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Occupy Movement Says ‘Violence Will Be Necessary to Achieve Our Goals’
PJM ^ | Oct 11, 2011

Posted on 12/19/2012 6:07:33 AM PST by combat_boots

Citizen journalist Ringo captured this speaker at the Occupy Los Angeles camp a few days ago letting the cat out of the bag: After dismissing nonviolence as a dead end, he admits that for the Occupiers to achieve their goals, violence and bloodshed will be necessary:

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Here’s a transcript, starting at 32 seconds into the video:

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Occupy L.A. Speaker: “One of the speakers said the solution is nonviolent movement. No, my friend. I’ll give you two examples: French Revolution, and Indian so-called Revolution.

Gandhi, Gandhi today is, with respect to all of you, Gandhi today is a tumor that the ruling class is using constantly to mislead us. French Revolution made fundamental transformation. But it was bloody.

India, the result of Gandhi, is 600 million people living in maximum poverty.

So, ultimately, the bourgeoisie won’t go without violent means. Revolution! Yes, revolution that is led by the working class.

Long live revolution! Long live socialism!”

Crowd: [Cheers.]

Incredibly, he praises the massacres of the French Revolution’s Reign of Terror rather than Gandhi’s nonviolent philosophy.

And the crowd laps it up.

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1 posted on 12/19/2012 6:07:39 AM PST by combat_boots
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To: combat_boots

And I’ll be more than happy to show them the errors of their ways. Bunch of stupid atheists.


2 posted on 12/19/2012 6:09:03 AM PST by ABQHispConservative (Only fake Christians vote or are Democrats.)
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To: combat_boots

Good. I wish they would bring it on. Revolution may be the only way to save this country but our side will NEVER start it.


3 posted on 12/19/2012 6:09:55 AM PST by pgkdan (We are witnessing the modern sack of Rome. The barbarians have taken over.)
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“Occupy the NRA. A nice non-violent protest at the headquarters of the NRA would be interesting. Stay off their property. Hold up large signs with pictures of shooting victims (you have thousands to choose from this year alone). Follow Wayne LaPierre every time he appears in public. I dare him to shoot you.”

Jane Smiley, Huffington Post
Dec 19, 2012
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jane-smiley/a-few-remedies-for-the-ri_b_2323494.html


4 posted on 12/19/2012 6:10:17 AM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: pgkdan

>>adfRevolution may be the only way to save this country but our side will NEVER start it.<<

But we’ll end it.


5 posted on 12/19/2012 6:11:27 AM PST by freedumb2003 (Here comes bama claus here comes bama claus left down bama claus lane!)
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To: combat_boots

They can try.


6 posted on 12/19/2012 6:11:57 AM PST by sauropod (I will not comply)
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To: combat_boots

Judging from the limp wristed, faggity ass spaghetti arms I’ve seen at OWS, this shouldn’t too much of a problem.


7 posted on 12/19/2012 6:12:24 AM PST by albie
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To: combat_boots

Bill Ayers always said he wanted to murder 25,000,000 Americans to show us who’s boss.


8 posted on 12/19/2012 6:13:52 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the state." - Cornelius Tacitus, Roman Senator)
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To: combat_boots

Then these same kinds of losers turn around and scream for gun bans.


9 posted on 12/19/2012 6:13:55 AM PST by skeeter
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To: combat_boots
India, the result of Gandhi, is 600 million people living in maximum poverty.

Actually, now that India has largely abandoned its socialist policies, its people are rapidly moving up from poverty.

Still a lot of poor people, but a lot fewer than under socialism.

10 posted on 12/19/2012 6:14:01 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: albie

No doubt the reason the speaker was launching into this invective. He surely realizes that his mob of slackers raised on conflict resolution classes at school and Kumbaya sing-alongs makes one p*ss poor Army for a Revolution.


11 posted on 12/19/2012 6:14:40 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: combat_boots

Substitute Tea Party for Occupy Movement and you would see a fire storm of reaction.


12 posted on 12/19/2012 6:14:55 AM PST by AU72
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To: pgkdan

I wish they’d jump if they’re feeling so froggie.


