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Stand up for the Stanley Cup
National Post ^ | December 20, 2012 | Chris Selley

Posted on 12/20/2012 11:57:16 AM PST by Squawk 8888

If the 2012-2013 National Hockey League season is lost because owners and players can’t figure out a suitable way to split billions in revenue somewhat improbably derived from grown men on skates trying to shoot a rubber disc into a net, the Stanley Cup will almost certainly not be awarded for the second time in less than a decade. Realistically it is likely too late to undertake the process of negotiation, threats, litigation and planning that would see it willingly awarded to some other team — most logically the best amateur hockey team in Canada, which was Lord Stanley’s idea in the first place.

This is beyond frustrating. The Cup does not belong to the NHL; rather, the NHL awards it under the terms of a 1947 agreement with the Cup’s trustees. And a group of recreational hockey players won an important, explicit concession from the league during the last lockout: There is nothing preventing the trustees from awarding the Cup to a club of its choosing if the NHL decides not to award it to anyone.

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TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: chat; sports

1 posted on 12/20/2012 11:57:21 AM PST by Squawk 8888
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To: Clive; exg; Alberta's Child; albertabound; AntiKev; backhoe; Byron_the_Aussie; Cannoneer No. 4; ...
To all- please ping me to Canadian topics.

Canada Ping!


2 posted on 12/20/2012 11:59:01 AM PST by Squawk 8888 (True North- Strong Leader, Strong Dollar, Strong and Free!)
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To: Squawk 8888

As a die hard hockey fan, I am pretty disgusted with the whole lot of them, owners and players alike. They are doing their best, to make me a non hockey fan. Chumps.


3 posted on 12/20/2012 12:03:33 PM PST by Mark17 (California, where English is a foreign language)
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To: Squawk 8888

I love the comments by one of the NHL bigwigs that awarding the trophy to anyone other than an NHL team would be “demeaning”. There used to be a time when being a professional athlete was itself the demeaning thing. Amateur athletics bore an almost sacred mantle.


4 posted on 12/20/2012 12:05:42 PM PST by Arkansas Toothpick
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To: Mark17

Both groups have already managed to make a non-hockey fan. Going back to soccer.


5 posted on 12/20/2012 12:07:37 PM PST by askrenr (HOOAH! It's an Army thing.)
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To: askrenr

The Montreal Canadians won the Stanley Cup in 1993. Justin Beiber was born in March of 1994. No Canadian team has won since. Live long Justin. Live long.


6 posted on 12/20/2012 12:12:23 PM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Arkansas Toothpick

Hockey n: A game played on ice on the first two Mondays in February between Boston College, Boston University, Harvard and Northeastern.


7 posted on 12/20/2012 12:14:22 PM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Squawk 8888

Sadly the Johnstown Chiefs no longer exist. Awarding them the Stanley Cup would have been a great PR move for hockey.


8 posted on 12/20/2012 12:16:20 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: massgopguy

If you are near Pittsburgh next weekend there will be hockey played at the Consol Energy Center.

Ohio State, Miami U., Penn State and Robert Morris in an NCAA college hockey tournament Friday and Saturday.


9 posted on 12/20/2012 12:17:48 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Squawk 8888

“The simplest option might be a tournament, held in June, comprising the champions of Canada’s major junior, university and senior leagues.”

I think the national Post is a little bit provincial with this mindset. Lord Stanley’s cup long-ago ceased to be a purely Canadian matter. If the NHL was smart it would not appose a worldwide tournament to compete for the cup this year.

I say let the winner of the frozen four and the top Canadian and other foreign college teams, ,the Top minor-league team, the champion of a European Tournament, etc. meet for a playoff this spring to determine the winner of the Cup.


