Posted on 12/20/2012 7:52:04 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Most oral contraceptives sometimes act as an abortifacient. This is not just a matter of Catholic Church discipline, but of natural law.
Seems like a common sense idea to me.
There is no reason whatsoever that the birth control cannot be sold over the counter.
Except that Obama wants women to get it for free.
There is nothing in BC pills that causes anything life-threatening on an immediate basis. Most womens go to a GYN annually, that’s good enough.
But the medicos....hey, when you offer this sort of thing OTC...THEN THEY LOSE APPOINTMENT MONEY!!
If Fluke and her sisters want to get angry, raise a ruckous over the silly rule that birth control pills require a prescription. That’s a joke.
We need more pubs coming out with this, make Americans stop and think.
” “The Archdiocese of New Orleans disagrees with Governor Jindal’s stance on this issue, as the use of birth control and contraceptives are against Catholic Church teaching,” “
Is this the same Catholic church whose parishioners gave Obama 50% of the vote?
You may not realize this, but this would be a wedge issue that would split the conservative coalition apart.
I agree with Jindal. No reason the birth control pill can’t be sold OTC. Of course, Obama would rather use it as a government freebie to buy votes.
Contraception is an entirely settled issue, so the Catholic church will just have to deal with the fact that this stuff is legal anyway.
No it wouldn't. The number of conservatives that want to ban contraception is tiny. Classifying the birth control pill as 'over the counter' is most certainly not going to split the conservative coalition.
Contraception is here to stay. This isn't a hotly debated issue like abortion. There is no chance at all that this nation is going to even consider restricting contraception. It is just not going to happen.
I understand what Jindahl is trying to do politically, but these drugs are not over-the-counter safe. (Actually they are not safe anyway over the long term, but that’s a different argument).
Women need a doctor’s supervision and advice in taking these drugs. There is not just one “pill”. There are hundreds of different concotions and several delivery methods. He seems to be sacrificing women’s safety to make a political point.
The only argument that he could make that would not do this is to say that ALL pharmaceuticals should be over-the-counter. That way both men and women would bear the same risks.
It shouldn't come to that.
The Pill prevents unwanted pregnancies & less of our tax money going to support them.
Those who oppose birth control of all kinds can mind their own business.
Pretty simple.
Yes and no. Regular Sunday Mass attendees - who would be considered real parishioners - did not give Obama anywhere 50% (sic) you talk about. The Bishops are correct on the issue.
Jindal needs a smackdown from his Bishop. I don't care if he is a "conservative". He is wrong and needs to be told firmly.
Yeah, this is a settled issue. These things aren't going away. I agree everyone should be on their own. THEY should pay for it, and THEY should be held responsible for any repercussions from it. The free people will have washed their hands of this liberal nightmare AS LONG AS there are no freebie social programs that drag our tax dollars into it. NO MORE FREEBIES.
As long as the user pays for it themselves - which means if they WANT it they'll have to find a way to pay for it (like getting a job, finding a liberal charity, or getting help from a family member).
I agree with Jindal. ONLY if all tax payer funding for these is totally removed. That way everyone has a choice, and no one is forced to live with it on their conscience.
But it’s a stupid issue. Why should conrtaceptives be a political issue, at all? It’s a medical and moral issue. It’s only political, now, because of Democrat stupidity, getting Government involved in healthcare. I think it’s a great issue the way it is, now, for conservatives to “demagogue”, since it highlights the idiocy of making medicine political.
What, does Jindal think he’ll get the “womyn’s” vote with this? Because he won’t.
Why do we want to out-stupid the Democrats? Over the counter means pretty much all medical (and parental) control is given up. B.C. is as safe as cough-drops? For 12-year-olds? I don’t believe it, and frankly, I think its effect on our society has been devastating. I suppose we’re leaving a pretty nice country for the Mohammadens or the hispanics, if they can keep it.
It will if taxpayers have to pay for it. More teens would be using the welfare card to buy it because it's so easy. Even those who aren't active now will become active once the pill is an over the counter freebie.
The tax payers will once again take a huge hit.
If all funding is cut (no welfare cards can be used to buy it), then I'm sure it wouldn't be a problem. Our hands would be clean.
If this part is left out and the faithful are forced to pay for the additional costs, THEN there will be a problem.
The recent election kind of shows that it is not currently a good issue for us. This sort of thing helped Obama win and win big with women. As long as it is a prescription covered by insurance, Obama can continue using the pill as a freebie to buy votes. The idea is if it goes 'over the counter' that it is no longer a prescription drug and insurance is out of the loop. Therefore no more freebies for Obama to give away.
Over the counter means pretty much all medical (and parental) control is given up. B.C. is as safe as cough-drops? For 12-year-olds? I don’t believe it, and frankly, I think its effect on our society has been devastating.
Sounds like you are just personally opposed to contraception - or at least the pill. I get your point about low birth rates of traditional Americans changing the face of the country, unfortunately there is no going back where things like the pill are concerned. Might as well make it 'over the counter' since every woman that wants it gets it anyway. OTC means Obama can't use it to buy votes.
Be careful, Pat, on this here forum, comments like the above can get you ridiculed if not outright tossed out. Though I must agree you are spot on in your analysis.
Then again, some will say that this how the African version of the GOP (RINOs) works and not the "real" GOP. More's the pity.
I agree. Tax dollars shouldn't be involved. If women want sex, they can buy their own pills. No one is forcing them, by law, to have it. It's their own free will. Taxpayers should also be allowed their free will not to pay for it.
It's political because others are financially enslaved by it. Washington controls the finances and the slaves, so it gets to decide what the slaves will labor for and what the slaves will not labor for.
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Lovaza is nothing but tripple strength fish oil, $100 for 30 tabs a month, high co-pay, TRICARE LIFE refused to cover it and rightly so. A bottle of triple strength fish oil with Omega -3's 90 tabs can be gotten for about $14 a bottle and most drug stores run BOGO sales and there are coupons in the Sunday paper or at Coupons.com. Or stores like Kroger's sends you a $2 off coupon.
Just as there are only a few factories that make bread, soups, canned veggies, milk, ice cream. Just a store label is slapped on some of them, and name brand on others..
I will concede that there might be some medical concerns and reservations about having the pill OTC, but I just don’t understand why anyone would be upset on moral grounds. Morally, I don’t see the difference between the pill and condoms. They are both used to help prevent pregnancies. The fact that condoms might, or might not, also reduce the spread of some STD’s is not the revelent issue. Anyone who takes issue with Jindal on moral grounds should also fight for the removal of condoms from the bathrooms of almost every bar, truck stop, and gas station in the country, where they are available to anyone with a couple of quarters in his pocket. I just don’t see the difference.
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