Skip to comments.OBAMA SETS JANUARY DEADLINE FOR GUN CONTROL PROPOSALS
Posted on 12/20/2012 9:05:27 AM PST by IbJensen
WASHINGTON (AP) - Spurred by a horrific elementary school shooting, President Barack Obama vowed to send Congress new policy proposals for reducing gun violence by January.
"This time, the words need to lead to action," Obama said Wednesday. He tasked Vice President Joe Biden with leading an administration-wide effort to create the new recommendations and pledged to push for their implementation without delay.
The president, who exerted little political capital on gun control despite a series of mass shootings in his first term, bristled at suggestions that he had been silent on the issue during his first four years in office. But he acknowledged that Friday's deadly shooting had been "a wake-up call for all of us."
Twenty children and six adults were killed when a man carrying a military-style rifle stormed Sandy Hook Elementary in Newtown, Conn., Friday morning.
The president also called on Congress Wednesday to reinstate an assault weapons ban that expired in 2004 and to pass legislation that would close the gun show "loophole," which allows people to purchase firearms from private dealers without a background check. Obama also said he wanted Congress to pursue the possibility of limiting high-capacity ammunition clips.
"The fact that this problem is complex can no longer be an excuse for doing nothing," Obama said. "The fact that we can't prevent every act of violence doesn't mean we can't steadily reduce the violence."
The president's announcement Wednesday underscores the urgency the White House sees in formulating a response to the Newtown shooting. The massacre has prompted several congressional gun rights supporters to consider new legislation to control firearms, and there is some concern that their willingness to engage could fade as the shock and sorrow over the Newtown shooting eases.
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Just another timely diversion from fiscal matterscontinued irresponsible government spendingspiraling debt headed towards the $20 trillion marktax some more and tax some morewheres all your concern for that Obama? Wheres your concern for the American people as a whole? And, as usual, you put somebody else in charge of coming up with a plan for gun control just as you do everything else because, as usual, you have no planyou have no ideayou have no clue.
But there was a very big bunch of idiots who voted this idiot back into office. And can you believe that Time Magazine voted Obama Person of the Year?? Doesnt take much to impress any more does it?
Never let a crisis go to waste...while you’re “other hand” is dismantling the country and its Constitution!
Citizen Control is alive and well.
Great. His administration coming clean about Fast and Furious. Excellent!
You better believe these proposals are already typed
up and waiting to be passed.
Between now and the first of the year, during the
holidays there is not enough TIME to write these up.
So they have been written up all along, just waiting
for the right opportunity.
Democrats are like a cancer.
I’m SURE that what joe biteme comes up with will end gun violence forever! It will put a big dent in the Constitution for sure.
What? You don’t believe the likes of Duncan and Sebelius can come up with something fair and unbiased?
Guns were banned at this public school. Many such mass murderers are cowards. They don't want to run into an armed victim. When armed responders are threatening to show, that is when the cowardly murderer takes his own life. Gun-control.
“We don’t need no steenking input.”
I agree. They’ve been written up for decades. It’s just that now they think they can get away with implementation.
Hope all is going good for you Tet68.
Obama going to Hawaii for 3 weeks and he expects his gun grab now will be ready to go when he gets back.
Obama wants to take action before the police investigation is even complete
“Assault rifle” is defined in Connecticut law. There was no assault rifle used.
Toughest Christmas in years, mom not doing well but
we make the best of it.
Merry Christmas to you and yours.-^^^^-
God bless us everyone.
BTW, how many people have been killed by Obomas own gun running? Maybe we should outlaw people like Oboma first, then talk.
I did some digging last night and found a few things. The FBI estimates that about 100 million US households have legal firearms and they also tracked about 350 deaths where a rifle was used. Semi-automatic rifles are some subset of that 350 number, but it is not explicitly tracked separately from bolt actions, pump actions or single shot rifles. So, the rate of preventable deaths from semi-automatic rifles that are not needed is no more than 0.00035%.
Then I went to the CDC stats and found that they estimate that about 8-10 million US households have swimming pools and they tracked about 3,500 drowning deaths, but they do not track specifically the subset of drownings that occurred in bath tubs, lakes, streams or swimming pools. So, the rate of preventable deaths from swimming pools that are not needed is no more than 0.035%.
Our governments own numbers are showing us that swimming pools are 1,000 times more dangerous than semi-automatic rifles!
If we are willing to accept the premise that the federal government should infringe on our liberty to address unnecessary deaths, then we would see much more value in banning swimming pools! In addition, we would cause harm to much fewer individuals and we dont even have to deal with a Constitutional issue. Heck, we all know that swimming pools are a luxury that no family needs!
We should only allow people to swim in government owned pools.
Or we could simply live with the consequences of individual liberty and understand that we can address evil doers whenever possible, but we will never be able to stop all evil.
After Sandy Hook, comedy then common sense now.
I’m very sorry to hear that, particularly the part about your mom.
