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Obama taps Biden to craft new policies to curb gun violence in wake of shooting
Fox News ^ | 19 DEC 2012

Posted on 12/19/2012 9:24:04 AM PST by Old Sarge

WASHINGTON – President Obama will tap Vice President Biden to lead an administration-wide effort looking at gun control and other measures in the wake of the Connecticut school shooting last week.

The move, to be announced shortly before noon on Wednesday, marks the first concrete step by the White House toward possibly crafting new firearms restrictions. Aides told Fox News that the president is not expected to announce any major policy decisions on Wednesday. Rather, he will outline the process for pursuing changes.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; secondamendment
Joe Biden, THE GUN CZAR!


1 posted on 12/19/2012 9:24:08 AM PST by Old Sarge
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To: Old Sarge
A few days after the tragic Sandy Hook school murders, a young Marine in fatigues stationed himself at the front entrance of the Nashville elementary school his two children attend. Another parent heard him admit to a reporter that he was unarmed. The other parent commented that, even though the young Marine standing guard was not armed, it made him “feel better” to know he was there.

It’s often been observed that “perception is more important than reality”. The observation is often correct. It is never MORE CORRECT than for those we’ve come to call “liberals”. I prefer “statist” but “liberal” has morphed from its classic meaning to the other end of the spectrum so I’ll stay with it.

Since these folks operate almost entirely on EMOTION and FEELING, REALITY seldom allows FACTS to intrude upon the delusional worldview they have constructed and the comfort that provides them. It is that illogical, irrational and delusional mindset that prompts many of them to continue to quest after a Utopian society. The thought that such a society can and will never be achieved in a fallen world populated with failed sinners never penetrates whatever remains of their cognitive consciousness. It’s a DANGEROUS WORLD and, as the liberals continue to “define deviancy down”, it becomes more dangerous daily.

There is another, far more sinister, level of the “liberal” call for gun control.

It was Mencken who offered that “The urge to save humanity is most often a false front for the URGE TO RULE.” He clearly had been a student of the liberal politicians of his day. Were he alive today and able to observe the likes of Chuck Schumer, Diane Feinstein, Obama and the rest, he’d almost certainly have used far stronger language to frame his sage observation.

To conclude, dozens of studies reveal the FACTS concerning gun control. Those FACTS are that where firearms are widely and READILY available to law-abiding citizens, CRIME GOES DOWN! The liberals who willfully ignore the FACTUAL EVIDENCE and continue to call for gun control (i.e. the DISARMING of DECENT CITIZENS, thereby denying them the ability to exercise their God-given right to self-defense) are those about whom Mencken wrote: Their goal is NOT about preserving life. It is about the hell-bent pursuit of the impossible to achieve Utopian world where all are equal but some (that’d be THEM) are MORE equal than others (that’d be US).

There are many PRO-RTKABA videos on You Tube that your often busy lives don’t allow you to find on your own. Search there for “Gun Control”, watch them – and, more importantly – SHARE THEM with the folks in your orbit.

We’re in a fight. And losing will ultimately cost us much more than our right to our guns.

2 posted on 12/19/2012 9:27:04 AM PST by Dick Bachert (An ARMED society is a POLITE society!)
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To: Old Sarge

Is this because Biden did such a wonderful job supervising stimulus spending?


3 posted on 12/19/2012 9:27:40 AM PST by anoldafvet (One million people attended Obama's inauguration, at least 14 of them missed work)
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To: Old Sarge

via Drudge:

Vice President Joe Biden is expected to lead the White House task force to examine more gun control legislation, but back in 2008 he did everything he could to convince voters that his running mate supported the Second Amendment.

“I guarantee you Barack Obama ain’t taking my shotguns, so don’t buy that malarkey,” Biden said to voters during a campaign stop in Castlewood, Virginia. “Don’t buy that malarkey. They’re going to start peddling that to you.”

Biden informed the crowd that he was the proud owner of two guns.

