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Obama Comes After The Guns
Breitbart.com ^ | 12-19-2012 | Ben Shapiro

Posted on 12/19/2012 1:52:19 PM PST by servo1969

Today, President Obama took to the podium to declare his unsurprising support for new, poorly-calibrated gun laws. His logic was simple: a horrific massacre occurred in Newtown, Connecticut at Sandy Hook Elementary, and we must try something. Anything. Well, not anything -- the same tried-and-true liberal gun control measures that have failed time and again.

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Obama explained what he wouldn’t really try: anything having to do with mental health (even though shooter Adam Lanza clearly suffered from mental health issues, as did the Gabby Giffords, Virginia Tech, and Aurora, Colorado shooters); anything having to do with the entertainment industry’s emphasis on violence; anything having to do with over-the-top violent video games:

We're going to need on making access to mental health at least as easy as access to a gun. We're going to need to look more closely at a culture that, all too often, glorifies guns and violence. And any actions we must take must begin inside the home and inside our hearts.

But the fact that this problem is complex, can no longer be an excuse for doing nothing.

In other words, forget all that nice talk about the culture and coping societally with mental illness. Let’s grab guns. Obama said he would set up a commission – which is Washington-speak for a group of people with whom Obama agrees already – to discuss how to reduce gun violence. To head that commission, Obama will appoint Vice President and village idiot Joe Biden, who did such a stellar job ensuring that stimulus funding wasn’t wasted.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: assaultweaponsban; banglist; guncontrol; sandy

1 posted on 12/19/2012 1:52:23 PM PST by servo1969
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To: servo1969

I just unsubscribed from Dick’s sporting goods email list and told them it was because their cave in on the 2nd amendment.


2 posted on 12/19/2012 1:53:13 PM PST by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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To: servo1969
But Obama didn’t have to wait for the commission to even form to push legislation he thinks will cure all America’s ills on situations like Sandy Hook:

The good news is there's already a growing consensus for us to build from. A majority of Americans support banning the sale of military-style assault weapons. A majority of Americans support banning the sale of high-capacity ammunition clips. A majority of Americans support laws requiring background checks before all gun purchases so that criminals can't take advantage of legal loopholes to buy a gun from somebody who won't take the responsibility of doing a background check at all.

I urge the new Congress to hold votes on these measures next year in a timely manner.

Obama relies on the majority now, but he’s happy to discard it when it doesn’t agree with him. As to the merits of his proposed legislation:

Obama also proposed confirming a new director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. That’s his fault. His 2012 pick was so bad that even the Democrat-controlled Senate would approve him.

Then Obama got into his rhetorical manipulation. Here’s Obama, sounding no different than any normal National Rifle Association member:

Obviously, across the country there are regional differences. There are differences between how people feel in urban areas and rural areas. And the fact is, the vast majority of gun owners in America are responsible. They buy their guns legally and they use them safely, whether for hunting or sports shooting, collection or protection.

But you know what? I am also betting that the majority - the vast majority of responsible law-abiding gun owners would be some of the first to say that we should be able to keep an irresponsible, law-breaking few from buying a weapon of war.

Actually, any rational person would want to be able to keep a weapon – any weapon, including a pea-shooter – out of the hands of an irresponsible, law-breaking few. The question, of course, is how to do that without infringing the rights of the law-abiding. Obama has yet to make any proposal along those lines.

Obama concluded:

If he we work harder to keep guns out of the hands of dangerous people there would be fewer atrocities like the ones in Newtown or any of the lesser known tragedies that visit small towns and big cities all across America every day.

Connecticut has worked hard at it with law after law. Sandy Hook happened. Chicago has more gun laws than virtually anywhere else in the nation – and every weekend is a mini-Sandy Hook, ignored by the media. We want to keep guns out of the hands of dangerous people. But the liberals’ idea of action hasn’t achieved that.

Obama came back to the notion of “trying.” It’s just another example of his intent being good, without regard for the actual consequences of the legislation he’s proposing. Here are a few pieces of legislation that would achieve something:

Obama has proposed none of these. He just wants to try what we tried before Columbine, and what has failed everywhere from California to Chicago, all the while ignoring the legal and societal measures truly necessary to stop the next Sandy Hook.

