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John Lott Destroys CNN's Soledad O'Brien on Gun Free Zones (Watch Video)
Townhall ^ | 12/18/2012 | Katie Pavlich

Posted on 12/18/2012 5:46:26 PM PST by SeekAndFind

Mass shootings in the United States have at least one thing in common: they all happen in in gun free zones. Yesterday economist and author of More Guns Less Crime John Lott went on CNN with anchor Soledad O'Brien to discuss why mass shootings occur in gun free zones. O'Brien as usual, wasn't interested in factual data Lott was presenting and continually cut him off as he was making his points.

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John Lott, the gun advocate who recently had a heated encounter with Piers Morgan, spoke to Soledad O'Brien on Monday morning — continuing to make his pro-gun argument. O'Brien had a hard time stomaching Lott's perspective, telling him she simply does not understand it.

The common feature across such attacks, Lott said, is that, with few exceptions, they've occurred where guns have been banned. "But there's more than one thing in common, right?" O'Brien asked, adding that they're armed, often with semi-automatic weapons.

The point, Lott underlined, is that these "gun-free" pockets are the ones that are targeted. Specifically, he spoke about the gunman who chose the movie theater in Aurora, as opposed to other nearby theaters. O'Brien countered that Lott hasn't spoken to him and has no way of knowing the gunman's thought process. "How do you know that?" she asked. "You don't know that."

"Why is your takeaway from all of this to get rid of gun laws — and your takeaway is not to say, 'There are people who should not have access to certain types of weapons,'" O'Brien questioned.In this instance, she said, we know the gunman used a semi-automatic rifle to breaking into the building, rendering their security useless. "Why would you not say that's exactly the kind of weapon that someone should not be able to easily get their hands on?"

Lott said that Germany had three of the five worst public shootings in the world. And Germany has extremely strict gun control laws. "Yet they've had a worse record," Lott said.

"I don't argue Second Amendment, I argue crime," Lott said. 


Like most liberal media personalities, O'Brien is ignorant about how guns actually work. It is also clear throughout the interview she doesn't understand the difference between automatic and semi-automatic weapons.

O’Brien’s further ignorance of this topic is revealed when, after dismissing Lott’s citation of Germany, which has essentially banned semi-automatic weapons but has a terrible record of school shootings, she again claims that “a rational person could say that having access to a high-powered, semi-automatic rifle is inappropriate, that there’s no reason to go deer-hunting with that.” The “assault weapon” used in Newtown, however, as in Colorado, was actually not a legal deer rifle because it is actually not “high powered,” it’s too weak to safely kill a deer.

O'Brien, who is supposed to be an objective news anchor, not only exposed her own agenda yesterday but the agenda of mainstream media outlets everywhere. After all, CNN's Don Lemon said yesterday that "it doesn't matter" gun crime is down all over the country, incorrectly stated that automatic weapons are roaming the streets and implied anyone who owns a semi-automatic weapon wants to hunt kids. Both O'Brien and Lemon work in a building in New York City protected by security guards armed with semi-automatic weapons.

During her interview with Lott, O'Brien said his positions on the issue "boggled her mind," and yet as Megan McArdle points out today, there really isn't much we could have done to prevent the horrific massacre last week.

What Lanza shows us is the limits of the obvious policy responses.  He had all the mental health resources he needed--and he did it anyway.  The law stopped him from buying a gun--and he did it anyway.  The school had an intercom system aimed at stopping unauthorized entry--and he did it anyway.  Any practical, easy-to-implement solution to school shootings that you could propose, along with several that were not at all easy to implement, was already in place.  Somehow, Lanza blew through them all. 

In the end, none of this will comfort the families of those whose children were killed last week however, moving forward it is important to keep factual and logical arguments in mind to prevent turning even more people into "gun free zone" victims.

 


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; cnn; guncontrol; guns; johnlott; secondamendment; soledadobrien
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1 posted on 12/18/2012 5:46:33 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Soledad OBrien seems often confused.

Every time I see her debating in a video clip she's having her head handed to her.

2 posted on 12/18/2012 6:01:47 PM PST by skeeter
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To: SeekAndFind

Who watches cable? I cut the cord a long time ago.


3 posted on 12/18/2012 6:03:00 PM PST by joshua c (Please dont feed the liberals)
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To: skeeter

How could someone with such a boggled mind make it through Harvard?


4 posted on 12/18/2012 6:04:47 PM PST by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: SeekAndFind
O'Brien is ignorant

Like most liberals she is overly emotional and lacks common sense.

5 posted on 12/18/2012 6:05:12 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: SeekAndFind

They will not listen to reason, they will only listen to power and we had better show them some power when this bill hits the floor of the House. It better not even come up for debate.


