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On gun control, look to Biden
CNN ^ | Dec 19, 2012 | Rebecca Buckwalter-Poza,

Posted on 12/19/2012 6:18:06 AM PST by combat_boots

Editor's note: Rebecca Buckwalter-Poza served as deputy national press secretary of the Democratic National Committee during the 2008 election.

(CNN) -- President Obama's poignant speech at Sunday's interfaith vigil in Newtown, Connecticut, set the tone for our mourning. Now, America's path forward will be decided out of the spotlight. The question of whether the tragedy at Sandy Hook Elementary School will linger only in memory or be memorialized by an enduring shift in gun policy can only be answered by the legislature.

Incoming Judiciary Committee chair Sen. Diane Feinstein has announced she will introduce an enhanced assault weapons ban on the first day of the new Congress, but the fate of that legislation is in the hands of Vice President Joe Biden.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2a; banglist; guncontrol; rkba; secondamendment
Don't forget the ammo.
1 posted on 12/19/2012 6:18:13 AM PST by combat_boots
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To: combat_boots

“No politician could be better suited to the challenge of passing federal gun control legislation than Biden. Over the past four decades, Biden has been one of the most consistent and effective advocates of gun control and violence prevention legislation. In 1994, Biden shepherded the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act through the Senate, a near miracle six years in the making.”

How about that.


2 posted on 12/19/2012 6:19:02 AM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: combat_boots
Like Biden’s Middle Class Task Force?
3 posted on 12/19/2012 6:19:27 AM PST by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: combat_boots

Define “assault weapon”.


4 posted on 12/19/2012 6:22:01 AM PST by mkboyce
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“Rated F by the NRA, indicating a pro-gun control voting record.

Biden scores F by NRA on pro-gun rights policies
While widely recognized today as a major political force and as America’s foremost defender of Second Amendment rights, the National Rifle Association (NRA) has, since its inception, been the premier firearms education organization in the world. But our successes would not be possible without the tireless efforts and countless hours of service our nearly three million members have given to champion Second Amendment rights and support NRA programs.

The following ratings are based on lifetime voting records on gun issues and the results of a questionnaire sent to all Congressional candidates; the NRA assigned a letter grade (with A+ being the highest and F being the lowest).

Source: NRA website 02n-NRA on Dec 31, 2003”

Source: OnTheIssues


5 posted on 12/19/2012 6:22:25 AM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: combat_boots

Hillary Clinton (OnTheIssues) on Gun Control:

•Balance lawful gun ownership & keeping guns from criminals. (Apr 2008)
•Give local police access to federal gun tracking info. (Apr 2008)
•Let states & cities determine local gun laws. (Apr 2008)
•Against illegal guns, crack down on illegal gun dealers. (Jan 2008)
•Backed off a national licensing registration plan on guns. (Jan 2008)
•Get assault weapons & guns off the street. (Jul 2007)
•Background check system could prevent Virginia Tech massacre. (Apr 2007)
•FactCheck: VA Tech shooter not declared a danger to others. (Apr 2007)
•Congress’ failure at Littleton response inspired Senate run. (Nov 2003)
•Keep guns away from people who shouldn’t have them. (Sep 2000)
•Limit access to weapons; look for early warning signs. (Sep 2000)
•License and register all handgun sales. (Jun 2000)
•Tough gun control keeps guns out of wrong hands. (Jul 1999)
•Gun control protects our children. (Jul 1999)
•Don’t water down sensible gun control legislation. (Jul 1999)
•Lock up guns; store ammo separately. (Jun 1999)
•Ban kids’ unsupervised access to guns. (Jun 1999)
•Get weapons off the streets; zero tolerance for weapons. (Sep 1996)
•Voted NO on prohibiting lawsuits against gun manufacturers. (Jul 2005)
•Voted NO on banning lawsuits against gun manufacturers for gun violence. (Mar 2004)
•Prevent unauthorized firearm use with “smart gun” technology. (Aug 2000)


6 posted on 12/19/2012 6:24:57 AM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: combat_boots
Lawmakers are essentially being asked to consider an updated version of the 1994 assault weapons ban. On Sunday, Feinstein promised the legislation "will ban the sale, the transfer, the importation and the possession" of assault weapons and ban high-capacity magazines as well as "clips of more than ten bullets."

Anyone know where I can get these cool clips for my guns? All I can find are magazines...
7 posted on 12/19/2012 6:25:14 AM PST by TSgt (...voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury.)
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To: TSgt
legislation "will ban the sale, the transfer...

What I want to know is how you ban the "transfer" of something that is not registered in the first place, is it on the honor system?!? I understand you can ban the transfer of an automobile, because it has to be titled. But most of my guns were purchased from individual, cash transaction, no paperwork. Who's to say they were purchased before or after the ban on "transfers" and who could prove if I sold it after the ban when the transaction occured?

8 posted on 12/19/2012 6:32:52 AM PST by apillar
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To: combat_boots

Joe Biden’s motorcade has killed more people than my gun.