“If he tries to fool with my Beretta, he’s got a problem,” Biden added, referring to Obama.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/biden-2008-if-obama-tries-to-fool-with-my-beretta-hes-got-a-problem/article/2516400#.UNH1zG_AexU


4 posted on 12/19/2012 9:29:52 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Old Sarge
Joe is gonna be one busy fella the next few months..


5 posted on 12/19/2012 9:30:54 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: Old Sarge

If you wrote this as a political novel and submitted it to the publishers, it would be rejected out-of-hand as being too fantastic. Were Michael Moore and Sarah Brady unavailable? So a man who normally doesn’t know which state he is in is going to confiscate our firearms? Will Tim Conway play him in the movie?


6 posted on 12/19/2012 9:31:29 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: Old Sarge
the president is not expected to announce any major policy decisions on Wednesday. Rather, he will outline the process for pursuing changes.

Because it takes a little time to write an EO that completely violates the Constitution yet is airtight against supreme court decisions

7 posted on 12/19/2012 9:31:32 AM PST by grobdriver
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To: Dick Bachert
You are right, but you have to ask yourself one thing.
Who is on our side?

It isn't the GOP, it isn't the police, it probably isn't the active military.

It isn't most women, they will ban everything because of perception.

The NRA appears to be getting ready to conceded something. I suspect they will allow some sort of ban, and maybe some confiscation. The GOP is so weak they are allowing themselves to be out maneuvered on the fiscal deal. After “the cliff” they will be vilified in the press non stop.

Who has the standing to actually be on our side?

8 posted on 12/19/2012 9:32:43 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Old Sarge
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9 posted on 12/19/2012 9:32:45 AM PST by baddog 219
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To: Old Sarge

Gee I wonder what his policies will be? Gun restrictions I can see for certain.


10 posted on 12/19/2012 9:35:48 AM PST by Republican1795.
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To: redgolum
Confiscation is impossible. If tried it will be "Bloody" ( Quoating a Democrat legislator in MI)!

Buy your ammo and mags NOW!

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11 posted on 12/19/2012 9:39:09 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Old Sarge

First will come national registration of all firearms. To be quickly followed by confiscation.

RIP America (1776 — 2013) Sad but true.


12 posted on 12/19/2012 9:41:04 AM PST by txnativegop (Fed up with zealots)
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To: redgolum

Going to a place where I can see them coming.....from a LOOOONG way off....


13 posted on 12/19/2012 9:45:13 AM PST by gimme1ibertee (When injustice becomes law, rebellion becomes duty.)
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To: Old Sarge

Good to see that he’s not serious about it.


14 posted on 12/19/2012 9:45:46 AM PST by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: txnativegop
First will come national registration of all firearms. To be quickly followed by confiscation lots of return fire by pissed off Patriots.

Fixed it for you.

Make no mistake, the gauntlet for CWII has just been thrown down by Zero.

15 posted on 12/19/2012 9:53:55 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: txnativegop; Kartographer; blam; The Duke; WakeUpAndVote; JRandomFreeper; Bride Of Old Sarge; ...

They don’t NEED to register the firearms themselves.

They only need to register the LEGAL OWNERS.

If you have a CCW, you’re on The List.
If you’ve ever purchased a weapon at a dealership, you’re on The List.
If you’re an NRA member, you’re on The List.
If you’re a veteran, you’re on The List.

Only legal guns need be confiscated. The gibmedats, the druggies, the thugs and the 47% will still have guns. The citizens won’t.

Soviet Russia in 1929. Germany in 1938. Hungary in 1956. And now America in 2012.
National gun grabs, followed by genocide.


16 posted on 12/19/2012 9:56:37 AM PST by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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To: Old Sarge

Obama gave the job to BIDEN?

*Whew*! that’s a relief. I thought he was going to do something serious


17 posted on 12/19/2012 9:57:33 AM PST by Mr. K (Sign: "Gun Free Zone- Criminals: This Means You!" <-- democrap thinking)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Will Tim Conway play him in the movie?”

