Skip to comments.White House: Obama would support new gun laws
Posted on 12/18/2012 12:46:21 PM PST by Hojczyk
OBAMA TO GO FOR GUNS
I dare the prick to try..he wants a civil war, he will get one
My answer is no.
Congress better stop this nonsense dead in its tracks.
Frankly, if the GOP fails to stop it, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM NEED TO BE VOTED OUT, even if it means the entire congress and senate end up being nothing but damn democrats....
But do Senate Democrats? Sure, they might not lose their majority this time but they'll definitely lose some seats.
So the question is; which Democrat Senators are willing to be sacrificial lambs and bury their careers so that Dianne Feinstein can have a symbolic ban on bayonet lugs (because it sure as hell won't be Feinstein herself who gets tossed out of office).
The politicians care not one whit about the citizens.
Their concern is their own skin.
It’s a bit of a DUH. “Never let a crisis go to waste.”
I don’t think his civilian army of brownshirts is quite big enough... yet.
Liberals are the ones who responded to poor conditions to institutions by letting the mentally ill out into the streets with a prayer, instead of improving the institutions. The same is true of their tendency to open the jails and hope for the best of human nature. We need to rebuild the 150K mental hospital beds we had in the 1950s, put involuntary mental incarceration laws back on the books and put a lot of the “homeless” there. But the liberals are the ones who let them out in the 1960s in the first place. Doing what needs to be done is an admission the original action was wrong.
Liberals want the majority of the population to be a mass to be manipulated, with themselves as the elite. Plato versus Aristotle is the liberal-conservative divide today.
It is easier to consider your opposition crazy or stupid than argue facts, figures and rationality. They want masses of social workers policing the actions, behavior and even thoughts of everyone - not forcibly medicating and restraining if necessary the 1-3% of the population that is truly, severely mentally ill. Better to control men by pathologizing them in the guise of mental health than call it a police state. And the excuse is the mentally ill on the streets.
If nothing is anyone’s fault but society’s fault, how then does one explain evil? Excusing evil with a medical diagnosis is one way to explain it, and offers those who deny the existence of personal accountability a way to “cure” it. With, of course, more nanny-statism.
There is more money in making everything other than the perfect personality a mental disorder, instead of spending the resources on the small minority of mentally ill. More money = more power and more jobs for the elite.
To borrow from Atlas Shrugs, if you don’t have lots of mental disorders, you don’t have a way to control people. Parents whose children are labelled as ADD or opposition defiant can be forced into compliance with state supervision or loss of freedoms via a mental health diagnosis and threats of children taken away for failure to “treat” the diagnosis.
You can do a lot of political arm twisting in the guise of medicine. The Soviets invented “sluggish schizophrenia” to lock up those who didn’t see Soviet Russia as paradise. You could lock up and torture political dissidents without officially jailing them.
And there are plenty of liberals who think that conservatives are crazy. And I’ve come across psych surveys seeking to build up a mental disorder to fit “authoritarian, domineering, closed minded” into a mental disorder. Once invented, guns can be taken away in accordance with the mental illness controls on owning weapons, without overtly violating the Second Amendment. One simply declares are conservatives crazy, then takes them.
A government that does not trust the people to be armed
is in fact a tyranny.
It’s that simple, if they (our supposed government)attempt
to disarm us inspite of the constitution and bill of
rights, then they have given up the mandate of the people
and deserve what will happen to them. We can have no
common ground with tyranny.
I fear this effort will have legs due to the fact that so many little kids were killed.
Hope not, but I gotta bad feeling about this one.
Ain’t got one? Better go get one.
Yes, and we can all send them a sternly worded email too.
Your eye rolling makes you sound like a stupid teenage girl. (adjusts)
You just said that if Obama decrees a gun ban, and Congress does nothing to stop it, that we should "vote them out of office".
I think the point was that everything is past voting now, too late for that.
Very well said...and appreciated.
I don’t necessarily disagree, but we still have to try.
I don’t care to argue with an idiot... get lost.
Why don't you just admit that you gave the wrong answer to the question of King Obama disarming the American people, instead of posting petulant replies?
Live free, or go down fighting like our forefathers did. That's the correct answer to the question.
Indeed. Seems lately that one in three Freepers would gladly surrender the one and only thing keeping them free of complete and total slavery.
Makes me nuts.
Commies and Nazis aren’t bulletproof. They can either read history to discover that or experience it again first hand.
“More nosy doctors who dont like guns”
By Michelle Malkin July 8, 2008
Barack 0bama on Gun Control
Both 0bama and H3ll voted to ban guns altogether at some point.
Why don’t you just piss off.
Whassamatta? Did I embarrass you?
Nope, you didn’t embarrass me. I’ve seen your moronic posts in the past and I do not play with fools... so move the F on. Your games and tripe do not interest me. Find some other way to get attention, boy.
Well that's a shame. Any real patriot would have stopped and realized that they were buying into the enemy line that, "there's nothing we can do to stop them."
If and when the SHTF, I hope you mount a better response than you did on this thread.
I see, so because I chose not to play your stupid game, I am “not a patriot”.
You may KMA.
No, no. That's not what I said. I said: "Seems lately that one in three Freepers would gladly surrender the one and only thing keeping them free of complete and total slavery."
I'm not saying that any Freepers actually welcome government suppression of our gun rights. Just that some seem ready to roll right over and give up their guns without a fight. And they're trying to convince the rest of us that resistance to tyranny if futile.
That's my beef.
"They" constructed a long term plan decades ago and are near to closing the deal because good people never thought this push over the edge and let it get too far.
That's probably why S&Ws revenues are up 48% and Zerobama is the world's best gun salesman for the Kool-Aidless.
That's exactly what I mean. There's more doom and gloom being expressed around here than I ever thought I'd see. By my unscientific reckoning, somewhere near a third of the people posting here are ready to surrender and board the train to the government re-education camps.
You may meet more people than I do since I’ve retired but those I know and a few I come in contact with are a little bummed since the commies stole the elction but it’s made them angrier. This is MA and gun shops are selling out to the walls.
IMHO, Texas has to be better than that.
There's a rush on gun stores out here too, but I don't think Texans are taking the loss of the election in quite the same way as folks in some other states are.
Oh, we're bummed alright, but I think it's made us set our jaw a bit more firmly. I'm seeing a lot of "we're doomed" posts on FR, but few have been posted by Texans.
Whatever, whoever they are, we need to prop them up.
Whatever, whoever they are, we need to prop them up.
I try, but sometimes it seems like a thankless task. Some folks seem bound and determined to surrender, and some even want to convince others to give up. I'm not having any of it.
I won’t back down.........