Skip to comments.Boehner: 'I Did My Part'
Posted on 12/20/2012 12:59:47 PM PST by Hojczyk
Speaker of the House John Boehner (R-Ohio) said 'I did my part in negotiations with President Barack Obama to avert the fiscal cliff by offering a proposal to raise taxes on millionaires.
Just hours before the House plans to vote on the Speakers Plan B, which will raise the marginal tax rate for people earning $1 million or more per year to 39.6 percent, Boehner said Republicans have done everything we can to avoid the fiscal cliff.
The fiscal cliff refers to the expiration of the Bush tax rates and the start of automatic spending cuts (sequestration) on Jan. 2, unless Congress and the White House act. The tax issues also include the child tax deduction; the end of the 10 percent bracket; and the Alternative Minimum Tax.
President Obama and Senate Democrats havent done much of anything, Boehner said during a Capitol Hill press conference today. Their Plan B is to slow walk us over the fiscal cliff.
For weeks the White House has said that if I moved on rates, that they would make substantial concessions on spending cuts and entitlement reform, Boehner said.
I did my part, he said. Theyve done nothing.
The presidents last offer of $1.3 trillion in new revenue [taxes] with only $850 billion worth of spending reductions fails to meet the test of balanced that he continues to call for.
Frankly, Boehner continued, Im convinced that the president is unwilling to stand up to his own party on the big issues that face our country. Time is running short.
The House will act today and itll be up to the Senate Democrats and the White House to act, he said.
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I’d mostly agree. He did what he could. I respect that he’s going to pass the bill — which isn’t great, but is better than it could’ve been — and then wash his hands of it.
Go as far as you’re willing, then take action and leave the ball in their court.
Why is this reported as a tax raise on those earning $1mm or more in 2013? Those people are going to be taxed at 39.6% if no bill is passed. And a lot more people will be taxed at that rate too if no bill is passed.
Boehner’s bill is to reduce taxes on everyone except those who earn $1mm or more. If nothing is done everyone’s taxes will be higher.
Yes you did, on behalf of the DC Party.
With this coming vote on Plan B, he is about to send the GOP
over the cliff, as well.
If the vote happens while Levin is on the air tonight, he has
said he will name names of the GOP members (conservatives)
who voted for this meaningless bill.
Well he certainly did... but not for the right thing.
The Senate will do nothing and the President will blame the “Congress” which the media will blame the Republicans in the House.
I’m not convinced that Boehner did anything exept to mimic the Pelosi plan from months ago.
And now even that is not enough for Nobama?
(bleep) this. We are screwed.
Can’t believe I am typing this:
“Good for Boehner.”
The president has consistently said he wants to raise taxes on millionaires and billionaires. Well, here you go.
The press is so pathetic not to call the democrats out for opposing the House bill.
He has certainly been more than accomodating.. damned if he does and damned if he don’t..
There is no victory to be won in this latest horror of governance risking it all to prevail and use it for political gains. If the party agenda is more important than the country, then we are screwed.
I don't think it matters, I think Boehner could give Obama 100% of what he's asked for and Obama would just threaten a veto and move the goalposts. I think Obama WANTS to go over the so called fiscal cliff, because he gets two things democrats have been dreaming of for a decade, massive defense cuts and across the board tax increases when the bush cuts expire (don't believe for a second that Obama really cares about the middle class, revenue is revenue, he just wants Republican's to get the blame). Of course there IS that little provision about the billion in social spending cuts. But Obama knows all he has to do is drag out a parade of children who's school lunches will be cut, and senior citizens paying more for prescriptions and the Republican's will put there tail between their legs and reverse that part.
And now that you’ve done your part, Speaker Boehner, how about embarking on a three month vacation. Check back in at the end of March and see if the Dems ever gave you the $100 billion in spending cuts they promised when you raised the debt ceiling by $2.5 trillion. We were assured at the time that the $2.5 trillion would last through March, so there is really no pressing need at all for you to stay here. Do America a favor - check out for the next three months. It’s what Obama has done for the last four years. Get with the program. Do nothing.
The Republicans are going to lose the public relations battle over this. Boehner and the GOP will be blamed for the failure of the parties to reach a deal because Boehner is trying to be seen “cooperating” with President Obama.
