Skip to comments.BFA brings facts to an extremely emotional nation following Connecticut killings
Posted on 12/19/2012 7:30:18 AM PST by marktwain
In the wake of the Auroro, CO "no-guns" theater shooting, Buckeye Firearms Association published an article entitled "How long is too long to wait to defend the Second Amendment?," in which we discussed the dilemma we face each time another deranged lunatic decides to murder as many people as they can in a "no-guns" zone. In the article, I outlined how the media and gun control extremists had begun trying to score political points within just hours after the event.
Each time there is another such attack, I explained, we are forced to weigh the dangers of responding too quickly against the dangers of waiting too long. While there was once a time when withholding comment out of respect for those affected was possible, given this media environment, we've reached a point where waiting several days to publish an article, as we did last summer and again this past week, is almost "too long," if we want to beat back the attacks.
Several years ago, we made the decision at Buckeye Firearms Association to respond when a response was necessary. Other pro-gun organizations and writers have also begun this practice. From discussing this issue with their "Facebook friends" to going on national television to speak truth to counter the deluge of anti-gun rights attacks, gun owners are no longer sitting back and letting their opponents rule the day in the media for days or weeks on end after such a terrible tragedy. That is what happened, to a large degree, in the aftermath of Columbine, and the effects are still felt to this day.
And so, several Buckeye Firearms Association leaders have been spending their time since the horrific events on Friday speaking with reporters, going on talk radio shows, seeking to get past the emotion in order to bring light to the facts about the challenges we face as a nation.
Following are some of the media articles or broadcasts that have included comments from Buckeye Firearms Association:
Columbus Dispatch - Guns remain a talking point with Ohio lawmakers
Jim Irvine, chairman of the Buckeye Firearms Association, said that attempts to prevent such mass killings will have to be comprehensive, including better examining mental health and teaching victims to fight back.
"Arming teachers is something we need to look at," he said, arguing that "we have a whole team of Secret Service agents protecting the president wherever he goes."
Dayton Daily News - Guns remain a talking point with Ohio lawmakers
Jim Irvine, chairman of the Buckeye Firearms Association, said preventing such mass killings will have to be comprehensive, including better examining mental health and teaching victims to fight back.
"Arming teachers is something we need to look at," he said, arguing that children deserve the same protections given the president, the speaker of the House and the governor. "Our kids are important enough, we can't afford to lose them," he said.
Fox News - Gun sales surge after Connecticut massacre
In southwest Ohio, from dawn to dusk a Cincinnati gun show had a line of 400 waiting to get in, said Joe Eaton of the Buckeye Firearms Association.
"Sales were through the roof on Saturday," said Eaton. "People were buying everything they could out of fear the president would try to ban certain guns and high-capacity magazines."
Gannett News Service (published in several Central Ohio newspapers) - Gun lobby: Train, arm teachers for defense
Having responsible adults with guns in schools should be part of a comprehensive effort to protect children from tragedies, according to the chairman of the Ohios gun lobby.
Jim Irvine, chairman of the Buckeye Firearms Association, on Monday said if it makes sense to use armed adults to protect dignitaries or trucks of money, it also makes sense to use them to protect children. Hiding and waiting for law enforcement to arrive is simply not effective when a gunman is on a killing spree.
"What you really need is one person who is on the inside to stop it," Irvine said. "Guns are a piece of the safety puzzle."
...Irvine stressed that the defense of schools should not simply be about guns. He said it is about changing the culture to enable regular people to respond in such difficult situations. Instead of teaching children that violence is always wrong, he said young adults should learn that in dire situations, violence may be needed.
Training also should be made available for schools. From getting a janitor to swing a wrench to having teachers throw a chair, Irvine said disrupting the assailant is critical to save lives.
While putting an armed guard in each school would be ideal, the cost would be prohibitive, Irvine said. A commercial pilot, Irvine said the federal government armed pilots after the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, and it makes sense to give educators every chance to survive an attack.
"We've got to teach our teachers to fight back," he said.
News Talk 610 WTVN (Columbus) "The John Corby Show
Buckeye Firearms Association Central Ohio Chair Linda Walker was a guest on The John Corby Show. Linda discussed the horrific events in Newtown, CT and what should be done about it. A podcast is available here.
News Talk ZB Auckland (New Zealand) "The Mike Hosking Breakfast Show"
Buckeye Firearms Association Chairman Jim Irvine was a guest on The Mike Hosking Breakfast Show. Jim discussed the horrific events in Newtown, CT and what should be done about it.
Toledo Blade - Ohio, Michigan gun bills in crosshairs
Guns are off limits in Ohios schools, and Ohio House Bill 495 on its way to Mr. Kasichs desk would not change that.
"There's nothing in (House Bill) 495 that has to do with schools or school zones, but I understand that the anti-gun people will use this," said Jim Irvine, chairman of the Buckeye Firearms Association. "It's their MO, connecting things that shouldn't be connected, to make emotional arguments.
"They will use this tragedy for political gain," he said. "It's not that they don't care about kids. That's not what Im saying... It's just that, for whatever reason, theyll get caught up in the emotion and try to use that, while we want to look at facts."
Gun rights advocates have argued that having a gun in the hands of a trained person in a school could stop a gunman and reduce the number of lost lives.