6 posted on 12/18/2012 6:05:20 PM PST by RC one (FU liberals.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I think it obvious that a person armed with a pump action 12ga loaded with 00 buck could have inflicted as much or more carnage at Newtown. 9rd tubular magazines are common and reloading is quick and easy.

It’s not the guns, it’s evil people.


7 posted on 12/18/2012 6:07:44 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: SeekAndFind

Timothy McVeigh...168 lives lost including 19 children under age 6...no firearms involved!


8 posted on 12/18/2012 6:10:15 PM PST by sonofagun (Some think my cynicism grows with age. I like to think of it as wisdom!)
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To: SeekAndFind
CLICK ABOVE LINK FOR THE VIDEO

Can't find any video.Do you have to sign up or PAY to access?

FMCDH(BITS)

9 posted on 12/18/2012 6:10:15 PM PST by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: nothingnew; SeekAndFind

I saw that flipping through Youtube on my TV. But it was titled “Soledad wrecks Lott”


10 posted on 12/18/2012 6:11:35 PM PST by Celerity
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To: SeekAndFind

She seemed frustrated that the facts were not on her side.


11 posted on 12/18/2012 6:12:20 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Wow, John Lott is a saint. I can’t believe he didn’t reach out of the screen and choke the hell out of that grandstanding bitch.


12 posted on 12/18/2012 6:13:31 PM PST by krb (Obama is a miserable failure.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Do they come any dumber than Soledad O’Brien? I don’t think so ......


13 posted on 12/18/2012 6:14:44 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: nothingnew

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8C6Wkkabcbs&feature=player_embedded


14 posted on 12/18/2012 6:15:40 PM PST by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: CaptainK

I get the impression that Soledad’s mind would be boggled by a feather tied to a piece of string. She has to be one of the dumbest people in the news media.


15 posted on 12/18/2012 6:16:03 PM PST by FreedomForce (Living in the Age of American Soft Despotism)
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To: SeekAndFind; All

Our media are bigger co-dependents than Nancy Lanza

I think the last quote by Miss McArdle summed everything...”he blew right thru that”

Eventually, even the extremist Gun Grabber is going to have to realize....the only way you stop people like Lanza is one good shot penetrating the skull and into the brain


16 posted on 12/18/2012 6:17:18 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (Seems that the ones who understand little about the economy are economists)
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To: CaptainK
How could someone with such a boggled mind make it through Harvard?

Harvard has a 98% graduation rate. Once accepted (for whatever reason), it's more of a challenge not to graduate.

17 posted on 12/18/2012 6:17:26 PM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: nothingnew

RE: Can’t find any video.Do you have to sign up or PAY to access?

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No you don’t have to. See here:

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2012/12/18/john-lott-destroys-cnns-soledad-obrien-on-gun-free-zones-n1469461


18 posted on 12/18/2012 6:18:38 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: sonofagun
Timothy McVeigh...168 lives lost including 19 children under age 6...no firearms involved!

Twenty one children 1 through 13 years were burned alive at Waco by the government.

19 posted on 12/18/2012 6:20:17 PM PST by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: muir_redwoods
9rd tubular

Is that pronounced nerd?

20 posted on 12/18/2012 6:21:48 PM PST by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: CaptainK

Affirmative action, maybe?


21 posted on 12/18/2012 6:22:09 PM PST by mortal19440
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To: BerryDingle

Massacres by the govt don’t count though/s


22 posted on 12/18/2012 6:24:01 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: skeeter

Soledad O’Brien is the very epitome of a “progressive” airhead.


23 posted on 12/18/2012 6:24:41 PM PST by House Atreides
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To: SeekAndFind

That was not a report, it was an opinion of the reporter with no information on her side and facts directly opposite to her feelings.

Simply pitiful.


24 posted on 12/18/2012 6:25:06 PM PST by jafojeffsurf (Return to the Constitution)
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To: nothingnew

Huh? I watched it.


25 posted on 12/18/2012 6:25:26 PM PST by zagger
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To: RC one; All
Spread this video far and wide 0 it’ll scare the bejeebers out of the lib s and the politicians who don’t realize it.

These numbers are just for the hunters who’ve applied for hunters licences! Imagine how many more gun owners are out there! (Warms the cockles of me heart.)

This may be why the regime has been timid to take on gun owners directly, especially before the election - ahahah How ya gonn take that many guna away from a free poople?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XjSSUC8IlY

26 posted on 12/18/2012 6:28:37 PM PST by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: SeekAndFind

Sorry - I mistakenly responded to your response. Nevermind. Wish this site had some way to edit posts.