13 posted on 12/19/2012 6:16:13 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: sauropod

More amerikan studpeed ohs.

The only blood will be theirs splattered on the ground.


14 posted on 12/19/2012 6:17:17 AM PST by Gasshog (Welcome to the United States of Stupidos!)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I say - Bring it on and let’s get this over with. The Class War is coming, at the behest of Obama, at this point, the sooner it is fought and finished, the sooner we rebuild the America we all love.


15 posted on 12/19/2012 6:18:38 AM PST by Maryland Man (Responsibility and Integrity are the founding principles missing in DC.)
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To: combat_boots
The result of the French Revolution, besides the killing off a large segment of the population, was an empire headed by a dictator (Napoleon).

But I suppose OWS would be fine with a dictator, and a little population cleansing would be a fine bonus in their mind.

Of course, they probably assume it will be their dictator in charge when the dust finally clears, and most of those liquidated will be "others".

Apparently, the problem with all the bloody socialist revolutions that ended in dictatorships before wasn't bloody socialist revolutions - it was that the wrong people were in charge. This time, they'll get it right.
16 posted on 12/19/2012 6:19:33 AM PST by chrisser (Senseless legislation does nothing to solve senseless violence.)
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To: combat_boots

I’m thinking of the scene in the “Return of the King” where the guy known as the Mouth of Sauron is making boastful threats just before the last battle. He continues his ranting — right up to the point where Aragorn cuts off his head.


17 posted on 12/19/2012 6:20:09 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Republicans have made themselves useless, toothless, and clueless.)
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To: skeeter
Then these same kinds of losers turn around and scream for gun bans.

They don't want US to have guns.

18 posted on 12/19/2012 6:20:11 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the state." - Cornelius Tacitus, Roman Senator)
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To: combat_boots

If these drooling, knuckle dragging subhumans believe violence is necessary they’d best get their affairs in order.


19 posted on 12/19/2012 6:23:42 AM PST by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: combat_boots

When they start the revolution they wiil come anyone with money, not lots of money just more then them, history is full of examples of the underclass murdering all those who are successful and it is what they want to do here.

That is why they want to disarm us, that was the ropose of fast and furious, we stand on the edge of a major shift in AMerica, if we fail the world will live in darkness for a thousand years, your children and their children will be nothing more then slaves to the collective, much as we are now.


20 posted on 12/19/2012 6:28:06 AM PST by stockpirate (Mooshell Obama will run for POTUS in 2016.......)
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To: chrisser

So if the OWS crowd resorts to violence there will be less liberals to vote Rat and a number of mentally ill taken off the streets?

sounds like a winning formula to me.


21 posted on 12/19/2012 6:30:43 AM PST by Gasshog (Welcome to the United States of Stupidos!)
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To: combat_boots; LucyT; little jeremiah; azishot

Yeah, right.

The 0b0z0 “cultural revolution” being advocated with the bathhouse consent. If it were those dreadful white capitalists doing the talking, H0lder would have arrested them and charged with inciting violence.

As many of us believe, you start it, we’ll end it! Even the “nah, never happens here” crowd will have to defend their families, property and themselves.

The 0bama0 cultural revolution (read: violent transformation) will end up 180 deg from its Chinese predecessor.

Go ahead, make our beloved Republic’s day.


22 posted on 12/19/2012 6:30:43 AM PST by melancholy (Professor Alinsky, Enslavement Specialist, Ph.D. in L0w and H0lder)
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To: combat_boots

The “occupy” movement was violent, but the media painted over the violence.

One of the communist tactics is to start up civil unrest, hoping that it leads to a destabilization of the civil order, which provides an easy path for a conversion to full-fledged communism.


23 posted on 12/19/2012 6:31:37 AM PST by I want the USA back
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To: chrisser

“A month after the White House hosted the rapper Common, who glorifies violence on cops, the president opened his doors to one of Africa’s most evil dictators. Here’s Ali Bongo, the Gabonese president, who’s been accused of human rights violations and plundering billions of his country’s dollars.”