3 posted on 12/19/2012 1:54:05 PM PST by servo1969
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To: servo1969

This gun grabbing is all B.S.!


4 posted on 12/19/2012 1:56:02 PM PST by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: servo1969

If they fly according to routine Obama will pull a smoke and mirrors diversion, get everyone’s attention and fury centered on one thing while he comes up in the rear.

He will “try” to pen an Executive Order but at the same time will get a new taxation plan initiated, a 1000% tax on all designated weapons they decide up and also magazines.

You can still get that $750 AR but you will need a federally approve time limited stamp that will cost you $5,000. He will claim its the answer to the fiscal cliff, of which he created so as to use this plan.


5 posted on 12/19/2012 1:59:49 PM PST by Eye of Unk (A Civil Cold War in America is here, its already been declared.)
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To: servo1969
These stupid b@$t@rds always fail to realize that by announcing they're going to ban guns (an initiative which stands little to no chance in the Congress), they produce the EXACT OPPOSITE effect - guns FLY off the shelves and America is even more heavily armed. It happened under Clinton, and now it's happening (again) under 0bama.

I almost feel sorry for the gun factory workers right now.

6 posted on 12/19/2012 2:01:35 PM PST by Hardastarboard (Bringing children to America without immigration documents is child abuse. Let's end it.)
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To: servo1969

The man who gave guns to the Mexican drug cartels and the muslim terrorists wants to take guns away from innocent Americans.


7 posted on 12/19/2012 2:01:35 PM PST by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: dragonblustar; All

And from all those who told us that Obama was not interested in banning guns: Crickets.


8 posted on 12/19/2012 2:08:14 PM PST by marktwain
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To: Hardastarboard

I hope they work overtime.


9 posted on 12/19/2012 2:11:48 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: servo1969

The Joker needs to ‘splain how the gun laws in Chicago work out to make Chicago the City of Peace.


10 posted on 12/19/2012 2:12:50 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: jonrick46

This gun grabbing is all B.S.!

Yep. Thanks to the perp. He made it wasy for them to do what they were planning all along. But, I would think twice if I were Obama.


11 posted on 12/19/2012 2:13:05 PM PST by Bitsy
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To: servo1969

I have a proposed gun control measure that I hope we can all get behind.

“Aside from the Department of Defense, no agency, department or other subdivision of the federal government of the United States shall purchase, possess, issue, keep, store, distribute or otherwise use any weapon, of any class, that is not freely available to the individual citizens of the United States.”


12 posted on 12/19/2012 2:14:46 PM PST by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: dragonblustar
The man who gave guns to the Mexican drug cartels and the muslim terrorists wants to take guns away from innocent Americans.

This! And give the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt 20 F-16s too.
13 posted on 12/19/2012 2:18:22 PM PST by rockvillem
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To: dragonblustar
The man who gave guns to the Mexican drug cartels and the muslim terrorists wants to take guns away from innocent Americans.

Unfortunately 0bama is salivating over this latest shooting, and I hate to accuse anyone of being so cold and unfeeling, but this is the,"Never let a crisis go to waste." crowd. With this shooting he got accomplished exactly what he wanted with Fast & Furious. The whole object of that debacle was to get the American public so wound up about gun violence that they'd ask for everything short of outright repeal of the 2nd amendment.

14 posted on 12/19/2012 2:20:46 PM PST by YankeeReb
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To: Paladin2
The Joker needs to ‘splain how the gun laws in Chicago work out to make Chicago the City of Peace.

Hence the reason to make all the gun laws Federal Laws. This way we can't buy in 1 state and bring it to another. States rights is something the left despises.

15 posted on 12/19/2012 2:23:07 PM PST by YankeeReb
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To: Hardastarboard

My husband called me from our local gun store a little while ago. He said the place is a madhouse; people are walking in buying everything they can get their hands on Rifles are going fast, as are handguns.


16 posted on 12/19/2012 2:25:38 PM PST by SandyInSeattle (2 Corinthians 4:8)
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To: Hardastarboard
... (an initiative which stands little to no chance in the Congress)...

In the past? Yes.

Things are different this time.

Before the election, a Republican victory was looking like a sure thing. People here and in the media were throwing around little factoids like "no sitting president has ever been reelected when the unemployment rat was above 7.2" and others.

I warned at the time that past rules do not apply to Obama.