God bless you too bud. I hope things look brighter for you in short order.
It is already written, has been for years. I’m just wondering which desk drawer is used to store it....It can’t be the same one where they used to keep Obamacare, there wouldn’t have been room!
Need some FReeper help on this one. This little gem is getting slipped into more and more coverage of this incident. Could SOMEONE PLEASE verify by article or report if this is true?
All accounts I've read and heard have stated that the shooter used 2 pistols exclusively and that the rifle was, in fact, in the car the shooter used to get to the scene.
This is turning into an enormous propaganda tool for the Communists in DC, and I believe the truth needs to set the record straight before they start with another AWB.
The good news is, the Current Occupant assigned the job to Joe Biden.
The bad news is, that any recommendations that Joe, while just being Joe (and thus the “solutions” will be inapplicable and inappropriate), shall come up with will be airily dismissed (like the Simpson-Bowles advice on the impending fiscal crisis) and some really unacceptable thing like demanding that ownership registration be turned over to the UN and it will be an international crime to own sidearms or ammunition. This would circumvent the Second Amendment altogether.
Criminals everywhere will rejoice.
magic negro can kiss my ass.
Other Joe Biden projects:
Agreement with Iraq for post-war occupation - Nothing!
Make sure stimulus money spent wisely - What a joke!
Its just a way for Obama to duck for cover. Oh, and he has a vacation in Hawaii, his adopted home, coming up. Can't have anything on his plate.
“Any more gun control and America will come unglued by real Americans.”
I doubt it. It didn’t happen when the government seized our physical beings, so why would it happen when they seize a piece of property?
Mark my words: something like this happen, the government will have created 100 million Henry Bowman's overnight. This will not stand.
"Authentic madman bitter clinger, brandishing a full outo dreaded black high powered man killer, squirting lead like a fire hose, swooped down on the defenseless schoolyard, rabidly drooling, stimulated by the power of the death machine in his hands to wantonly and indiscrimately slaughtering children, spewing 1200 bullets per minute........"
Last Monday after the school shooting happened, the Catholic school where my boys attend decided to have a little in-class assignment to sort of help them understand what had happened since a lot of them were asking questions (I had already discussed it with my boys over the weekend due to constant questioning from them).
My 9 year old's class was asked to write down some brief words about how the shooting made them feel. My son went on to write a short paragraph about how sad he was about all those kids dying and then he explained that he was also a little bit scared because the teacher and the principle at his school didn't have any guns to save them if a guy came to their school like that. I won't get into his assessment of their weak security methods, but it was a bit comical to say the least.
Of course, that's the shortened version, but his words almost exactly. He knows full well that guns aren't allowed inside the school because I am forced to disarm and lock my iron in the glove box every stinking time we go into the school... he also knows I never take the gun off unless I go to bed so we have had this discussion regarding guns not being allowed int he school.
The teacher sent the students home with their papers for us to read and discuss if we felt necessary... it was not a graded paper, but did have one teacher comment written on it in red ink; "interesting perspective" is all it said.
Lets get one of those petition thingys going on the WH website that says leave our guns alone.
That was incorrect early information. A shotgun was recovered from the car. All of the victims were killed by .223 rounds fired from the Bushmaster, according to the medical examiner.
What about marketing a new widget with your machinist skills? Maybe a pretty clamp for bracing hi-cap M-4 magazines together?...or a shiny paperweight for bureaucratic Obamacare forms?...or a scooter uni-body for durable electric transportation?...or a better rasp for sharpening our axes and machetes?
An 88 yr. old German relative who lived during the rise of the Third Reich said the other day that she didn’t see how the American people couldn’t see that Obama’s doing exactly like Hitler did during that time.
GOP needs to just say “Gun control is people control. Do you really feel safer with the government having all the guns?”
And the pistols that were supposedly used? I believe they cited a Glock 20 (10 mm) and a Sig Sauer 9mm?
Where the Hell do they get their information?
We don’t need any gun control peoposals.
We need to whip this president under control. Because he is outta control.
Am working on that. Now that I have a shop building
I am slowly getting my forge shop put back in operation.
Everything takes so much longer when you’re 67.
Got the 220 lines run for the iron worker, welder
and Hammer and outlets for the hand tools. Now have
to locate an install the forge hood, but my sis doesn’t
like me being on the roof so have to wait for my younger
brother to come help. Looking forward to being able to
work. I had to shut the shop down 12 years ago when I
lost my lease and couldn’t find a place to move to.
Then I went into industry until I retired and was able
to buy a house with a three car garage to make into
a forge shop.
Two Anvils = no waiting!
No, I am not an equine podiatrist.
My suggestion is that Obama sit down and STFU about guns.
Biden is there as a distraction. He’s not rally in charge. As many have said, this is a ready-made campaign with the script fully written.
Consider the 24/7 pounding of the story replete with anti-gun talking points, coming from all communications channels including, this time, sports included this time.