9 posted on 12/19/2012 6:39:06 AM PST by maine yankee (I got my Governor at 'Marden's')
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To: apillar
legislation "will ban the sale, the transfer...

"will ban the sale, the transfer, the importation and the possession"

You left off the most important part of the proposed legislation - POSSESSION. Possessing one - if caught - will put you on Big Sis's terrorist watch list. Good luck with that.
10 posted on 12/19/2012 6:41:46 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: combat_boots
Oh yeah. Just the guy to put in charge of gun control...

"This is a big fucking deal!" --Joe Biden, caught on an open mic congratulating President Barack Obama during the health care signing ceremony, Washington, D.C., March 23, 2010

"I wouldn't go anywhere in confined places now. … When one person sneezes it goes all the way through the aircraft. That's me. I would not be, at this point, if they had another way of transportation, suggesting they ride the subway." --Joe Biden, providing handy tips to protect against the swine flu and freaking us out, "Today Show" interview, April 30, 2009

"Look, John's last-minute economic plan does nothing to tackle the number-one job facing the middle class, and it happens to be, as Barack says, a three-letter word: jobs. J-O-B-S, jobs." --Joe Biden, Athens, Ohio, Oct. 15, 2008 (Source)

"When the stock market crashed, Franklin D. Roosevelt got on the television and didn't just talk about the, you know, the princes of greed. He said, 'Look, here's what happened." –Joe Biden, apparently unaware that FDR wasn't president when the stock market crashed in 1929 and that only experimental TV sets were in use at that time, interview with Katie Couric, Sept. 22, 2008 (Watch video clip)

"Stand up, Chuck, let 'em see ya." –-Joe Biden, to Missouri state Sen. Chuck Graham, who is in a wheelchair, Columbia, Missouri, Sept. 12, 2008 (Watch video clip)

http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/joebiden/a/bidenisms.htm

11 posted on 12/19/2012 6:43:33 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: mkboyce

My pencil, under the right circumstances, is an assault weapon.


12 posted on 12/19/2012 6:45:21 AM PST by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: combat_boots
This thread has just added to the FreeRepublic "bang list" (firearms interest list) by adding the keyword "banglist".

Any time a firearms-related thread is created on FreeRepublic, please be sure to add the "banglist" keyword to it so that interested FReepers don't miss it. Just a suggestion.

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13 posted on 12/19/2012 6:46:33 AM PST by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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To: combat_boots

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14 posted on 12/19/2012 6:47:30 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: combat_boots

Joe’s home state:(my current location)

http://www.newsworks.org/index.php/local//delaware/43254-parenting-magazine-calls-wilmington-qmost-dangerousq-city


15 posted on 12/19/2012 6:49:19 AM PST by EEGator
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To: combat_boots
It makes sense, given the Vice President's extensive experience tracking little varmints around the White House lawn.


16 posted on 12/19/2012 6:49:27 AM PST by COBOL2Java (kak-is-toc-ra-cy: Government by the least qualified or most unprincipled citizens. See: GOP-e)
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To: Cheerio
legislation "will ban the sale, the transfer...

"will ban the sale, the transfer, the importation and the possession"

You left off the most important part of the proposed legislation - POSSESSION. Possessing one - if caught - will put you on Big Sis's terrorist watch list. Good luck with that

It's my understanding that just like the 1994 ban "possession" means possession of an assault weapon obtained by one of the prohibited means "transfer" "sale" etc after the date of the ban. All existing assault weapons in private hands would be grandfathered in. I don't think even Feinstein and Obama are stupid enough to try and confiscate 25 million assault weapons in private hands (not that they wouldn't like too, but because it would make the feds looks just as ineffective and impotent as they do with the "war on drugs" and people might get the idea to ignore other laws)

17 posted on 12/19/2012 6:49:27 AM PST by apillar
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To: KeyLargo

Sounds almost heartening.

Hey Joe! is more of an imbecile than his telelprompter-depedent Kayak sidekick, Obumbles.

Hey Joe...happiness is a warm gun.


18 posted on 12/19/2012 6:50:22 AM PST by Gasshog (Welcome to the United States of Stupidos!)
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To: combat_boots
Photobucket God help us....
19 posted on 12/19/2012 6:51:58 AM PST by baddog 219
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To: combat_boots

Like putting Barney Fife in charge of gun control.


20 posted on 12/19/2012 6:53:13 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia (Be careful of believing something just because you want it to be true.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Like putting Barney Fife in charge of gun control.

21 posted on 12/19/2012 6:59:02 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: apillar
what happens when parts can be “printed” and no control can be had whatsoever?

where parts are as ubiquitous as a ball point pen...

it is crystal clear the only way to stop the violence is to train the population as a whole about the second amendment and self control and responsibility. (see individualism)

22 posted on 12/19/2012 7:08:11 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: combat_boots

Says it best.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ecwKeU1_IU


23 posted on 12/19/2012 7:10:08 AM PST by edcoil (It is not over until I win.)
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To: combat_boots

We have a Second Amendment to protect us against wannabe dictators like Obama. This justifies owning whatever arms are required to defend ourselves; do NOT give an inch on that point!