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2011/06/11/foxs-eric-bolling-obama-is-hosting-hoodlums-in/180497


24 posted on 12/19/2012 6:31:37 AM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: combat_boots

Everytime I get ticked off reading about these idiots, I watch one of my favorite videos.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZ05rWx1pig


25 posted on 12/19/2012 6:33:44 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools we will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: combat_boots

“Work like a Third World dictator and just put all these guys in jail.”
http://moonbattery.com/?p=22365


26 posted on 12/19/2012 6:35:22 AM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: combat_boots
So this is how the attack of the zombies starts...

27 posted on 12/19/2012 6:37:29 AM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: albie

This site was created by a Brooklyn native that got fed up with the complete conquering of his home area by the very types of the occupy movement.

http://diehipster.wordpress.com/

They just call in reinforcements.

Everyone, if you want to get a better understanding of liberals in 2012, read the first few pages. And then mourn for the loss of ‘America”. Because THIS is what has largely taken over the ‘hearts and minds’ of the modern American.


28 posted on 12/19/2012 6:38:37 AM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: chrisser
The result of the French Revolution, besides the killing off a large segment of the population, was an empire headed by a dictator (Napoleon).

Per Margaret thatcher, the French Revolution brought about two outcomes: piles of headless corpses, and a tyrant.

But I suppose OWS would be fine with a dictator...

Seems like a lot of our fellow citizens are crying out for a dictator.

29 posted on 12/19/2012 6:41:30 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: combat_boots
Occupy Movement Says ‘Violence Will Be Necessary to Achieve Our Goals’

Funny how these lefty groups all threaten violence and mayhem. You don't hear that from other groups. I guess the lefties believe the outlaw 0bama regime will protect them.

30 posted on 12/19/2012 6:41:42 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (America 2012 - What Would Our Forefathers Do?)
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To: Gasshog

Since when has death ever stopped them from voting?


31 posted on 12/19/2012 6:43:28 AM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

They should watch the final battle in Zulu. The bodies of the Zulus were stacked up like cords of wood.


32 posted on 12/19/2012 6:44:20 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: combat_boots

Nonsense. It’s the Tea Party that’s violent.

It’s hard to see how we can govern our country when the liberals try to keep us in a constant state of illusion.


33 posted on 12/19/2012 6:49:25 AM PST by popdonnelly
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To: combat_boots

And this is why we need to oppose gun control - ‘cause there are lots of folks who NEED killing.


34 posted on 12/19/2012 6:52:53 AM PST by Little Ray (Get back to work. Your urban masters need their EBTs refilled.)
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To: combat_boots

The Guy Fawkes mask showed up at the Clackmas Mall shooting on the same day it showed up starting the trashing of the AFP tent in Lansing. The Sandy Hook shooter was also reportedly wearing a mask but I haven’t seen any description of it.


35 posted on 12/19/2012 6:56:22 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

I know of a store that has it’s front window filled with violent video games and Guy Fawkes masks. Should be under police surveillance I reckon.


36 posted on 12/19/2012 6:59:28 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: cripplecreek
OWS 99% Guy Fawkes Mask Canvas BagTemporarily out of stock
37 posted on 12/19/2012 7:01:16 AM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: combat_boots

Remember the little-reported attempt of terrorism by the Occupy-Socialist-Democrat faction that attempted to blow-up that bridge in Ohio that was only stopped because they were complete idiots (surprise, right?).

We assume that when these idiots talk about violent overthrow and revolution that they mean to attack American society with firearms when in reality it’s been happening for quite some time by very different means.

For every spiked tree, arson at car dealerships or factories, attacks on labs, etc., they are trying to undermine our way of life by continuing to attack capitalism and job growth.


38 posted on 12/19/2012 7:02:38 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (Bathhouse Barry wants YOU to bend over for another four years)
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To: combat_boots

What does FAA mean in that first sign pictured, maybe I’m reading it wrong. “Death to capitalism FAA??” Federal Aviation Administration??


39 posted on 12/19/2012 7:03:36 AM PST by jughandle
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To: The Sons of Liberty

They’re having to show their hand re: violence because with all their provocation they haven’t been able to push us into making the first move though they never stop trying. Thing is, we know that we don’t, and they do, have the full support and backing of the media propaganda machine to spin and whitewash whatever they do, and twist and distort whatever we do. This mutual support of the left and the media feeds off each other, until the left is reaching the point that they really truly believe they could perpetrate violence and get away with it, because in more and more cases that’s exactly what’s happening.

