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NRA promises "meaningful contributions" to avert another Newtown
CBS ^ | 12/18/2012 | Brian Montopoli

Posted on 12/18/2012 3:59:27 PM PST by GreaterSwiss

In its first comment following the horrific shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, the National Rifle Association today said it is "prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again."

The NRA went silent in the wake of the tragedy last Friday: The gun-rights group's Facebook page disappeared, it stopped sending out tweets, and it told reporters that "[u]ntil the facts are thoroughly known, NRA will not have any comment."

On Tuesday, the group said it would hold a "major news conference" on Friday, December 21 in the Washington D.C., area to further explain its position. It did not offer additional details on the press conference.

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You would think NRA would say the killer got DENIED when purchasing a gun, the system worked. There's no way to prevent him from stealing it from his mom.
1 posted on 12/18/2012 3:59:33 PM PST by GreaterSwiss
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To: GreaterSwiss

That may be one of the items they plan to mention on Friday.


2 posted on 12/18/2012 4:02:27 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
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To: GreaterSwiss

“(NRA Caves?)”

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Why did you add this “editorial comment” to the headline? Do you believe - word for word - this CBS report? Have you corroborated these “facts” with other news sources?

Or do you - like so many others - just go for the knee-jerk rection when the libeal media spins their agenda?


3 posted on 12/18/2012 4:05:04 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: GreaterSwiss

The NRA is our 500lb gorilla, let’s hope they come through on the right side.


4 posted on 12/18/2012 4:05:29 PM PST by stevio (God, guns, guts.)
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To: GreaterSwiss
"Meaningful Contributions" from the NRA long ago turned into the same thing as "Meaningful Contributions" from the Republican Party to me.

For right-minded gun owners, it means BOHICA.

5 posted on 12/18/2012 4:05:58 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: GreaterSwiss

Without an AR-15 he could have done the same damage with two Civil War Henrys and several CW pistols.


6 posted on 12/18/2012 4:06:17 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Reopen the mental institutions! Damn the ACLU!)
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To: stevio

Perhaps. Here’s a chance for the NRA to turns this tragedy turned political football into a, as much as I hate this smarmy phrase, teachable moment.


7 posted on 12/18/2012 4:08:30 PM PST by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

He could have killed just as many children and adults with a shotgun. And, he had access to at least one.


8 posted on 12/18/2012 4:08:36 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

USAToday:
The National Rifle Association has put out a statement saying it is “prepared to offer meaningful contributions” to prevent more violence like that which occurred in Newtown, Conn., last week. The organization said it will hold a news conference in the Washington, D.C., area on Friday.


9 posted on 12/18/2012 4:12:09 PM PST by GreaterSwiss
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To: GreaterSwiss

Also the NRA could inject some perspective in the gun control argument. In a way, the NRA was the original civil rights movement. In the midst of the lyncings going on in the late 1800-early 1900’s the NRA was advocating helping poor Blacks obtain firearms and ammo to protect themselves from the White supremacist/kkk wing of the democrat party.


10 posted on 12/18/2012 4:13:23 PM PST by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

“Without an AR-15 he could have done the same damage with two Civil War Henrys and several CW pistols.”

From what I understand, it took 20 minutes for the first responders to arrive. In that amount of time he could have done the same damage with a bolt action 22.


11 posted on 12/18/2012 4:13:23 PM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

No doubt.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1BwUJ4—Qw

Anyone who honestly thinks it’s the AR is a complete moron. In a closed environment, he could have probably used a powerful slingshot of 5 and 6 year olds.


12 posted on 12/18/2012 4:13:25 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: GreaterSwiss

From the NRA website:

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“Important Statement from the National Rifle Association

Posted on December 18, 2012

The National Rifle Association of America is made up of four million moms and dads, sons and daughters – and we were shocked, saddened and heartbroken by the news of the horrific and senseless murders in Newtown.

Out of respect for the families, and as a matter of common decency, we have given time for mourning, prayer and a full investigation of the facts before commenting.

The NRA is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again.

The NRA is planning to hold a major news conference in the Washington, DC area on Friday, December 21.

