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Cops, detectives, FBI agents, U.S. soldiers tell Natural News they will not enforce gun confiscation
http://www.naturalnews.com ^ | December 19, 2012 | Mike Adams

Posted on 12/19/2012 1:22:01 PM PST by truthfinder9

In the wake of the recent Sandy Hook shooting, I reached out to my contacts in law enforcement, military and (retired) FBI over the last three days, asking three simple questions:

#1) Do you think Obama will use executive orders to demand nationwide gun confiscation?

#2) If such an order is given, will you or fellow members of your organization enforce it against the citizens? (And if so, how?)

#3) What is the solution to stopping future mass shootings?

I posed these questions to one ex-FBI agent, one retired Sheriff's deputy, two active duty city police detectives, one retired former police captain of a major U.S. city, two U.S. Army veterans and one USMC veteran, discharged several years ago after two tours in Afghanistan during which he sustained a severe personal injury. For obvious reasons, none of them wish to be identified by name, but their answers below speak to their credibility and authenticity.

Here are their answers.

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To: piroque
This could be precisely the action needed to unleash blue helmets across America and push for nationwide disarmament and military occupation.

That may work with Gen-X/Y/Z Obunga voters and their X-boxes, but there are millions of veterans that would be highly pissed off and motivated.

Any attempt at subjugation would get very nasty. I doubt the UN would have the stomach for the thresher they found themselves in.

21 posted on 12/19/2012 2:12:55 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They’re all hot to trot on semi-Automatics too.

These fools won’t stop until they’ve made every gun owner a sitting target for any two people, or even one that still has a semi-auto (anything).


22 posted on 12/19/2012 2:16:45 PM PST by DoughtyOne (How about a waiting period for putting crazys out on the streets, say NEVER!)
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To: truthfinder9

My gut feeling is it will be half of each. I think in the cities, the police will try to do it but in the rural and country - they will not turn against there neighbor. I also believe there will be multiple bloodbaths throughout the nation.


23 posted on 12/19/2012 2:17:31 PM PST by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: 3boysdad

These guys won’t, but the new “rainbow” Military chock full of fags will not hesitate.

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Yes. As the author states:
“All my contact in law enforcement are in Southern U.S. states. Opinions may be very different in Northern or Eastern cities such as Chicago, New York or New Jersey.”

I have no doubt that blue states would produce enough Red Guards to create massive turmoil and oppression.

The most convincing observation to me is that many would refuse to act due to simple attrition because this would be a suicide mission.

I also found it noteworthy that more would follow instructions to confiscate firearms if the order came from a Republican. The violation of the 2nd Amendment would be just as egregious, whether the oppressors wore blue armbands or red. It is not Obama that brought us DHS and TSA. We must stop accepting statist policies just because they come wrapped in conservative sounding BS.


24 posted on 12/19/2012 2:17:38 PM PST by Psalm 144 (Capitol to the districts: "May the odds be ever in your favor.")
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To: truthfinder9
One glaring omission frightens me to no end. Not one person cited the Constitution as the reason for not obeying a presidential order to confiscate weapons.

Reasons given for not confiscating were personal safety and not being trained. Hello...............

Some indicated they would participate if the order was given by a republican president. WTF.............

Even though the author of the article prides on his disclosure that confiscation of civilian weapons through presidential order by local LE or the military would not happen for a myriad of reasons, the smugness should disappear when reviewing the replies. Those replies, frankly scare the sh*t out of me!!!

Those replies tell me that too many of the same people would engage in weapons confiscation if only a few modifications were in place, such as better training, increased personal safety, perhaps additional hazard pay or just change the political party affiliation of the person giving the un-Constitutional order.

If nothing else, this article opened my eyes as to how close the USA is to its end as a constitutional representative republic

25 posted on 12/19/2012 2:18:38 PM PST by varon ( I'll take the Mafia over the Feds anytime)
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To: truthfinder9

Any real LEO will be purged from the service. That purge has laready begun. Eventually we’ll all be gone.


26 posted on 12/19/2012 2:23:50 PM PST by Ajnin (Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnocet!)
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To: truthfinder9

I would be very attentive of any reports of other NATO countries suddenly shipping off UN peacekeepers to an undisclosed training area. A few hundred this day, a few hundred the next day, each in cover as a businessperson, couple or tourist being stationed at kep strategic positions across the country.

take out the internet, take out the cellphones. Jam CB, shortwave, marine and handhelds. Take control of each states national Guard Armory. Then the power stations, fuel and water. make the people cold hungry and disconnected.