The more time Boehner wastes trying to “cooperate” with President Obama, the worse the public relations outcome will be in 2013.
The House should simply pass a balance budget (one that doesn’t raise taxes) and let the government shut down if necessary until Senator Reid and President Obama surrender.
The GOP has ZERO CREDIBILITY on spending, deficits, and low taxes. Democrats have better approval ratings in all of these areas!
The GOP continues to sandbag genuine conservatives and to foist “candidates who can win the moderates” upon us.
It is high time to SMASH the GOP and send it to the ash heap of history.
This is a good start but Boner needs some drama school. Quick tips:
1) Show distress, and emotion
2) plead with O to stop playing with peoples lives on taxes
3) Talk about how it will hurt ‘the children’
4) Explain how Democrats wont take YES for an answer
5) Splane how they are holding our taxes hostage for a even better deal then they demanded on raising taxes (punishing job creators).
6) Send House members to drama school crash course for their TV appearances play up 1 to 5 above
#7 is the most important:
Tell certain clueless Republicans to STOP CALLING FOR HOUSE REPUBLICANS TO DRIVE US OFF THE CLIFF!
Mega Dittoes on “Good for Boehner”. You (and he) deserve it.
When everyone’s taxes go up, the House GOP can say “Here is our bill that would have prevented it. Where is the Senate bill?” The Senate has made no tangible attempt to prevent the tax increase.
If the nation is as stupid as they were in November, then the GOP may still be blamed by a majority of the voters. However, once the reality of smaller paychecks hit everyone, I think those voters just might get somewhat more focused on the matter.
Face it folks, taxes are going up sooner or later anyway. It’s a big sheiss sandwich and we’re all gonna take a bite.
I think FReepers are gonna be generally pissed off about whatever happens since we hold only ONE card and Boehner won’t play it...the debt ceiling.
I’m ready to go over the cliff. It’s the only way ANYTHING gets cut.
You are correct. There is only one thing in all of this that Obama wants - and that is to raise the debt ceiling. So my for Boehner and the GOP House is to not give it to him. Let him do anything he wants, but DO NOT RAISE THE DEBT CEILING. Call Obama's bluff. If he complains, then remind him that the last increase was supposed to carry him through the end of March. Tell him he has three months to come up with the $100 billion in spending cuts he promised.
Remember the shell game is in the terminology.
“Reduction in spending” cuts nothing. It reduces the amount of increased spending.
Paul Ryan’s budget actually cut nothing, but at least it was a threat to entitlement spending.
What do you mean, he won't play it? Give him a blanking break. He's been trying to get something constructive on spending out of Obama and the Dems (yeah, I know: fat chance) but that's where he'll use the debt ceiling and that's where he'll have leverage.
All things considered, John Boehner has played this about as well as one could ever want. He had a weak hand, but he's found a way to regain some leverage. Vote for Plan B and go home for the holidays.
Democrats (All the time): “Tax the rich!”
Republicans (Plan B): “Tax the rich!”
What’s the difference?
So the Senate is adjourning.
The House will remain tomorrow after tonite's vote and work on the sequester.
So we have the days ahead to say "we're working still on this and the Senate is vacationing."
Good strategy IMO.
I like the plan...maybe you didn’t get that from what I said. We do what WE think is right and go home and let them play their little media political game all by themselves.
I just think that we should be playing hardball. You f@#k us on this cliff deal and we f#$k you for the next two years on the debt ceiling. NO RAISES.
that’s exactly right, and it’s why I am puzzled why so many Republicans seem to think it would be smart to walk away from the deal the White House offered Boehner, which frankly was very close to the deal Boehner offered the White House?
If we go over the cliff because the Republicans say, “Hell No, we won’t go!” then really what have we accomplished?? Isn’t a compromise with Obama better than what current law has in it, which is a reversion to 2000??
It would be a better idea to define what "the cliff" actually is. The only cliff here is the same cliff we saw 16 months ago. The cliff has nothing to do with tax rates or spending cuts. The only "cliff" here is in regard to continuing to print up more money to fund government. If Boehner would simply announce that it is time to cut up the government credit card, he would have the support of the American people. Instead, he allows Obama to define it as something that it is not.
This whole charade is cover for the biggest tax increase of all - the devaluation of the currency. Give Obama anything else, but DO NOT give him the ability to expand our money supply by another $5 trillion.