Details will be released to the media at the appropriate time”

http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/news-from-nra-ila/2012/12/important-statement-from-the-national-rifle-association.aspx?s=&st=&ps=


13 posted on 12/18/2012 4:14:00 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: GreaterSwiss

Dr. Suzanna Hupp Testimony to congress on the mass shooting that killed her parents in a gun free zone where she obeyed the law and left her gun in the car.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvTO-y-B2YM


14 posted on 12/18/2012 4:14:34 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: GreaterSwiss

I suspect they will offer something, and maybe ask for the ability of some teachers to be armed. More than likely they will offer the AR platform to be banned (most of the older, moneyed donors don’t like them anyway).


15 posted on 12/18/2012 4:14:49 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: GreaterSwiss
Why not discuss the facts? EVERY shooter chose a gun free zone, because they knew the people there had no self defense. Had one - just one - person been armed anywhere, the carnage could have been prevented. Instead - guns were outlawed.
If this is what happens in buildings that are disarmed, imagine the horrors that would happen to our entire country if it were disarmed!!!!
16 posted on 12/18/2012 4:15:21 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: GreaterSwiss
NRA promises "meaningful contributions" to avert another Newtown

Free firearm training for school teachers?
Assistance for school teachers to get CCW permits?

I can't think of anything else they could do.

17 posted on 12/18/2012 4:15:27 PM PST by TheDon (Criminalizing self defense contributed to the Sandy Hook massacre.)
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To: GreaterSwiss

Dem’s Mass Murders Enabling Plan:

Make more people into sitting ducks so more mass murders can be done.

This mass murder was enabled by the Dem Party and they should be jailed for accessory to the crime.


18 posted on 12/18/2012 4:16:21 PM PST by OldArmy52 (The question is not whether Obama ever lies, but whether he ever tells the truth.)
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To: cripplecreek

I think you should post that as an article.


19 posted on 12/18/2012 4:16:46 PM PST by Jean S
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To: TheDon

Me either. Offer handgun training to any teachers willing and help them with retrofitting desks with drawer locks accessible by the teacher’s hand/palm-prints.
As long as public schools are `gun-free’ zones they remain killing grounds for mentally ill gun-thieves. If I had school age children I would home-school them.


20 posted on 12/18/2012 4:21:59 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives. "A long train of abuses and usurpations.")
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To: GreaterSwiss
The National Journal is also blasting away at the NRA - simply because they won't comment until the facts are known.

 

NRA’s Social Media Strategy: Go Dark
National Journal ^ | Tuesday, December 18, 2012 | Elahe Izadi
 

Posted on Tuesday, December 18, 2012 6:07:06 PM by Jyotishi

When a mass shooting occurs, the National Rifle Association’s communications shop typically goes dark, particularly its highly visible social media channels. That has certainly been the case post-Newtown. The organization’s Facebook page, with its more than 1.7 million likes, has been hidden with users being redirected to Facebook’s homepage. Its Twitter account, with more than 65,000 followers, has been silent since Friday as well.

As a behemoth powerhouse in politics, the NRA is also highly active on social media channels. To put it into perspective, Republican communications consultant Michael Turk points out that the NRA’s page surpasses the RNC’s Facebook page, which has 1.1 million likes. The gun group’s Facebook presence also certainly eclipses the anti-gun lobby Brady Campaign, which has 42,000 likes.

(Excerpt) Read more at nationaljournal.com ...


 

Leave it to Breitbart to correctly assess the NRA situation.

 

NRA Releases Statement, Shows More Class than Media

Tuesday, December 18, 2012 6:17:48 PM · by servo1969
breitbart.com ^ | 12-18-2012 | John Nolte
Waiting () was both the humane thing for the NRA to do and the smart thing tactically. By waiting until today, the NRA now knows what the media's tactics are; and by waiting a few days after making this announcement to hold the actual presser, they will have an idea of how our unbiased, objective, open-minded, impartial, non-ideological media intends to absolutely crush and destroy them. What the NRA now has is the time needed to formulate arguments and to put forward that which our craven, opportunistic media has not -- a serious, pro-active plan to ensure Sandy Hook can’t...

21 posted on 12/18/2012 4:22:47 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: GreaterSwiss

I hope that they say:

1. “Assault weapons” were not used.
2. “huge clips” were certainly not a factor - he had all the time he needed to reload.
3. “laws to keep from mentally ill” would not have helped here.
4. “more checks needed” to purchase would have had no effect.
5. “training requirements” would have been useless.

All in all, I want to see them produce a very well supported white paper stating that we need to end “gun free zones” - that virtually all “mass killings” occur in those stupid spots. That if teachers and school workers were encouraged to carry, that is the best shot. Also, that they support posting guards, as is true in Israel.

