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Letter from Mexican ambassador dampens hope for early release of Jon Hammar
Foxnews ^

Posted on 12/20/2012 12:47:13 PM PST by ConservativeMan55

Any hope that Jon Hammar, the Marine imprisoned in Mexico on a disputed gun charge, might be freed in time for Christmas has apparently been dashed by a terse letter a top Mexican diplomat sent to Hammar’s congresswoman.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: duplicate; marine; mexico

1 posted on 12/20/2012 12:47:18 PM PST by ConservativeMan55
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To: ConservativeMan55

2 posted on 12/20/2012 12:48:08 PM PST by ConservativeMan55
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To: ConservativeMan55

Note: Cancel future plans to visit Mexico.


3 posted on 12/20/2012 12:50:42 PM PST by windsorknot
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To: ConservativeMan55; stormer; Celtic Conservative

I guess he’s not getting out then...


4 posted on 12/20/2012 12:50:56 PM PST by ConservativeMan55
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To: windsorknot

I wouldn’t visit that hell hole anyway lol


5 posted on 12/20/2012 12:51:51 PM PST by ConservativeMan55
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To: windsorknot

Won’t even include future plans, been boycotting that toilet for years now,


6 posted on 12/20/2012 12:52:28 PM PST by tickedoffnow (No more...)
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To: ConservativeMan55

Mexico has been invading us for years...and costing us millions.

Why not return the favor and just get this thing over with?

The Mexican government has one good thing going for it...it’s less corrupt than is the Obamadork admiinistration.


7 posted on 12/20/2012 12:53:31 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: tickedoffnow

Yep and what are we going to do when Al-Queda starts setting up training camps there.. if they haven’t already?


8 posted on 12/20/2012 12:54:02 PM PST by ConservativeMan55
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To: Da Coyote

I agree


9 posted on 12/20/2012 12:54:35 PM PST by ConservativeMan55
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To: Da Coyote

Too bad Barack Obama is on the side of Al-Queda

http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/webster/110216


10 posted on 12/20/2012 12:56:02 PM PST by ConservativeMan55
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To: ConservativeMan55; Rapscallion; Amberdawn

ping!


11 posted on 12/20/2012 12:57:44 PM PST by ConservativeMan55
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To: ConservativeMan55
I guess Bill o' blowhard was wrong then (as he often is)

CC

12 posted on 12/20/2012 12:59:13 PM PST by Celtic Conservative
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To: ConservativeMan55

Mexico sucks. The only reason they are messing with him is because he’s an American. It happens all the time and the corruption goes from top to bottom.


13 posted on 12/20/2012 1:00:02 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Celtic Conservative

What was he wrong about?


14 posted on 12/20/2012 1:00:55 PM PST by ConservativeMan55
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To: ConservativeMan55
"Mexico has had very stringent gun-control laws in place for many years, and have reinforced their application as a result of the flow of weapons illicitly purchased in the U.S. and then trafficked into Mexico and into the hands of transnational criminal organizations..."

Mexico is pissed about Fast and Furious.

Obama could care less about Hammar and won't jump through Mexican hoops to get him released, because it would expose more Obama regime direct involvement in F&F.

Hammar's screwed because the Rats and the Rat MSM won't expose Obama to save any American.

15 posted on 12/20/2012 1:01:05 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: ConservativeMan55

no reason to believe there is not any now - is there?


16 posted on 12/20/2012 1:02:52 PM PST by WorkerbeeCitizen (we are so screwed - really)
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To: Navy Patriot

Obama doesn’t care this guy is in jail.. and according to his press secretary.. doesn’t even know about it.


17 posted on 12/20/2012 1:02:55 PM PST by ConservativeMan55
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen

Nope there’s not.


18 posted on 12/20/2012 1:03:40 PM PST by ConservativeMan55
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To: ConservativeMan55

bttt


19 posted on 12/20/2012 1:06:03 PM PST by ConservativeMan55
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To: ConservativeMan55

Time to call The A Team...