Tim, using his Dorf character, will play Biden in the movie.


18 posted on 12/19/2012 10:00:35 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Old Sarge

BE CAREFUL! Back in 1968, the murder of Bobby Kennedy was an anti-gunner’s wet dream come true.

Bobby Kennedy was killed with a small American made .22 revolver, an Iver Johnson Cadet.

John Kennedy was killed in 1963 with a 5 shot bolt action military surplus rifle. Italian Carcano.

When the 1968 gun control act passed,(due to the passing out of huge amounts of cash to the states for “crime control”), it banned what the antis have been dreaming of for years.

A ban on 5 shot bolt action army surplus rifles.
A ban on small foreign pistols and revolvers.
A ban on military equipment. A gun shop in Tulsa was raided because they imported flintlock flints.

All of this did not ban the pistol used to kill Bobby, and it did nothing to ban foreign police surplus rifles which were the same as military rifles, just not issued to the army.

Congressmen from CT, Mass and NY had wanted a ban on military surplus to protect their local industries like COLT, S&W, Savage and Winchester.

Why should an American buy a $12.00 army rifle to hunt with when they should be buying a high dollar American made hunting rifle!

And why should they be buying a military Army surplus Enfield or Webley pistol when they should be buying a high dollar US made handgun?

The devil is in the details so be real careful with this as the antis today are far worse than the antis of the 1960s.


19 posted on 12/19/2012 10:01:40 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (REOPEN THE CLOSED MENTAL INSTITUTIONS! Damn the ACLU!)
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To: Old Sarge

Oh, yeah, the administration that has been caught smuggling guns to Mexico that wound up in the hands of drug dealers has LOTS of room to lecture US about guns!


20 posted on 12/19/2012 10:05:32 AM PST by NRA1995 (CNN should be PNN (Propaganda, Never News))
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Interesting look through the rear-view mirror.

I am trying to find the text of Feinswine’s AWB proposal. I’ll need my trifocals....


21 posted on 12/19/2012 10:06:42 AM PST by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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To: Old Sarge

Did I mention that the 1968 Gun Control Law was based on the 1938 Nazi Weapons Act of Nazi Germany.

Thomas J Dodd had a copy of it to copy from.


22 posted on 12/19/2012 10:09:21 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (REOPEN THE CLOSED MENTAL INSTITUTIONS! Damn the ACLU!)
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To: Old Sarge

Watch for the TSA to start showing up at schools now. It’s just the next step toward the police state.


23 posted on 12/19/2012 10:12:14 AM PST by Magnatron
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To: redgolum

[[The NRA appears to be getting ready to conceded something. I suspect they will allow some sort of ban, and maybe some confiscation]]

The folks supportign hte NRA through donatiosn and membership costs should emphatically state to t5he NRA that IF they cave in on this that the organization will lose htem as donars and members- We support hte NRA because they are suppsoed to protect our second amendment rights- NOT to cave in to the left on ANYTHING- period! IF the NRA fails to do the job we are supportign htem to do, then it’s high time they lsoe our support-


24 posted on 12/19/2012 10:16:15 AM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wanna hear somethign even more fantasical? I went ot hte health center a little whiekl ago, and htey asked me ‘Do you have any guns in the home?” and it caught me totally off guard, and I made the msitake of sayign yes- I should have said “With all due respect, I don’t htink that that is any of your business”

So now apparently they are trackign who own guns by making it a requirement for health officials to ask if htere are guns i nthe home


25 posted on 12/19/2012 10:19:20 AM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: Old Sarge

perhaps it’s time for law abiding citizens to becoem criminals- that way we’ll be protected by oru government- We can own anything we like, do anythign we like, and bleedign heart liberals will come running to our defense if they law ever breathes down our poor misguided necks- Hell, I might even becoem a citzen of mexico just so I can sneek across the border back into America and get me soem government funding and protections


26 posted on 12/19/2012 10:22:48 AM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: CottShop

A nurse at the V.A. asked me that recently, too. “No, of course not!” I answered.