Israelis are baffled that we don’t.
http://blogs.jpost.com/content/sandy-hook-slaughter-american-innocence-israeli-realism

I agree with Huckabee and Kudlow that the true solution also involves turning back to God and somehow curbing violent video games, and mental health care discussions, but those ought to be outside the realm of the white paper of the NRA.


22 posted on 12/18/2012 4:25:30 PM PST by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
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To: Red in Blue PA

slingshot?

Baseball Bat would have been more reliable weapon to kill first graders.


23 posted on 12/18/2012 4:27:22 PM PST by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
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To: OldArmy52
Make more people into sitting ducks so more mass murders can be done.

The democrats are already using their little dead bodies to drum up campaign contributions.

Pathetic!!!!

24 posted on 12/18/2012 4:29:28 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: redgolum

Banning the most popular sporting rifle (and tyranny repellant) platform in the nation is not negotiable...


25 posted on 12/18/2012 4:29:33 PM PST by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: GreaterSwiss
There's no way to prevent him from stealing it from his mom.

He KILLED his mom to get access to her guns.

26 posted on 12/18/2012 4:29:45 PM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Yo-Yo

He could have killed her without a gun, and taken his jolly good time to break into any safe. Most would succumb to a day or so of serious effort. He would have had the time.


27 posted on 12/18/2012 4:33:29 PM PST by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
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There's no way to prevent him from stealing it from his mom.
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He KILLED his mom to get access to her guns.

What if (all of) the guns had been locked in a gun safe? One that he did not have access/combination to?

28 posted on 12/18/2012 4:37:08 PM PST by Jane Long (Philippians 2:11)
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To: AFPhys

Perhaps after a day or two someone would’ve noticed the mom missing.


29 posted on 12/18/2012 4:39:53 PM PST by Jane Long (Philippians 2:11)
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To: GreaterSwiss

You are so wrong !
But your pushing a hit piece from the Commie Broadcast service .
A certified Obama propaganda outlet .

Fox reported the NRA plans to push back with demand to
On gaming industry and mental health experts to be make Changes in there fields !
They are going after Hollywood aha obamawood too !
Excellent strategy !


30 posted on 12/18/2012 4:45:07 PM PST by ncalburt (Axelrod Psych OPS has gone to 24/7 non stop - "The election is over " status until Nov)
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To: GreaterSwiss

How can anyone “make sure” this never happens again?


31 posted on 12/18/2012 4:45:40 PM PST by Terry Mross ( I don't watch the "news". Someone ping me if anything big happens.)
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To: Jane Long

what if she did and that was he last act by being forced?

what if? this or that?

hind sight.

monday morning quarterbacking.

there have been many storage discussions here on fr.

we simply do not know.

I am more curious about this drug he was taking.


32 posted on 12/18/2012 4:46:01 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: GreaterSwiss

The guy was a violent nut job. If he hadn’t been able to get guns, he could’ve built a bomb. A bad guy is gonna do bad things if he really wants to; he’ll find a way.


33 posted on 12/18/2012 4:46:14 PM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: AFPhys

The NRA had an excellent ad when Pat Purdy shot up the Stockton school yard. Unfortunately logic was overcome by an MSM inspired panic.


34 posted on 12/18/2012 4:50:55 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Reopen the mental institutions! Damn the ACLU!)
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To: Terry Mross
How can anyone “make sure” this never happens again?

As long as there are gun free zones ("Over here! We're unarmed"), there will be more. The target can't fight back..... and they advertise it!

35 posted on 12/18/2012 4:50:59 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: TheDon

Suggest that every school that’s interested designate a “first responder” who willl have available a firearm in a controlled-access site, and offer free training to that designated individual not only in firearm use, but appropriate response to a Columbine / Sandy Hook incident. And make an offer to financially support local law enforcement in coordinating with that school representative both training and response to such an incident.

In just about every case of these travesties, the perp halted his killing rampage (and often turned the gun on himself) once confronted by an armed challenge. And none of them was deterred by “gun-free zone” signage or hand-wringing over gun control.


36 posted on 12/18/2012 4:51:43 PM PST by Stosh
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To: Stosh

Sounds good. I think the PTB will implement something that will cause more school children to be murdered.