He will get exactly what he wants.

Decades of political correctness bludgeoning the American people will ensure that nobody will mount a serious stand against him.

17 posted on 12/19/2012 2:26:29 PM PST by Washi (Socialism is Slavery)
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To: outofsalt

No loss for me. I don’t buy at Dick’s. They are the most EXPENSIVE store in town by far for sporting goods.


18 posted on 12/19/2012 2:27:05 PM PST by RetiredArmy (1 Cor 15: 50-54 & 1 Thess 4: 13-17. That about covers it.)
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To: YankeeReb
Unfortunately 0bama is salivating over this latest shooting, and I hate to accuse anyone of being so cold and unfeeling, but this is the,"Never let a crisis go to waste." crowd. With this shooting he got accomplished exactly what he wanted with Fast & Furious. The whole object of that debacle was to get the American public so wound up about gun violence that they'd ask for everything short of outright repeal of the 2nd amendment.

I don't hate accusing Obama of being cold and unfeeling because that is exactly what he is, but you otherwise NAILED IT.
19 posted on 12/19/2012 2:28:17 PM PST by rockvillem
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To: servo1969

Wal-Mart Stores Sell Out Of Guns (in five States)
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-12-19/wal-mart-stores-sell-out-guns


20 posted on 12/19/2012 2:31:28 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: servo1969
Obama explained what he wouldn’t really try: anything having to do with mental health ...

Here's why...

Articles that explain how modern liberals suffer from a mental disorder.


21 posted on 12/19/2012 2:40:14 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: rockvillem

And don’t forget the 200 M-1 Abrams tanks.


22 posted on 12/19/2012 2:47:36 PM PST by newbolt
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To: servo1969

Bttt!


23 posted on 12/19/2012 3:04:03 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (My greatest fear is that when I'm gone my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them)
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To: servo1969
"Obama Comes After The Guns" and stops at the Republican House of Representatives and most likely the Senate, too (including some Democrats). Firearms (especially "tacticool" rifles) are extremely popular with many working class Democrats and most Republicans. The trend has been growing for at least a decade or so.

But let the elite constituents and politicians of more recent European descent (as differentiated from those of us descended from many generations of Americans) screech with crazy talk about the deeds of their sons and controlling Americans. Let's act like grownups and write our congressmen and state assembly members.


24 posted on 12/19/2012 3:36:39 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: servo1969

That Kenyan a-hole makes me REALLY angry.


25 posted on 12/19/2012 4:03:02 PM PST by Renegade
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To: outofsalt

Good idea!

Just unsubscribed and cut up card.

Thanks for the idea.


26 posted on 12/19/2012 4:06:20 PM PST by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: outofsalt

I just emailed Dick’s and told them to close my ScoreCard account.


27 posted on 12/19/2012 4:48:08 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: servo1969; All

The fact of the matter is that nobody can show me even a single instance of a school shooting in the 1800’s when:

-there were no background checks

-there were no age limits

-there were no waiting periods

-there were no arbitrary gun restrictions

-guns were much more easily accessible to kids

-gun safes practically did not even exist

-gun locks did not exist at all

-lever action guns in skilled hands can fire almost as fast as a semi auto AR

With all of this, still nobody can show me even a single instance of a school shooting during this time.

It’s the culture stupid......it ain’t the guns.

And the Second Amendment was never about duck hunting or target practice; it was about stopping tyranny from taking hold. The Founding Fathers were very clear on this and this can seen in their opinions (”it is the duty of every man to at all times be armed”-Thomas Jefferson) The Second Amendment was meant to be a checks and balances, so to speak, similar to the three branches of government.
It was precisely designed to act as a Sword of Damacles, which hangs over the head over every single politician.

“When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.”-Thomas Jefferson


28 posted on 12/19/2012 5:31:10 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: dragonblustar
"The man who gave guns to the Mexican drug cartels and the muslim terrorists wants to take guns away from innocent Americans."

Guns don't make muslim terrorists violent. YouTube videos do.

Please try to pay attention.

29 posted on 12/19/2012 5:37:11 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: YankeeReb
The states were supposed to be labs for experimentation.

I'd say that the data are IN wrt gun control in Chicago and Ill.

Total failure.

30 posted on 12/19/2012 6:54:48 PM PST by Paladin2
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