24 posted on 12/19/2012 7:13:04 AM PST by NRA1995 (CNN should be PNN (Propaganda, Never News))
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To: apillar

Surely you are not saying, “I have mine, or I’ll buy mine, before the ban so it doesn’t matter?”

What makes you think that the left will stop short of an outright ban on possession, without a grandfather clause if they win this battle?


25 posted on 12/19/2012 7:14:03 AM PST by Jgerald
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To: Jgerald
Surely you are not saying, “I have mine, or I’ll buy mine, before the ban so it doesn’t matter?” What makes you think that the left will stop short of an outright ban on possession, without a grandfather clause if they win this battle?

No (I think you might have started reading in the middle of a long conversation thread). I started by pointing out the the ban on the private "transfer" on so called assault weapons would be unenforceable, because there are no registration records kept for them so there would be no way to prove the transfer took place before or after the ban (unless you were stupid enough to pay by check or give a dated receipt).

"Cherrio" pointed out that more ominous word in the bill was the ban on "possession". That is when I responded that that I interpreted possession to be the same as the 1994 bill, which would grandfather in existing gun owners.

I certainly wasn't endorsing the ban and will fight it tooth and nail if it looks like it will become law. And then do my best to violate it once it does...civil disobedience and all that stuff the liberal love, except when it's used against them.

26 posted on 12/19/2012 7:25:12 AM PST by apillar
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To: combat_boots

“You never let a serious crisis go to waste. And what I mean by that it’s an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before.”
— Rahm Emanuel

Joe Biden’s Big F’n Ban.


27 posted on 12/19/2012 7:36:43 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: apillar

Compliance for turn in worked so well with the Canadian long gun database./sarc


28 posted on 12/19/2012 7:40:21 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: TurboZamboni
Compliance for turn in worked so well with the Canadian long gun database./sarc

Lol! You can say that again, I didn't think they had it in them. I would like to think that we are made of sterner stuff and would make our government a bigger laughing stock than the Canadians did theirs. But after the last election, who knows?

29 posted on 12/19/2012 7:44:52 AM PST by apillar
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To: combat_boots
Don't forget the ammo.

Just back on line from doing just that.
:)

30 posted on 12/19/2012 7:50:34 AM PST by grobdriver
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To: apillar

I see. That being said, enforceability wouldn’t be so difficult. If you ever had to use the firearm in anyway for self-defense, your possession of such a weapon would immediately become apparent.

For that matter, even if you were to take the firearm out and shoot it, you would be faced with a neighbor or some random person calling you in as a person with an evil banned gun.

Simply putting a ban in place would relegate these firearms to be hidden away, lest they be confiscated and/or subject the owner to criminal penalties. Contrary to internet bluster, (everyone is Rambo on the internet) the overwhelming majority of gun owners will not start a revolution or shoot government officials to prevent the enforcement of a ban.

Hence, a ban absolutely must be defeated, and it looks like people are already starting to cave on this due to the media hyperventilating.

The media has enormous power. Far more power than many conservatives will give it credit for. Look at what the media and the schools were able to do with homosexuality in such a short period of time.

Now they are on a full court press to go after gun rights. If we don’t not get out in front of this right now, we are only a step away from truly becoming like a socialist European state.


31 posted on 12/19/2012 8:35:01 AM PST by Jgerald
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To: Fishtalk

Precisely!


32 posted on 12/19/2012 10:07:19 AM PST by mkboyce
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To: combat_boots

Oh joy! Will be just like the Summer of Recovery. This is going nowhere folks, Barry just offloaded it to his do-nothing VP.


33 posted on 12/19/2012 10:09:55 AM PST by CityCenter (Compromise is the welcome mat to deception.)
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To: apillar
"Cherrio" pointed out that more ominous word in the bill was the ban on "possession". That is when I responded that that I interpreted possession to be the same as the 1994 bill, which would grandfather in existing gun owners.

I see your point. When I read it I immediately thought of FDR's confiscation of gold - the banks were ordered to seal all safety deposit boxes and an IRS agent had to be called in order to open it. So yes, you could still own it in the sealed safety deposit box, but it was essentially worthless unless you agreed to take what the government was offering. So your "private property ownership" was virtually worthless overnight.

IMO this WH buffoon will find a way to make all guns they don't like (??) become worthless - there is no way they can actually enforce a full-on confiscation, but there are many ways they can make it impossible for you to use them (ban ammo or tax it our of existence) and certainly stop you from transferring them. DON'T PUT ANYTHING PAST THIS MARXIST ADMIN THAT IS RIGHT SMACK DAB IN THE MIDDLE OF TRANSFORMATION. THIS IS ONLY ONE OF MANY CHANGES ROLLING DOWN HILL ON TOP OF US.

AMERICA YOU ARE GOING TO GET WHAT YOU VOTED FOR.
34 posted on 12/19/2012 11:14:17 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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