37 posted on 12/18/2012 4:55:11 PM PST by TheDon (Criminalizing self defense contributed to the Sandy Hook massacre.)
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To: redgolum
More than likely they will offer the AR platform to be banned (most of the older, moneyed donors don’t like them anyway).

A lot of the Fudds got the boot in the last couple of elections. If they do "offer" any further restrictions they will be a group with no members.

My life member card will do a Cheech and Chong immitation and go "up in smoke".

38 posted on 12/18/2012 4:56:21 PM PST by SpeakerToAnimals (I hope to earn a name in battle)
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To: ncalburt

That’s good that the NRA is thinking this out to counter.


39 posted on 12/18/2012 4:59:05 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: concerned about politics

look at v for vendetta.

the bad guys selected a school to inspire horror so THEY could provide the solution.


40 posted on 12/18/2012 4:59:05 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: SpeakerToAnimals

This poster is wrong .
Fox just announced the NRA will be going after
Hollywood violence and Video fame industry and the mental health industry !


41 posted on 12/18/2012 4:59:25 PM PST by ncalburt (Axelrod Psych OPS has gone to 24/7 non stop - "The election is over " status until Nov)
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To: All

the government created this problem and now they want to sell us the solution for only a few pieces of silver.


42 posted on 12/18/2012 4:59:54 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: GreaterSwiss

My guess is that the right is finally waking up and is getting tired of being bludgeoned by the left....

Here is what I mean.... If you give the left enough rope they will hang themselves literally. (ban rope) We know the left has an agenda to remove all guns from society but the vast majority support the second ammendment, in won’t be long before the left revelling in victory will demand more and more controls at which point they will expose themselves similar to the healthcare reform debate and the country will get up in arms about it.


43 posted on 12/18/2012 5:01:37 PM PST by Typical_Whitey (The political mirage of something for nothing; has ruined many a nation.)
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To: GreaterSwiss

My guess is that the right is finally waking up and is getting tired of being bludgeoned by the left....

Here is what I mean.... If you give the left enough rope they will hang themselves literally. (ban rope) We know the left has an agenda to remove all guns from society but the vast majority support the second ammendment, in won’t be long before the left revelling in victory will demand more and more controls at which point they will expose themselves similar to the healthcare reform debate and the country will get up in arms about it.


44 posted on 12/18/2012 5:01:50 PM PST by Typical_Whitey (The political mirage of something for nothing; has ruined many a nation.)
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To: SpeakerToAnimals

Did the NRA learn the lesson about supporting democrats and rinos?


45 posted on 12/18/2012 5:03:10 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Red Steel

Exactly
Go after the Dem party money suppliers and the lobs that
Shut down the mental institutions !

Apparently the shooting was about mom trying to commit
The son !
And it looks like the school administrator and counselor may have been involved in the commitment process .
The supposed argument seen the day before !

And the kids shot in the first grade were the kids she volunteer for last year !


46 posted on 12/18/2012 5:03:48 PM PST by ncalburt (Axelrod Psych OPS has gone to 24/7 non stop - "The election is over " status until Nov)
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To: GreaterSwiss

Gun controllers would say, yes there is a way to stop him from stealing it from his mom; by stealing it from his mom.


47 posted on 12/18/2012 5:06:40 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Typical_Whitey

we will not have a meaninful fight until we call out the MSM media mob. (including FNC)

Newt almost figured it out but backed off.

MSNBC CNN CBS etc are the enemies of freedom. They are the familiars to the betway aristocracy.


48 posted on 12/18/2012 5:09:39 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: GreaterSwiss

I just got a letter form the NRA asking for me to join them. It is sitting on my desk awaiting what they say Friday.


49 posted on 12/18/2012 5:12:16 PM PST by matt04
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To: Axenolith

Step out side the echo chamber FRiend. Cerberus just dropped all of their firearm group. They spent millions upon millions creating Freedom group, and they are dropping to so fast they may be sued. This is the largest firearm group in the world, whose value has doubled this year along, deciding to divest. They have the connections to see what is going to happen.

This is a big money group. Bigger than most here can fathom. They are trying to get something for it, before all of the holdings are worth nothing.

The AR have a 75% chance of going away, along with most semi autos. If we are really lucky, it won’t be out right confiscation. If we are extremely lucky it will just be a magazine ban and ammo limitations.

I don’t want that, but the State will take action. Most politicians do not like the idea of the common man being armed. It scares the heck out of them.


50 posted on 12/18/2012 5:13:34 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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