012 5:26:17 PM PST by okie01
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To: okie01

It is not so much “blame” as explain. You offer the reason why we had to pass a “tax cut” that included the clinton tax rates in 2011, and a later bill to set them to 2013.

But we are supposed to throw out the republican congress now because they are looking to make tax cuts permanent, but can’t include millionaires because of the Senate.

I’m saying that if you are going to blame people for not doing the impossible, blame the 2001 folks.


34 posted on 12/18/2012 5:49:52 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Windy City Conservative

There is only one real issue and that is spending.

The economy produces about 14 trillion a year.

The government spends about 3.8 trillion a year.

They borrow about 1.4 trillion (10% of GDP), so they only bring in about 2.4 trillion a year. IOW, we’re borrowing a bit more than a third of what we spend each year.

Our already accumulated debt is about 15 trillion or slightly more than the GDP.

Let’s say you knew a guy whose business grossed 140,000 a year. He had current debt of 140,000. He paid himself 24,000 a year and he borrowed 14,000 a year to increase his pay, so his total personal spending is 38,000 a year. The remaining 102,000 is used to keep the business running and pay interest on his debt.

It isn’t growing. He’s grossed 140,000 a year or slightly less for 4 straight years. How long can he keep borrowing 14,000 a year if he’s only paying 3% on his borrowed money? How long can he keep his business open?


35 posted on 12/18/2012 5:53:24 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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