Skip to comments.Survivalists worry ‘preppers’ will be scapegoated for Newtown shooting
Posted on 12/19/2012 7:16:22 AM PST by Kartographer
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Preppers can do just that....prepare, and don’t blab about your preparations to every Tom, Dick and Harry.
Stockpile what you need for your family, and be quiet about your plans. It’s better to have these supplies and not need them, then to need them and not have them.
We had a major flood here a few years ago with houses washed away. We're prone to flooding so you'd think people would eventually figure out what needs to be done instead of standing around picking their noses. After it, we had a community meeting and even the old timers dropped their jaws when I said we'd done xyz before the water hit. How many brain cells does it take to get the boat out of the water or float it, bring everything up from the bottoms, pay attention to the weather, watch the only road out so that you get your family OUT before it's impassable. Hellooo, the tv gave a time table. Seriously, people, seriously? Sure, I helped them and brought stuff to my house to dry out and repaired things, etc. but next time they do nothing and wake up to water in their beds (true, more than one house) then why should I put myself out again and again (yeah, I would but still, grrr)? And the collective mentalies go downhill from there with just day to day stuff like they think their outdoor trash fires and campfires are somehow exempt from fire bans. I'd rather duke it out with the zombies alone than team up with these ninnies.
Back to the OP, yep, the minute the msm said the mother was a prepper, you knew they'd go straight to the spin cycle. You knew the minute hussein said we've had too many of these shootings that this was his excuse to go after the 2nd. The Mayans got the date wrong. TEOTWAWKI was election day 2008.
Telling the world that you have a large collection of arms and ammunition, and substantial stash of food, has never been a good idea.
Telling the world that you have a large collection of arms and ammunition, and a substantial stash of food, has never been a good idea.
I make a heck of a good stone soup.
Communities can survive better than individuals.
Yeah, sure I can survive dropped naked anywhere on the North America, but that kind of rough living really, really sucks. I've done the late 1800s mountain living for over a year, and I really like running water in the house. Heck, next year, I may just get hot running water.
Seems like it worked pretty well during the Cold War.
Preparedness has recently fallen out of favor. My grandmother wouldn't have thought of going into fall without a bunch of food put by for winter and early spring.
But the prepper died. She did not kill anyone.
If one was an effective evangelist for "prepping" and the S were to ever HTF, wouldn't you be better off?
I would rather live in a town, city, county, state, nation... with 15% who prepped than one which had 5% who prepped. That would just mean less takers to defend against.
More than that, anyone who dares to have food stored - no matter how much or little - extra water on hand, a generator, maybe some gold or cash source, for emergencies, like Sandy, or WTC, or whatever, will face the prospect of being termed a “prepper, survivalist, doomsdayer,” or whatever strikes the fancy of the moon-howling media.
And if such person is found to have cast a vote for Romney in 2012, watch out.
A man stole guns (which is illegal), shot his mother in the head four times (which is illegal), went to a school and shot his way in (which is illegal), killed children and adults (which is illegal), then shot himself in the head (which is suicide).
What to do to prevent it from happening again is just as simple as writing what happened. Either place an armed guard at every school, and/or allow teachers/administrators to obtain concealed carry permits. No more mass killings will happen.
There is nothing else to discuss the reams of paper/internet space/TV time, taken up by this happening is all excess screaming. Preppers in every state are not to blame so dont go there to blame them. Ah ha! Its video games! Ah ha! Its Hollywood. Ah ha! Its shooting ranges! Ah ha! If one stores food, one will shoot people! Ah ha! He was highly intelligent and they kill people! Ah ha! He didnt socialize well!
I repeat: A man stole guns, shot his way into a school, killed children and adults, then shot himself - HE DID IT, NO ONE ELSE.
Place an armed guard or concealed carry personnel in every school NO MORE MASS KILLINGS.
Yep, it’s pretty simple really. There should be no gun free zones, because they are just targets in search of a mass murder killer. Besides, gun free zones are a violation of the constitutional right to self defense. JMHO.
Leaves me out. I don't vote for liberals.
On the one hand, the government wants us to be prepared, on the other, the media demonizes those that prepare.