Can we etch the names of all the babies murdered via abortion on the medal?
I agree with your 88 year old German relative, and keep wondering the same thing. We seem to be sitting back and taking it. I can’t believe this is happening, right before our very eyes, and the sheeple are going along with being taken to slaughter.
First, there are already more than 20,000 gun control laws actively on the books today and none of them prevented this tragedy. Second, millions upon million of people in America own guns and 99.9999% of them have never and will never do anything like this.
So, lets lose the hysteria and analyze the facts - a PERSON did this, NOT a hunk of steel. In Portland, a PERSON killed two people in the mall, NOT a hunk of steel! In Denver, a PERSON shot up the theater, NOT a hunk of steel!!
NONE of these facts will matter to the gun-grabbing nanny-staters, because they focus solely on the gun and nothing else. So, what happens if ALL guns are outlawed and forcibly collected by the feds? Someone bent on committing mass murder may turn to knives, hatchets, chainsaws or machetes. So, we outlaw those. The next person to commit a heinous crime may use a bat, poison, poison gas or a semi-tractor. And the one after that may use a car, a pen or pencil, a rock, his hands . . . . . . so when do we blame the PERSON and NOT the inanimate weapon!???
The fact remains that until the left understands that murdering humans by ANY means including their favorite method, abortion, human life will be valueless and more copycats will come out to exercise their demented mass murder of innocent people.
All of that said, it occurs to me that the gun-grabbers are from the leftist school of complete control. What that means is that if 1 person commits a gun crime then, under the leftist theory of the “collective” and “groupthink”, they believe that ALL gun owners will commit mass murder unless they eliminate guns (good luck with that!). So, the calls for more gun control by the left after these incidents is twofold - eliminate the “balance of power” the Founding Fathers so carefully wove into the Constitution and gain total control over the people.
Another part that affects all of this is the fact that laws, whether gun laws, robbery laws, or whatever, are written solely to affect law-abiding citizens. People who commit crimes are called “outlaws” and criminals because they DON’T adhere to the laws created to control or stop their illegal activities.
So, should the left create additional gun control laws, will it prevent the next gun-related crime? Of course not. Laws only affect those of us who obey them. Those who disregard the law won’t be stopped from committing whatever crime they want to commit.
As a final note, Adam Lanza did not own the guns he used to murder all of the people at Sandy Hook Elementary. They were his mother’s guns and they were all legally purchased and registered. Which begs the question, what will any NEW gun control laws accomplish?
Its often been observed that perception is more important than reality. The observation is often correct. It is never MORE CORRECT than for those weve come to call liberals. I prefer statist but liberal has morphed from its classic meaning to the other end of the spectrum so Ill stay with it.
Since these folks operate almost entirely on EMOTION and FEELING, REALITY seldom allows FACTS to intrude upon the delusional worldview they have constructed and the comfort that provides them. It is that illogical, irrational and delusional mindset that prompts many of them to continue to quest after a Utopian society. The thought that such a society can and will never be achieved in a fallen world populated with failed sinners never penetrates whatever remains of their cognitive consciousness. Its a DANGEROUS WORLD and, as the liberals continue to define deviancy down, it becomes more dangerous daily.
There is another, far more sinister, level of the liberal call for gun control.
It was Mencken who offered that The urge to save humanity is most often a false front for the URGE TO RULE. He clearly had been a student of the liberal politicians of his day. Were he alive today and able to observe the likes of Chuck Schumer, Diane Feinstein, Obama and the rest, hed almost certainly have used far stronger language to frame his sage observation.
To conclude, dozens of studies reveal the FACTS concerning gun control. Those FACTS are that where firearms are widely and READILY available to law-abiding citizens, CRIME GOES DOWN! The liberals who willfully ignore the FACTUAL EVIDENCE and continue to call for gun control (i.e. the DISARMING of DECENT CITIZENS, thereby denying them the ability to exercise their God-given right to self-defense) are those about whom Mencken wrote: Their goal is NOT about preserving life. It is about the hell-bent pursuit of the impossible to achieve Utopian world where all are equal but some (thatd be THEM) are MORE equal than others (thatd be US).
There are many PRO-RTKABA videos on You Tube that your often busy lives dont allow you to find on your own. Search there for Gun Control, watch them and, more importantly SHARE THEM with the folks in your orbit.
Were in a fight. And losing will ultimately cost us much more than our right to our guns. Dick Bachert 12/19/2012
As for how they got it so wrong, you have to recognize that they're a quarter mile away, scrambling for every bit of information they can to fill hours of airtime with only a minute's worth of hard, confirmed information. And the guys who know are inside the school working, not BSing with the news crews over where the vans are parked. So they're talking to the guy who is telling them what he heard from the guy who overheard something when he ran something up to primary investigators a little while ago. Then it goes viral and when the police try to clarify, it becomes a conspiracy.