With nor organized cohesive resistance, well as they say, resistance is futile.

Best we form our own individual Constitutional Tea Party Militia, right now. Small groups, in cells, find alternative or piggyback comms, like morse code through a high voltage arc on railroad tracks.

Or designated repeater towers using line of sight lasers in morse code.


27 posted on 12/19/2012 2:24:46 PM PST by Eye of Unk (A Civil Cold War in America is here, its already been declared.)
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To: 7thson

The military and police, being subsegments of our society, are probably just as divided as civilians are.

Therefore, I refuse to trust anyone.


28 posted on 12/19/2012 2:29:30 PM PST by Califreak (11/6/12 The Day America Divided By Zero)
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To: truthfinder9

It won’t be confiscation. It will be stagnation. Throw up enough hindrances to private ownership and they’ll fade away. Stifle FFLs by slowing or stopping paperwork processing. Expand coverage of NFA taxation and registration. Sure you can own what you want...if you can find a seller and a viable price.


29 posted on 12/19/2012 2:30:22 PM PST by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: Califreak

The military and police, being subsegments of our society, are probably just as divided as civilians are.

Therefore, I refuse to trust anyone.

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Agreed. If we ever did have another shooting civil war, we would be a basket case like Spain in the 1930s. A half dozen factions on each side, and civil wars within each faction.


30 posted on 12/19/2012 2:33:03 PM PST by Psalm 144 (Capitol to the districts: "May the odds be ever in your favor.")
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To: RC one

Too bad for those younger soldiers there are millions of veterans who will oppose their idiocy.


31 posted on 12/19/2012 2:35:38 PM PST by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: doorgunner69

“Any attempt at subjugation would get very nasty. I doubt the UN would have the stomach for the thresher they found themselves in.”

They’d encounter a Sarajevo, 1992 in every city in America.


32 posted on 12/19/2012 2:37:40 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: Psalm 144

That’s how I picture it too.


33 posted on 12/19/2012 2:41:25 PM PST by Califreak (11/6/12 The Day America Divided By Zero)
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To: Psalm 144

I’m visualizing Northern Ireland of the last century.

Obama will certainly solve his unemployment problem...half tbe country will be given a badge and told to watch the other half.


34 posted on 12/19/2012 2:42:18 PM PST by fattigermaster
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To: Califreak; All

Be mindful that even “some” family members are not to be trusted...Especially if they know what you have...

I would look at your collection, see what you are willing to sell, make sure those family members see a few sales, and talk about some of your “items” (that you want to put into savings) are “sold” as well...

That way your necessities, if it comes to it, will not be widely known to most people...Have one or two cheap, throwdowns to relinquish if it comes to that...

Don’t go too overboard with stories about “I lost them in a boating accident, ot sold them to this guy named John Someone...” They will, by the time they get around to you, heard enough of that nonsense...

Better to have a substantive plan, and system in place to protect yourself now, than wait for any action they may start to take on us...

Just my opinion...


35 posted on 12/19/2012 2:45:25 PM PST by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: 3boysdad

“These guys won’t, but the new “rainbow” Military chock full of fags will not hesitate.”

Then it would be open season on the faggots. I think they may be smarter than that.


36 posted on 12/19/2012 2:47:57 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian (I hope we're ready to get a real candidate next time. C'mon GOP! <BCC><)
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To: truthfinder9

A left leaning co-worker today was trying to absolve liberalism of any blame in the shooting, and stated it was the prepper mother’s fault since she got the guns in private sales, therefore, they were “illegal” guns. I said “And you want to pass another law? You just proved laws don’t stop criminals from getting guns.”


37 posted on 12/19/2012 2:51:03 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: truthfinder9

New Orleans Begins Confiscating Firearms as Water Recedes

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/08/national/nationalspecial/08cnd-storm.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

NRA: The Untold Story of Gun Confiscation After Katrina

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-taU9d26wT4


38 posted on 12/19/2012 2:53:20 PM PST by lowbridge (Joe Biden: "Look, the Taliban per se is not our enemy.")
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To: GOPJ

“security Guards of the TSA would do it in a New York Minute...”
Well if they do, I hope they are issued personal BODY BAGS with
their full name stenciled on them to carry with them when they
come to confiscate mine.


39 posted on 12/19/2012 2:58:49 PM PST by Pompah
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To: truthfinder9

BS. They will if they are made to believe the order is lawful, and these are not the sharpest knives in the drawer.


40 posted on 12/19/2012 2:59:02 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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