As the lefties would say, a little nuance is important there. Kartographer, Marcella, and others here and elsewhere have done a lot of good by posting anonymously about preparedness, and I imagine some people in NJ are glad they listened to those posts. JRandomFreeper and others live in areas where there is enough support that they can make themselves and others safer by openly advocating for personal responsibility. I live in an area where I am almost as concerned about many of my rich but parasitic neighbors as I am about zombies from the city 20 miles away. Whether one should talk about Fight Club is an individual decision - I don't talk.
Not all of them screaming will have voted for ‘Bama’ there are a few right here on FR who are ‘Hard Core’ prepper haters and they may not actual participate, but they will help in their own way I am SURE.
I’ve done the late 1800s mountain living for over a year, and I really like running water in the house. Heck, next year, I may just get hot running water.
LOL. Hot running water was too fancy down on Granny’s farm.
I like your attitude toward your neighbors. Reminds me of years gone by.
Now, I don’t talk about prepping, except on these threads, because I am just doing what I’ve always done, so what’s to talk about? If people know me, thay know I garden, and that I preserve some of the bounty.
I talk more about the high cost of food, the incredible shrinking packaging, and the best sales of the week at the local stores than I do prepping.
The message is there, if they read between the lines, I guess, but I’m not worried about it.
Right, I know there are a few nut cases (dumb nuts) here who accuse preppers of hoarding and they threaten they will get a gun and take a prepper’s food (they really ARE dumb nuts). I call that “suicide by prepper” ‘cause they know they are going to die if they try to take our preps. Those people are “thieves in waiting” and I don't know why they are on this forum. Thief, thief, is what they are.
Somewhere in the Bible and I'm not looking it up, it says something like if a person thinks of committing a sin, it has already happened in his/her heart. Every time a man posts he will take our food by force, I think of that scripture - that man is “thief in heart”.
I think someone signing up to be on this conservative forum, should have to take an oath something like this: “I BELIEVE IN GOD, COUNTRY, GUNS, AND PREPPING.” :O)
There are so many people out there who want information and I spent years researching everything connected to prepping, so it seemed a sin if I didn't give out that information in a way that would help them. On the other website where I post articles, so many were just starting out and those articles help them know how to start and put it together so they didn't lose their mind trying to do it.
So, I mainly write about process - how to do it, not how much one stores or where one stores it.
Maybe some people give out how much they have of this or that, but I don't as that would confuse people. Every person and family needs different items. I am just one person but complete families really have to store a lot and their requirements wouldn't work for me.
A family that is prepared would also know how to guard/protect their food and other supplies. I wouldn't be foolish enough to try to get their food - that is suicide by prepper as I've said before.
You speak about concern of your “rich but parasitic neighbors” and you don't talk of prepping around them. I am just naturally happy by myself and don't need a social life of “friends” or “neighbors” coming over because it interferes with my reading and writing and watching what I want on TV. I was reading when I was three and sat in a tree reading and didn't need company then, so it's a pleasant lifestyle for me.
The point being, only a few people know my name in our little group of houses, and there is only one lady I have conversation with occasionally and no one knows I am a prepper. They would be surprised to know I write about it. To them, I'm that widow who lives in “x” house and seldom comes outside.
My 5 lb. Yorkie figured out we were prepping when she saw large bags of her expensive dog food recently stored. She eats better than I do - Blue Buffalo for her has chicken, brown rice, carrots, sweet potatoes, blueberries, cranberries and additional vitamins. No, you can't take her place and sleep in her pink doggy bed and eat healthy doggie food.
I have a generator, a couple of weeks of food and water and firepower to protect them. I do this in the event of a natural disaster or any other short term disruption in normal proceedings.
I don't envision a cataclysmic breakdown of society as many preppers do. The powers that be have too much to lose in such a scenario.
Instead, I see a slow, several hundred year decent into the abyss of destruction. We will have dozens and dozens of 2008's over the next century or two. We will have lights, heat and food for a while longer. Although, we will certainly need to be more dependent on others to get them and they will become more scarce over that time period.
We no longer live in a growing, productive, enlightened, Christian inspired, first world western civilization. That ship has sailed. The only thing left to do is manage the destruction and surf the slow avalanche to the bottom of the mountain.
While hoarding months or years of food and practicing survival drills for a coming post apocalyptic world aren't harmful, I don't see them as particularly helpful and choose to spend my time doing other things.
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