27 posted on 12/18/2012 6:29:28 PM PST by zagger
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To: SeekAndFind

At the very end she states “I just completely do not understand it”...that about sums up Soledud nO’Brain on pretty much any issue.


28 posted on 12/18/2012 6:31:58 PM PST by RckyRaCoCo (I prefer liberty with danger to peace with slavery, IXNAY THE TSA!)
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To: SeekAndFind
it is actually not “high powered,” it’s too weak to safely kill a deer.

Oh! Stop it!...Does anyone know the theory of why .223 M-16 replaced 7.62 (long round) M-14 in Viet Nam??

29 posted on 12/18/2012 6:36:17 PM PST by M-cubed
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To: jafojeffsurf

jafojeffsurf~: “ That was not a report, it was an opinion of the reporter with no information on her side and facts directly opposite to her feelings.
Simply pitiful. “

Exactly so !!
Another talking head Bimbo
Demorats ‘feel’ and have emotion ; Pubs think and argue with FACTS
Most Mainstreamedia newsreports are now opinion pages , devoid of FACTS !


30 posted on 12/18/2012 6:37:17 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt ("Liberalism is the transformation of mankind into cattle." ~ Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche (1878))
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To: Sooth2222; CaptainK
Harvard has a 98% graduation rate.

At the rates they charge there is no compelling reason to flunk anyone!

31 posted on 12/18/2012 6:38:39 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew (double trouble, here we come)
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To: SeekAndFind

Lott needs to argue that if the teachers or staff was allowed to be armed, the killer could have been stop. Current laws do not allow teachers or staff to have guns on gun free zone schools.
Arguing that an AR-15 is no different from a hunting rifle (technically correct) is a PR disaster because the uninformed do not know that. Lott should point out that the US cannot ban semi autos because it is the best gun to have in self defense (bad economy and fear of crime would understand that). Second he should point out that guns are used 160,000 times annually to thwart off crime which can potentially resulted in rape, death or serious injuries to an unarmed victim. Crazy people, criminals and terrorists will get the semi auto no matter what the laws are. Banning these guns from law abiding armed citizens will endanger their ability to defend themselves against better armed attackers. There is no perfect law to prevent that crazies from getting guns absolutely. Current laws stop most of the unlawful buying of guns, but a few will get thru. When that happens how will liberals deal with that. Gun bans will make it worst for the law abiding citizen, but allowing law abiding citizens to be armed makes better sense. In summary, these types of killers in the first place want to commit suicide and take out as many people in the process to get headlines. Notice they never try this at bars frequent by bikers or off duty cops.
Finally the problem is not institutionalizing mentally violent people who are incapable of taking meds on time. They wander the streets causing violence on the rest of society until they snap and commit murder/mayhem. The US does not need more gun control, they need mental people control.


32 posted on 12/18/2012 6:38:49 PM PST by Fee
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To: House Atreides

I’ll raise you your “airhead” and call her a liberal dip-$hit. She’s amazing to listen to, there’s nothing that will change her opinion and she’s happy to let everyone know how righteous she is. CNN’s got a real bimbo on their hands. Simply remarkable. There, that’s my opinion.


33 posted on 12/18/2012 6:51:09 PM PST by paulcissa (The first requirement of Liberalism is to stand on your head and tell the world they're upside down)
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To: SeekAndFind

I really don’t want to give anyone any ideas, BUT, it sure is surprising that MSDNC, CNN etal do not have a trespass order against the likes of someone such as John Lott.

He is not one of these airheads that all of a sudden ‘pops up’ to be a ‘specialist’ on the issue de jour but is well, read, schooled, knows what he is talking about, and knows how to express himself and hold the idiots at bay etc etc.

How they can put their ‘featherweights’ up against him is really surprising....

Shows just how smart those idiots are....


34 posted on 12/18/2012 6:53:43 PM PST by xrmusn (6/98 "It is virtually impossible to clean the pond as long as the pigs are still crapping in it")
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To: SeekAndFind
OK, Soledad. Sure. Let's have a discussion about guns...

Let’s Have That Conversation About Guns

35 posted on 12/18/2012 6:57:02 PM PST by Gritty (If any of the Western world is to survive, it has to find a way to turn around, to go back-Mk Steyn)
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To: muir_redwoods

Yeah, Lanza had roughly 660 seconds from the time he entered the school to when he killed himself. It’s difficult to imagine any gun made in the past 100 years that wouldn’t have allowed him to kill 28 defenseless people in all that time.