27 posted on 12/19/2012 10:23:40 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: Old Sarge

The Gaffe Master is going after the Bushmaster.


28 posted on 12/19/2012 10:25:18 AM PST by Night Hides Not (The Tea Party was the earthquake, and Chick Fil A the tsunami...100's of aftershocks to come.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

you were smarter than me then- I have a health condition that exhausts me mentally- and makes it hard to think quickly- 10 years ago She woudl have never got away with sneaking that question into the questionaire- We did however just move, so next time they ask me I’ll be prepared by stating, No, We removed of all the guns that were in the house- which technically won’t be a lie as we did take all the guns out of our last hosue-


29 posted on 12/19/2012 10:30:02 AM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: CottShop

She was already asking things like “have you ever thought of harming yourself or others?” and that kind of stuff so I kind of saw it coming. I don’t understand these preppers and other people who go on television and show off their weapons, food supplies, tactics and etc...


30 posted on 12/19/2012 10:34:29 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: Night Hides Not

You won’t get them at Walmart - they’ve pulled all the Bushmasters from the shelves...


31 posted on 12/19/2012 10:38:19 AM PST by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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To: Old Sarge

If Jerky Joe is as thorough on his gun control assignment as he was on his assignment to track the Stimulus spending we will soon be able to purchase nuclear artillery rounds at the corner store.


32 posted on 12/19/2012 10:38:45 AM PST by Iron Munro (I MISS AMERICA !)
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To: Old Sarge

Obama just gave gun stocks (the financial kind) a boost.
Ruger has jumped 6% today.


33 posted on 12/19/2012 10:43:52 AM PST by Iron Munro (I MISS AMERICA !)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Kartographer; blam; The Duke; WakeUpAndVote; JRandomFreeper; Bride Of Old Sarge; ...
I don’t understand these preppers and other people who go on television and show off their weapons, food supplies, tactics and etc...

They are NOT preppers.

They are attention whores who are paid a $500 retainer by National Geographic (out of Obama's stash) for the chance to be seen on television and babble incoherently about their favorite tinfoil-hat conspiracy theory. And the wilder the better.

All for the express mission of making people look stupid and reinforce Leftist stereotypes.

They are not preppers. They are paid actors.

34 posted on 12/19/2012 10:45:08 AM PST by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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To: Old Sarge

But, but the problem was solved in 1968!

“Today we begin to disarm the criminal and the careless and the insane. All of our people who are deeply concerned in this country about law and order should hail this day.- Lyndon Johnson when he signed the 1968 GCA into law.


35 posted on 12/19/2012 10:49:49 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (REOPEN THE CLOSED MENTAL INSTITUTIONS! Damn the ACLU!)
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To: Old Sarge

You could not be more wrong.


36 posted on 12/19/2012 10:54:20 AM PST by ChocChipCookie
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To: Old Sarge

You could not be more wrong.


37 posted on 12/19/2012 10:54:32 AM PST by ChocChipCookie
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To: Old Sarge

Wonder if Biden will find all of this as funny as he found the Benghazi deaths.


38 posted on 12/19/2012 11:02:23 AM PST by RRismyhero (Mr. Obama - You can keep your change.)
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To: Old Sarge

Who better to sell idiocy to the idiots who reelected Obama than his pet idiot?


39 posted on 12/19/2012 11:13:32 AM PST by pallis
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To: txnativegop
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40 posted on 12/19/2012 12:13:58 PM PST by jimsin
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To: ChocChipCookie

My dear, they tried to solicit me. Not NatGeo, but another Leftist media outlet. The deal I quoted was the offer to me - but in return, they wanted pics of me, my family, my home’s interior and all my preps to include any weapons. I told them to keep their thirty pieces of silver.


41 posted on 12/19/2012 1:23:49 PM PST by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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