20 posted on 12/20/2012 1:15:28 PM PST by Crusher138 ("Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just")
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To: ConservativeMan55
In it, Sarukhan takes a thinly veiled swipe at the U.S., blaming it for gun proliferation south of the border.

"Mexico has had very stringent gun-control laws in place for many years, and have reinforced their application as a result of the flow of weapons illicitly purchased in the U.S. and then trafficked into Mexico and into the hands of Transnational criminal Organizations." - Arturo Sarukhan, Mexican ambassador to the U.S.

Gee thanks Eric Holder and Barack HUSSEIN Obama!

21 posted on 12/20/2012 1:17:01 PM PST by wesagain (The God (Elohim) of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is the One True GOD.)
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To: ConservativeMan55

Seal team 6 pick up the white courtesy phone please.


22 posted on 12/20/2012 1:23:27 PM PST by taillightchaser (When a dimorat says"The American people" the next words will be a lie.)
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To: ConservativeMan55

Maybe we should try another approach. Contact the Mexican ambassador and say “OK Mr. Mexican Ambassador, how much money will be needed and what are the bank account numbers at Banco de Mexico that will receive the funds?”


23 posted on 12/20/2012 1:44:32 PM PST by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: ConservativeMan55

I say we send in the military!


24 posted on 12/20/2012 1:47:10 PM PST by The Duke
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To: forgotten man

That is all they want - the traditional bribe.


25 posted on 12/20/2012 1:52:43 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: ConservativeMan55

I will be posting our own update on the Lance Corporal this evening.


26 posted on 12/20/2012 1:55:57 PM PST by Steve Newton (And the Wolves will learn what we have shown before-We love our sheep we dogs of war. Vaughn)
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To: ConservativeMan55
Obama doesn’t care this guy is in jail..

Stipulated

..and according to his press secretary.. doesn’t even know about it.

And since when was an Obama press secretary NOT a bald faced serial liar?

27 posted on 12/20/2012 2:07:26 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: TigersEye

Mexico sucks. The only reason they are messing with him is because he’s an American.


Because he is WHITE American they are messing with him. If his name was Spanish and he had some color to his skin...they would have sent him back home.

Mexico is one the most racist nations on the planet...and they push Racist and Nationalist ideology like Aztlan and Reconquista.


28 posted on 12/20/2012 2:13:23 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (Seems that the ones who understand little about the economy are economists)
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To: ConservativeMan55

We should just go get him. Probably would take five minutes.


29 posted on 12/20/2012 2:13:25 PM PST by Fledermaus (The Republic is Dead: Collapse the system. Let the Dems destroy the economy!)
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To: SeminoleCounty

Hispanic isn’t a race. Any color person can be Hispanic. And I’ve heard of a number of Hispanic Americans being imprisoned in Mexico and extorted.


30 posted on 12/20/2012 2:18:12 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: windsorknot

“Note: Cancel future plans to visit Mexico.”

Trust me, unless you go to one of their “resorts,” the place is a dump. You are probably safe “at the resort,” but the trip to the airport, that’s where you are at risk. The only thing wrong with Mexico is Mexicans! Beautiful place, wrong inhabitants.


31 posted on 12/20/2012 2:26:20 PM PST by vette6387
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To: ConservativeMan55

Close the boarder... every crossing and the trains...


32 posted on 12/20/2012 2:31:49 PM PST by El Laton Caliente (NRA Life Member & www.Gunsnet.net Moderator)
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To: ConservativeMan55
My initial thought is why in the hell is this kid being left alone in a Mexican prision with no support from the U.S since this past August......

With that being said, his photo raises a lot of red flags. Specifically, why would this kid be thrown in a typical Mexican prison then "chained" to his bunk bed if not for visual effect?

Second of all, there are no signs of physical abuse on him which is not consistent with people interned in Mexican prisons, especiall after 4 months.

Thirdly, his bodily hygiene seems to be well kept, especially his clean shaven face with the carefully sculped beard and his clean shaven chest and stomach.........

I really don't know what to think, I merely posted my observations and am not open to arguing any of them............