36 posted on 12/18/2012 6:58:12 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Cigarettes are like squirrels: Perfectly harmless until you put one in your mouth and set it on fire)
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To: SeekAndFind
Man, that is painful to watch. O'Brien contorts her face into bizarre grimaces as she desperately tries to not understand what Lott says. She cuts him off, won't let him get a word in, ignores his points, and reveals her own deep ignorance about guns and gun control. She appears unaware that she is doing any of that.

Of course, she is convinced that she is Lott's moral superior and that his profound expertise should be ignored.

All together now, let's sing the liberals' theme song:

FEELINGS...
GUSHING FORTH WITH FEELINGS...

37 posted on 12/18/2012 7:02:08 PM PST by TChad
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To: SeekAndFind

democrats and liberals feel that writing a law solves a problems when they are ignorant of what the problem really is....thay got no brain cells that work...


38 posted on 12/18/2012 7:04:56 PM PST by goat granny
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To: paulcissa

I’ll second that. She is just an amazing woman. And I mean that, of course, in a very negative way.


39 posted on 12/18/2012 7:05:40 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Republicans have made themselves useless, toothless, and clueless.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I would not have been so kind. I would have told her that obviously her mind is boggled since she wants to disarm even more American citizens and make them helpless before violent criminals.


40 posted on 12/18/2012 7:16:30 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: M-cubed

***** “Oh! Stop it!...Does anyone know the theory of why .223 M-16 replaced 7.62 (long round) M-14 in Viet Nam??” ******

Don’t know what the “OFFICIAL” theory is but I do know you could carry the lighter M-16 a lot further, along with a lot more ammo and then there is the “Spray and Pray” Tactic.

I wish I could buy an M-14 off the shelf... (that was my favorite Rifle).

TT


41 posted on 12/18/2012 7:20:00 PM PST by TexasTransplant (Radical islam is islam. Moderate islam is the Trojan Horse.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Lott was stating facts, facts she did not want to hear, and all she could say was he SHOULDN’T have that gun...he SHOULDN’T have that gun. Well, Honey, he did... If one teacher had been armed many more kids would still be alive. Someone SHOULD have shot his ass.


42 posted on 12/18/2012 7:22:55 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: maine-iac7

YouTube link didn’t work, do you have the title of the video ?


43 posted on 12/18/2012 7:28:42 PM PST by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: CaptainK

“How could someone with such a boggled mind make it through Harvard?”

You’re kidding, right?


44 posted on 12/18/2012 7:34:21 PM PST by chickenlips
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To: Sooth2222; CaptainK
‘Harvard has a 98% graduation rate. Once accepted (for whatever reason), it's more of a challenge not to graduate.’

BINGO, We have a winner.

HAAAAARVAAARD is a BS School populated with future Kings of the World who are mental midgets shoehorned in by legacy
(Think the entire Kennedy Clan), Affirmative Action candidates better suited for the local Community College (Think O’Bumbler and his Beast wife), and those who are truly gifted with intellect, about 20% of the undergraduates.

The key to Harvard and all its’ promise of future glory is in getting admitted. Once you are in, you are set for life. It is a way for the elites to STAY elite.

45 posted on 12/18/2012 7:42:59 PM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: goat granny

.........but it makes them feeeel better because thy care.


46 posted on 12/18/2012 7:50:24 PM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: morphing libertarian

Yep they get to feel self rightous that they made a law...a useless law, but a law none the less.....useless eaters to quote some liberal or communist/marxist


47 posted on 12/18/2012 7:53:39 PM PST by goat granny
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To: SeekAndFind
Hey Soledad,


48 posted on 12/18/2012 7:58:44 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Fee
I agree, but it also must be said that Semi-Auto and Auto matic weapons are a 19th century technology. Any metal worker with access to a reasonably decent set of tools can mill and create a rapid fire Auto or Semi-Auto rifle in no time at all, and mass produce it if he so desires.

The most prominent platform for Semi-Auto pistols is the Colt 1911, that is more than 100 years old and is virtually unchanged since John Browning developed it. The AK 47 is DAMN near 70 years old, the modern ‘Assault Rifle, IS 70 years old and developed in Germany during WW II.

The Genie is out of the bottle and any CRIMINAL could get hold of one if he wants one. All gun laws do is to prevent the law abiding, IE: GOOD GUYS, from having the protection offered by one. ALSO there are an estimated 250-300 MILLION firearms in private citizens hands in the U.S.A., How are you going to get rid of all of them?

49 posted on 12/18/2012 8:05:49 PM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: CaptainK
How could someone with such a boggled mind make it through Harvard?

Perhaps that tells us something about Harvard.

50 posted on 12/18/2012 8:05:49 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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