Excuse me, this hating Republicans is out of control here on FR. Why don’t you wish for destruction of the Democrat party? These are the true evil ones.
What are you talking about?
What do you think is the best approach to this situation? Ceasing negotiations and getting blamed for an utterly massive tax hike?
I agree. Bonehead has been so out front and so overexposed, that
the Public will blame him and the GOP, because he HAS BECOME
the face of the cliff. And his desperation has showed.
The less vulnerable (millionaires, billionaires) are clever enough to shield themselves. They're smarter...which is why they're where they are.
The mid-level businesses would be protected by this bill and as a result there will far less people being fired.
And who the frick is Levin?
He and the rest of the Rinos did their part in throwing the game.
It is a meaningless vote that puts his members in a bad position of voting for a Tax increase.
Do what Dirty Harry just did. Send his members home.
The Senate passed a bill months ago!
“Tell certain clueless Republicans to STOP CALLING FOR HOUSE REPUBLICANS TO DRIVE US OFF THE CLIFF!”
Better hold one cause that’s exactly where we’re going.
I called and wrote my congressman today to tell him not to vote for raising taxes.
The better course is to let Obama own it.
Amen, amen, and amen!
Voting for a tax increase?? Taxes are going to go up 4 times as much if they DON’T vote for it.
Anything that stops a compromise with the White House is a vote for the biggest tax increase of all!!
We rolled the dice in 2011 that we would win the White House in 2012 and we’d be able to craft our own solution to the fiscal cliff. Well, we lost. So now you want to murder the US economy with massive tax hikes in order to say you didn’t vote for a much smaller one? Are you stupid?>>
Mark Levin, the best talk show host in radio.
Served in the Reagan Administration under Ed Meese at the
Justice department. If u would like to listen, tune-in
to WABC Radio from 6-9 PM EDT. You might learn a few things.
BTW, if the vote happens tonight while he is on air, he said
he will name names of conservatives who voted for this Charade.
Boehner’s mistake all along has been to negotiate with the president. The president, i.e. the executive, should play no part in the crafting of legislation (other than persuading individual members). The president’s only role in legislation is to sign a bill or reject a bill with his objections. If the president wants to legislate, let him go back to the senate.
Boehner is finally doing the right thing in having the actually vote on something. It is not a “political stunt” or an “exercise in futility.” It is their governmental function. Whether the president vetoes it should it get to him or if the senate fails to take up the bill is not the consern of the House. Once the House passes a bill, that is the end of it for them unless it comes back to them from either the senate or the president. Apparantly neither will be happening so Boehner is doing his part. Whether the bill is any good is a different question.
Regular legislative order is the key to liberty. No surprise that Obama and the democrats are working to undermine it.
The Senate is coming back on the 27th on the expectation that there is a deal by then that does not destroy the US economy. I hope they’re right.
Reid has already said he wouldn’t being this bill up. Unless Hussein changes his mind and tells Reid to bring it up, it’s dead.
I’m not saying that the media won’t blame the GOP but it will be difficult for them to do it with a straight face.
Of course he’ll finally cave. That’s “his part” ultimately - caving.
I think he should change his name to Donner in light of his record as Speaker of the House. In fact, they could change the name of the Republican Party to the Donner Party.
“The Senate will do nothing and the President will blame the Congress which the media will blame the Republicans in the House.”
Republicans get the blame anyway. Now would be a good time to run ads blaming the Democrats and the media for why everyone’s taxes are going up Jan 1.
I would go so far as to informercial it.
Is that supposed to be secret info he’s revealing?? It’s a roll call vote, I think we’ll know which members are in favor of huge tax increases quite well, they’ll be the ones who vote against the bill.
It is you who is very short-sighted.
The same law that enacted these tax increases, can be changed
It is a meaningless vote that will not serve the GOP members.
It has no chance of passing. And because Bonehead has been so
out front working a deal with him self, he HAS BECOME the face of
this cliff. He and the GOP will get the blame regardless of what happens.
Then let Reid pass his own bill and send it to Congress. When will Garry Reid get off his a$$?
The stock market is up again today. Maybe going over the cliff is not such a bad thing. I am not an expert and I don’t know why the market goes up or down. I keep hearing experts say that if we go over the cliff the stock market will crater, but that is not happening.