33 posted on 12/20/2012 2:35:14 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To: Army Air Corps

The best time to pay a bribe is during the first few minutes of an encounter with Mexican police. After, this long and as much press this story is getting, the price of a bribe to be paid has increased.

His trial is set for next month and until then he will have to sit,and let the wheels of Mexican justice turn.

At trial they will find him guilty and impose a fine.

Once the fine is paid he can come home.


34 posted on 12/20/2012 2:52:33 PM PST by OKRA2012
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To: forgotten man

Wow, it took 23 posts for anyone to hit the obvious jackpot answer.

You’ll get jailed for even one bullet - how did this dope figure he would get away with anything?

Sorry, my pity meter is on zero here. Play stupid games, win nasty prizes.


35 posted on 12/20/2012 3:48:34 PM PST by ASOC (What are you doing now that Mexico has become OUR Chechnya?)
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To: windsorknot
Note: Cancel future plans to visit Mexico.

You bet. I wouldn't step foot in that hellhole of a country.

36 posted on 12/20/2012 4:06:49 PM PST by OldPossum
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To: ConservativeMan55

Time to boycott all Made-In-Mexico products.

Spread the word.


37 posted on 12/20/2012 4:19:05 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: ConservativeMan55

I might have missed this somewhere — but why exactly isn’t the BP (? or Customs?) or whoever told him it was OK on the U.S. side accountable? How come they couldn’t explain that’s the way it happened? Or, the Mexicans just don’t care?

I can understand how a young man like this would get duped. We have the “wisdom” of our years (now that I’m in my 40s), but in our early 20s, it’s easier to make certain mistakes. IMO.


38 posted on 12/20/2012 4:30:30 PM PST by Borax Queen
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To: ASOC

No Marine even uses the word pity in their vocabulary. Here is a post from Facebook:

Story time:
I am a veteran of Afghanistan, and I am currently working as a substitute teacher. One day I was subbing in an English class for high school students who came to this country later in their lives, and were behind in their English skills. About 70% of them were Mexican. One Mexican student stated “You look like a killer.” Now, I have a lot of students tell me every day that I look military, or ask me if I was in the service, but no one has ever told me I looked like a killer before. That is something out of the ordinary.

Later, I talked to this same student, and found out that he was from the slums of Mexico City. I asked him what he thought of the drug cartels, and he got a crazy look in his eye, and said he would rather not talk about it. I respected that, and didn’t push the subject. You have to live hard to be hard, and this seventeen year old boy from a Mexico City slum had probably seen more hardship than most American civilians do their entire lives.

I respect the Mexican governments fight against the drug cartels. Mexico is in a tough situation, and they have to have tough laws in order to win. As someone who served in Afghanistan, I can honestly say, I would rather help the Mexican government in their war against the drug cartels then fight a war that is halfway around the world. At the same time, I cannot condone what has happened to Jon Hammar Jr., a fellow veteran who is innocent and unjustly imprisoned.

I think there is a bond between veterans that have served overseas that at times can run deeper then blood. I know that any city I travel to I can find a VFW or American Legion, and find friends and support. Sometimes I will be at a regular bar, and have a random veteran come up and start talking to me.

When I read the story of Jon Hammer for the first time my gut turned I knew I had to do something. It could have very easily been me in Jon’s place sitting in a Mexican prison. I also know how easy it can be to self-isolate one’s self after experiencing traumatic events, and I want Jon to know that there are people who care and understand.

When I pray to God, I pray for patience and wisdom because those are two things that have served me well. I am patiently waiting for both governments to do the right thing as I write to congressmen, inform others of what is going on, and push for everyone to do the same; however, there is a time when patience runs out and there are no other peaceful alternatives. “Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery?” Or in this case having a fellow American and Veteran, shackled to a bed in Mexico? I would gladly march into Mexico, and free Jon Hammar Jr. if I am left with no other alternatives, and the longer Jon Hammar sits in a prison in Mexico, the closer I come to traveling down to Brownsville, TX.


39 posted on 12/20/2012 4:36:28 PM PST by huldah1776
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