WBNS (CBS Columbus) - Kasich Will Not Delay Signing Of New Gun Bill
Linda Walker from the Buckeyes Firearms Association said Connecticut has some of the strictest gun laws in the country, and they failed to prevent Friday's shooting.
"Criminals don't pay attention to the laws, said Walker. "If the teacher or principal in Connecticut had been armed, we wouldn't be looking at 28 dead people today."
Walker advocates more guns in public places, like schools, would be a deterrent to violence.
Ohio Sen. Sherrod Brown disagrees and said there should be fewer guns on the streets, not more.
"I don't think the idea of more guns in school houses is a good thing. I think that's a bad thing," said Brown. "At least we need to ban assault weapons again as we did 15 years ago. There's just not a reason why people need an automatic or semiautomatic to spray bullets like that."
Brown said besides the assault weapons ban, a gun control bill could include a longer waiting period for gun applicants, a restriction on the number of guns that can be purchased per month, and a mandatory mental health background check.
"I think some of my friends, particularly on the other side of the aisle but in both parties who have gotten a lot of money from the National Rifle Association, need to stand up to them," added Brown.
But Walker said the debate comes down to citizens' second amendment rights. She is on the national board of the National Rifle Association, which has not yet made an official statement on the Connecticut shooting.
When asked if there's any room for compromise between gun advocates and opponents, she said, "No."
WCMH (NBC Columbus) - Gun Violence Debated After School Shooting
Linda Walker, Central Ohio Chairwoman for the Buckeye Firearms Association says the answer to gun violence is not gun control. Putting more restrictions on the law abiding is not going to stop all these mass murders, Walker said.
Walker believes more guns will actually result in less violence.
"If it comes down to arming our teachers and administrators - it will stop it in its tracks and we will not have one more mass murder in our schools," Walker said.
WLW 700 AM (Cincinnati) "The Mark Amazon Show"
Buckeye Firearms Association Southwest Ohio Region Leader Joe Eaton was a guest on The Mark Amazon Show to discuss the horrific events in Newtown, CT and what should be done about it.
WLW 700 AM (Cincinnati) "The Scott Sloan Show"
Buckeye Firearms Association Southwest Ohio Region Leader Joe Eaton was a guest on The Scott Sloan Show to discuss the horrific events in Newtown, CT and what should be done about it.
WKBN (CBS Youngstown) - Guns Sales Increase In Wake Of Conn. Shooting and WYFX (Fox Youngstown) - Guns Sales Increase In Wake Of Conn. Shooting
Local gun dealers said on Thursday they've seen a recent increase in gun sales.
...last week's tragic shooting involving children at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn. is making an impact on sales in addition to fueling the debate over gun rights.
"Those sorts of things usually spring people's attention that ultimately the individual is responsible for their own personal safety," said Buckeye Firearms Association spokesman Rick Kaleda.
We all know, from the recent election, how ABC-CBS-NBC-CNN-etc lied their asses off and/or knowingly delayed or sat on hot stories, all to benefit the regime.
Any bets they’re going to follow a script provided by the White House on the gun control issue?
They are already doing it.
They are following the Chavez approach to transforming a country into a totalitarian hell.
Obama has all the MSM in his pocket, or they have him in their pocket, hard to tell.
The Supreme Court appears neutralized, with Justice Robert's last minute switch on Obamacare.
The Congress is immobilized by Obama's ally Harry Reid in the Senate, leaving Obama to do almost anything by executive order. The Congress, which requires both houses to act, cannot stop him.
Times are bad, and will get worse before they get better. We have to keep on fighting. We can stop this or reverse it, but we have to fight, protest, write your congress critter, call radio shows, write letters to the editor, get the facts out. It is control of the information flow that will win or lose this. We have much more new media than we had in 1994. We can win, but we must fight to do so.
I believe that some in the leftist elite (Communist) are actually planning these massacres.Getting info from supporting psychiatrists, suicial patients are aided and abetted in murdering these innocent children. This then allows for another hue and cry to eliminate weapons. Defenseless population = easy pickins for takeover.
Those who seek to criminalize self-defense have the blood of the Sandy Hook massacre victims on them.
No, I do not think so. They have encouraged the policies that lead to them, but they will not even acknowledge that.
They do not have to plan them. They take advantage of events that occur, enabled by the MSM.
In a sane society, we would not be considering overthrowing the rule of law and ignoring the Constitution because of a single horrific event.
All of what we are seeing can only occur with a single (progressive) philosophy in control of the flow of most information to the society.
[[Times are bad, and will get worse before they get better.]]
Yup- Thanks America- Thanks a lot for putting our couintry and liberty at risk by reelecting dear leader for another 4 years of hell from which we may never recover- Those that voted him back in spiti n the faces of all those that fought and died for this country and her freedoms- and John Roberts proved what a traitor he is to this country and proved that he is not fit to hold his position on the supreme court for shirking his duty to protect we the people from a rogue government- The supreme court was suppsoed to be ouir last line of defense agaisnt a rogue government, but roberts, with one assinien statement washed the courts hands of their responsibility by declarign it’s not the court’s job to protect citizens agaisnt bad decisions (DESPITE the FACT that hte SC does so all the time)