I haven’t forgotten the horrendous things that ugly-in face and in soul-pos Sarah Bernhard said about having her “black brothers” gang-rape Sarah Palin if she ever showed her face in Brooklyn, I think it was. When they crossed that line and got away with it, that told me everything. “War On Women”? The left means it literally, and they’ve declared it, on all women who don’t toe the party line.


40 posted on 12/19/2012 7:04:03 AM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: combat_boots

What does FAA mean in that first sign pictured, maybe I’m reading it wrong. “Death to capitalism FAA??” Federal Aviation Administration??


41 posted on 12/19/2012 7:05:36 AM PST by jughandle
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To: jughandle

No idea


42 posted on 12/19/2012 7:06:11 AM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

And there was so much political incorrectness in that statement by Bernhard that if someone on the right had said it regarding a female on the left, the spluttering from the left would have soaked a mattress with them not knowing where to begin in their outrage, on so many levels. But it’s forgotten now by everyone, left and right, even as Limbaugh-even Limbagh-bowed the knee and apologised for calling a self-admitted slut, a slut.


43 posted on 12/19/2012 7:07:33 AM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: combat_boots

‘Violence Will Be Necessary to Achieve Our Goals’

Are they really that stupid?


44 posted on 12/19/2012 7:08:57 AM PST by Iron Munro (I MISS AMERICA !)
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To: combat_boots

This moron thinks he knows what happened in France and India, but he’s as clueless about them as a person who thinks Paul Revere rode to Fort Sumter in 1861.

Even if we bizarrely pretend that the executions during the Reign of Terror were somehow good stuff, the fact remains that the French Revolution was a failure that produced an unworkable government and resulted in a dictator calling himself an Emperor. In fact, the Emperor who caused Europe to burn with his unnecessary wars of conquest was a supporter of the Jacobin faction that birthed the Reign of Terror. Meanwhile, the republic that Ghandi helped establish is not only still in existence and stable 70 years on, for a time it was socialist in its outlook and was very Soviet friendly, using MiGs pretty much exclusively as its front line fighters, for instance.


45 posted on 12/19/2012 7:12:46 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Cigarettes are like squirrels: Perfectly harmless until you put one in your mouth and set it on fire)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

They know the media will protect them, and academia will teach other people’s children that people on the left in history who resorted to acts of violence were heroes, even as they use that double-think they’re so good at to make those on the right devils from hell for mere language-ie, it’s the right’s fault as “bullies” when a sodomite says “goodbye cruel world”. Even if that “bullying” consists of no more than standing by Biblical convictions. You can tell that they’re merely cynically using that as a weapon, because they never call out Muslims for actually calling for their deaths.

The left is a coalition of anyone who opposes white, male, Christian society. If that were ever done away with, I wonder who the crocodile would eat next.


46 posted on 12/19/2012 7:14:10 AM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Great website there, thanks for the link. His “Today’s Hipster Beating”s are a guilty pleasure.


47 posted on 12/19/2012 7:17:12 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: combat_boots
Bring it on... millions of us have been prepared for your eventual arrival. No mercy and no quarter... I suggest you leftists rethink your master plan.

LLS

48 posted on 12/19/2012 7:17:47 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (A child is born in Bethlehem KING of KINGS)
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To: Mr. Silverback
I don't know how anyone could think it was "good stuff" when even children were executed, or at best torn from their families, if they had any remaining. The people behind the execution hysteria were drunk on blood, and the populace came to be so.
49 posted on 12/19/2012 7:18:54 AM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: skeeter

“Then these same kinds of losers turn around and scream for gun bans.”

There is a correlation between civil disarmament and Communist revolutions.

If you were planning a violent takeover, wouldn’t you want to disarm your enemy first? Then you can use a mob armed with bats and pieces of rebar to achieve your goals.


50 posted on 12/19/2012 7:20:54 AM PST by DBrow
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