10 posted on 12/20/2012 12:19:26 PM PST by Controlling Legal Authority
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To: Squawk 8888

Just send it back to Stanley


11 posted on 12/20/2012 12:21:08 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To: Squawk 8888
If the 2012-2013 National Hockey League season is lost because owners and players can’t figure out a suitable way to split billions in revenue somewhat improbably derived from grown men on skates trying to shoot a rubber disc into a net,

As opposed to billions in revenue somewhat improbably derived from unnaturally large men trying to throw a ball through a hoop.

Snark much?

12 posted on 12/20/2012 12:33:59 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("Don't be afraid to see what you see." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: Squawk 8888

I guess they can award the cup to a minor/independent league team this year.


13 posted on 12/20/2012 12:39:16 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Mark17

My MN Wild actually had a promising lineup this year...sigh.


14 posted on 12/20/2012 12:49:14 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Our local college in Utica,NY, The Utica College Pioneers nearly sell out all their men's games at the Utica Auditorium here. About 4000 seats. $5 for parking and $5 for the game; students from ANY local school,$2. Good team and a great night out.
15 posted on 12/20/2012 1:17:10 PM PST by Wilum (Never loaded a nuke I didn't like)
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To: Mark17

I watch my kids U18 games. Just as much fun and free.


16 posted on 12/20/2012 1:37:25 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (You can't bring something to its knees that refuses to stand on its own)
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To: Wilum

Wow, 4000? And Utica is a D-III program.
Robert Morris is D-I but you can barely pack 1500
into their barn if they’re hanging off the rafters.


17 posted on 12/20/2012 1:37:25 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Wilum

My friends kid plays for them. He loves it there. My kid applied to Cortland. Hopefully I will get to see him play there in the next couple of years.


18 posted on 12/20/2012 1:40:29 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (You can't bring something to its knees that refuses to stand on its own)
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To: Squawk 8888
I remain a quetaine existentialist: Nothing matter since Nordiques go away.
19 posted on 12/20/2012 2:21:57 PM PST by golux
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To: golux

As a Texan, Hockey? Something played on ice? Only ice i’ve got is in my drink, preferably with bourbon.


20 posted on 12/20/2012 2:47:20 PM PST by rstrahan
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To: Squawk 8888

I’ve taken crap here for standing up for soccer (not the most exciting sport, but on the international level it is fun to watch - with no commericials), but I don’t think professional hockey is much better off than soccer in the US. When the NJ Devils would win the Stanley Cup they would literally parade around the parking lot of the arena; now that they are playing in Newark they could have a real parade route with no fans lining it (and the hubcaps would be stripped from their convertibles).

When the economy gets tough I’d imagine the first thing to go is tickets to sports events; certainly seems to be the case with the NY Giants and Jets (and the Giants are a real team).


21 posted on 12/20/2012 2:54:09 PM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Controlling Legal Authority

College hockey in Canada only exists as a club sport at best. Canadian colleges used to be very difficult to get into (perhaps they still are)and Canadian hockey players who want to go to college come to US and play. You’re probably thinking of the Junior Hockey Leagues where most pros begin. College sports are only big in the USA.


22 posted on 12/20/2012 2:56:00 PM PST by wrcase
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Utica has been a long time hockey town from the early 1950’s with the Clinton Comets of the old Eastern Hockey League. Utica has been starving for a hockey team. UC started playing at the Aud about 5 years ago and, every year it drew more and more people. It is D-III but you put those kids on ice with a crowd of at least 3000 every home game and you get some pretty good hockey. Incidentally the Aud was used for some of the scenes in Slap-Shot
23 posted on 12/20/2012 5:39:47 PM PST by Wilum (Never loaded a nuke I didn't like)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Hope to see you there.


24 posted on 12/20/2012 5:42:19 PM PST by Wilum (Never loaded a nuke I didn't like)
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To: Squawk 8888

Women’s Olympic hockey teams from Canada and the States play each other in best of 7 tournament. Winner gets Lord Stanley.


25 posted on 12/20/2012 9:38:29 PM PST by Dartman
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